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A reliable source has informed me that Germany payed to the Jews because it chose to pay. Would Turkey choose to pay to the Armenians?
If the Armenian Genocide is recognized by Turkey and reparations are payed to Armenians, others such as the Greeks and Assyrians will also want to get a piece of the pie. It wouldn't be fair if they (especially the Assyrians) are ignored in all this.
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Originally posted by MurtazaSip you killed my father, will you take me court?this post = teh win.
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Originally posted by loseyournameExtend that to its logical end. Can we really give all land back to its original inhabitants? What would that accomplish?
You'd be displacing people that did nothing wrong simply because their forefathers did.
What if we uprooted everyone in North and South America other than descendants of natives and sent them back to Europe? Would that really be fair? Where would all of you Diaspora Armenians go?Last edited by UFraidees; 08-02-2005, 12:13 PM.A coward dies a thousand deaths, a hero dies but once
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Originally posted by loseyournameExtend that to its logical end. Can we really give all land back to its original inhabitants? What would that accomplish? You'd be displacing people that did nothing wrong simply because their forefathers did. What if we uprooted everyone in North and South America other than descendants of natives and sent them back to Europe? Would that really be fair? Where would all of you Diaspora Armenians go?
Look, sometimes you have to use some logic before making a statement and take all things into consideration instead of oversimplifyings things just to make things easy or for the sake of expediency. Let's take North America for example. In my opinion, I think that the Native Americans should at the very least be given title and ownership of all the lands that belong to them by treaty that were not honored and if there are any white people that live there (if they decide to stay rather than move to US owned territory) should be paying their taxes to the Native Americans and not to the US government, plus all the natural resources on all those lands would belong to the Native Americans. I think that is very fair. I live in North America and I have never felt that this is my land and I have always felt that it belongs to Native Americans and I am only a guest. In the same way, the Treaty of Sevres should be respected and the outlined territory should be handed over to the Armenians. The Turks would still have plenty of land and they can relocate if they wish or they could stay and pay their taxes to the righful owners of that land etc and I think that's more than fair. However, Turkey will have to pay reperations/compensation to the Armenians and there's no two ways about that. With the reperations, Armenians can recbuild their country and people would be flocking there instead of leaving because there is no future in a tiny land locked country with no prospect of any real future.
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Originally posted by DaveA reliable source has informed me that Germany payed to the Jews because it chose to pay. Would Turkey choose to pay to the Armenians?
If the Armenian Genocide is recognized by Turkey and reparations are payed to Armenians, others such as the Greeks and Assyrians will also want to get a piece of the pie. It wouldn't be fair if they (especially the Assyrians) are ignored in all this.
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Originally posted by DaveThe court would not work simply because the Young Turks and the Ottoman Empire don't exist today.
But if Turkey can get away with it that easily, another question arises: Why does Turkey still spend millions in denying the Genocide?[/QUOTE]
They're not the only one spending those millions. Anyway, who do you think is taking those millions to do the all the denying for them?
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Originally posted by UFraideesJustice, right? I believe the memory of one's native land and their ancestors is within each and every individual's genes.
So, OK, let some guy come into your house, kill you and all of your family except for one child. Then say that the killer takes the house, keeps it forever and passes it on to his heirs who had no part in the original crim. So, your child has NO rights to that house. Do I understand you correctly?
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The problem then becomes up to how far back in history do we go to reverse/compensate for aquisitions, territorial expansions, wars, pillaging, etc? And I don't just mean Armenians ... and I also don't mean to imply that anyone is entitled to go take what belongs to another.this post = teh win.
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Originally posted by loseyournameArmenians have every right to live in Turkey. If you had ancestors that lived on certain land there, and you want to return, do so.
BTW, did you delete that thread about the Times DVD?"that was the renegade Hebrew (donmeh) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the massacres and deportations," Rafael De Nogales. Four Years Beneath the Crescent. 1926. p.27
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