Ottoman Armenians in the Collapse PEriod of the Empire...

[bell-the-cat]

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[Fadix3]

Fadix, it seems that you have another interesting example like winoman. Winoman seems like a person that have an ultra self confidence about Turkish-Armenian debates that nobody can convince that he makes stupid comments.
And as I understood you consider yourself some kind of historian that has an ultra self confidence that nobody seems to convince you about how stupid and childish "knowledge" you have about history.
You two really entertain me more than others.

Show me where your argument is so that I can answer to it. Thanks.

[cumanicus]

Show me where your argument is so that I can answer to it. Thanks.

Another funny self-confidence example, but bad news my friend, your history knowledge is very narrow, inaccurate, paranoid and childish. It seems that you read much popular history books about conspiracy theories like winoman. You can not seen as intellectual with those books, sorry.
You asked what argument? You said only 2 things and two of them are examples of ignorance about history.
1. Turkey would invade Soviet Union at WW2
2. Turkey would invade Armenia at 1993.
Just funny and childish, what can I say more?
PS: Don't find popular paranoid conspiracy theories from google and show me as evidence, try to find serious things, ok?

[Fadix3]

Another funny self-confidence example, but bad news my friend, your history knowledge is very narrow, inaccurate, paranoid and childish. It seems that you read much popular history books about conspiracy theories like winoman. You can not seen as intellectual with those books, sorry.
You asked what argument? You said only 2 things and two of them are examples of ignorance about history.
1. Turkey would invade Soviet Union at WW2
2. Turkey would invade Armenia at 1993.
Just funny and childish, what can I say more?
PS: Don't find popular paranoid conspiracy theories from google and show me as evidence, try to find serious things, ok?

Throw your words elsewhere, you won't fool me by pretending that you are saying anything. Oh and, I never even raised Armenian (1993,) newer medications exists to treat hallucinations, even in the absence of delusions with fewer extrapyramidal side effects.

Lastly, google as sole sources, is proper to ignorants like you, and given that I have access to various databases from my institutions proxy, I almost forget its(google) existance.

Go try your child and childish characterization tactic in a platform that fit your intellect.

[cumanicus]

Throw your words elsewhere, you won't fool me by pretending that you are saying anything. Oh and, I never even raised Armenian (1993,) newer medications exists to treat hallucinations, even in the absence of delusions with fewer extrapyramidal side effects.

Lastly, google as sole sources, is proper to ignorants like you, and given that I have access to various databases from my institutions proxy, I almost forget its(google) existance.

Go try your child and childish characterization tactic in a platform that fit your intellect.

Same childish self-confidence, very good Fadix, only one thing is missing: knowledge. Can you give me an example of your "claims" from your "various databases" that make me stop fool you and take you serious?

[Fadix3]

You are opening the Pandora box idiot.

Turkism and the Soviets by Charles W. Hostler, Praeger, London 1957. The book had various editions, including one published in New-York.

It includes a report by Franz von Papen, the German Ambassador in Ankara, dated August 5, 1941, about the Turkish plans of invasion from the East as far as Baku.

This possible alliance even left Hitler wish until the end. Ulrich Von Hassell in his diary confirms this wish of Hitler (The Von Hassell Diaries, 1938-1944: The Story of the Forces against Hitler inside Germany by Ulrich Von Hassell, Doubleday, 1947 p. 206)

A possible upcoming alliance was even feared back in May 10, 1934, student associations were distributing Swastikas at university levels in Turkey. Later, German officials in the guise of assistant professors, accompanied their colleagues in the Tukish army, with the purposes of making the promotion of Nazism(All this confirmed by Dr. Ayhan Aktar in his work, Varlik Vergisi ve 'Türklestirme' Politikalari. (The Capital Tax and and the politics of Turkification), Iletisim Publishers, Istanbul, 2000)

Why do you even think of the reason why Turkey signed the famous Treaty with Germany, and this JUST THREE DAYS before NAZI Germany attacked the Soviet Union? Why do you even think that it was the NAZI government that returned the ashes of Talaat Pasha?

