What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

[ARK]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

I think some of armenians comments justify that:turkish nation is the most noble community in the world,its not possible for such nation to commit genocide

Thank youu so much Emre, i hadn't been laughing for a long time like this!

[ARK]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

I think some of armenians comments justify that:turkish nation is the most noble community in the world,its not possible for such nation to commit genocide

Thank you so much Emre, i hadn't been laughing for a long time like this!

[platana]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

Savage Turks ha! you re very kind man

Yeah my savage turk! But I’m a kind girl, I’m not a man.

are you servants of Iran now?, as you were servants of France in 1915.

You don’t understand the BIG nuance between being a servant and being friends! Why? cos you r a turk so no wonder!

you should get ride

I sometimes get rides, have u ever?


You are just beating about the bush, but it appears so normal to me, Why? Cos u r a turk and like most of your brothers,not able to give a reasoning.

Oh sorry babe...
you are friends of Iran? Oh God! it is very bad situation for Iran, after 80 years later, you may claim that Iran massacred numerous armenians
but first you should betray Iran as you did to turks 90 years ago after having lived together 600 years,couse you re very good at this job (not all of armenians)

Im sure when USA recognise so called genocide, bush will be the best friend of you, anyway imperialist countries have been the best friend of you for 90 years, they are always lying you and you believe that. armanians had been claiming that 300.000 armenians were massacred about 50 years ago, then they claimed 700.000 massacred armenians and for almost 20 years, they have been claiming 1,5 million massacred armenians, Oh I cant estimate next 20 years 3 million? Hmmm.. yes it is a good number
I said, The capitalist world (your friends) used of armenians in 1915,france gave you a hope and in south of Türkiye some armenians (not all of armenians) battled with their neighbours with whom they lived for 600 years and while battling, they wore the military uniforms all of which were given by france to armenians so that these armenians died for the sake of or... instead of your friends;france soldiers. It is really very tragic situation. And yes turks are savage, cause they were betrayed by armenians they defend their home against not only to russia,great britain,italy,france,greece.but also against to some traitors at home
think of it babe if you can...

[platana]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

Are you kidding me? You forgot about the Hamidian massacres so soon?

You always say the same things! I wrote you historical truths and you just talking about hamidian lie, I suppose that you must be an expert but an expert on producing baseless allegations ,you always produce and just produce...
Can you tell me why does a nation betray its neighbour with whom they had lived 600 years and why does a government which battles in 5 side for its freedom and try to defend its home against to 5 powerful imperialist countries, massacre 1,5 million people and how can this government kill these numerous people systemetically while trying to save its borders ? think more realistic or logical ... please

[ARK]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

Oh sorry babe...
you are friends of Iran? Oh God! it is very bad situation for Iran, after 80 years later, you may claim that Iran massacred numerous armenians
but first you should betray Iran as you did to turks 90 years ago after having lived together 600 years,couse you re very good at this job

Again u don’t get the meaning of being friends. our friendship with them dates back to so long