Does the idiot you are, want to open the Pandora box? Those you socialize with on other forums may only be full of hut air, but not I, don’t believe that others are your reflection.

Now, if you don’t mind, I will stop taking you seriously, until you start playing with your own poop and open in the same time the Pandora Box, and believe me, this won’t benefit you at all. Like I repeated many times, I don’t fight when the adversary is already on the floor.

By the way, stop overusing the word childish, since you are making too obvious that its uses is a defense mechanism.

[cumanicus]

You are opening the Pandora box idiot.

Turkism and the Soviets by Charles W. Hostler, Praeger, London 1957. The book had various editions, including one published in New-York.

It includes a report by Franz von Papen, the German Ambassador in Ankara, dated August 5, 1941, about the Turkish plans of invasion from the East as far as Baku.

This possible alliance even left Hitler wish until the end. Ulrich Von Hassell in his diary confirms this wish of Hitler (The Von Hassell Diaries, 1938-1944: The Story of the Forces against Hitler inside Germany by Ulrich Von Hassell, Doubleday, 1947 p. 206)

A possible upcoming alliance was even feared back in May 10, 1934, student associations were distributing Swastikas at university levels in Turkey. Later, German officials in the guise of assistant professors, accompanied their colleagues in the Tukish army, with the purposes of making the promotion of Nazism(All this confirmed by Dr. Ayhan Aktar in his work, Varlik Vergisi ve 'Türklestirme' Politikalari. (The Capital Tax and and the politics of Turkification), Iletisim Publishers, Istanbul, 2000)

Why do you even think of the reason why Turkey signed the famous Treaty with Germany, and this JUST THREE DAYS before NAZI Germany attacked the Soviet Union? Why do you even think that it was the NAZI government that returned the ashes of Talaat Pasha?

Does the idiot you are, want to open the Pandora box? Those you socialize with on other forums may only be full of hut air, but not I, don’t believe that others are your reflection.

Now, if you don’t mind, I will stop taking you seriously, until you start playing with your own poop and open in the same time the Pandora Box, and believe me, this won’t benefit you at all. Like I repeated many times, I don’t fight when the adversary is already on the floor.

By the way, stop overusing the word childish, since you are making too obvious that its uses is a defense mechanism.

After this post may I use the term freak instead of childish?
It seems that you concern too much about everything related Turks and Turkish history, but your problem is trying to find popular books that match with your paranoias. You can find a lot of books that claim a lot of conspiracy theories. If those popular stupid things entertain you go on, but don't expect to be taken as seriously. What kind of answer do you expect I don't know. You give the name of a book that claim a conspiracy theory and sunndenly this makes you a serious historian isntead of a childih boy? So why don't you ask yourself that your conspiracy theory is not stated as main serious history books or encyclopedias about WW2? If I would not know about WW2 your "childish" self confidence make me believe to your conspiracies because you really behave like a freak by obsessing conspiracies about Turks to support your claims. What kind of answer do you expect from me for this nonsense claim? Every serious WW2 historian claims that Turkey did its best to keep its neutrality at WW2 even against Hitler's threats. Turkish xxxs left Istanbul and escape to Anatolia for a possible German invasion, Turkish army put all of its military defense to Thrace agaisnt Germans not to Caucasia. All history books write these things but an obsessive freak suddeny find a conspiracy book and claim that "Oh Turks were ally with Nazis and preparing to invade Russia" to label Turks because of his/her obsession of Turkish hatred. How can you expect to be considered as serious person with those paranoid claims? Do you think that all WW2 experts are wrong and you are right because you have unlimited time to read popular conspiracy books and create "theories"?

[cumanicus]

How can you expect that 1940's poor Turkey can prepare to invade the Soviet superpower?
And finally how can you expect a respect since you still use the name of a respectful nation, J*ws as an insult and cencor it?

[cumanicus]

CIA made 9/11, J*ws rule the world, Turks would invade Armenia, Azeris massacred their own people at Khocali,...
You really entertain me.

[cumanicus]

Anyway, I am sleeping. I don't have that much time to spend like you to obsess with another nation.
Bye...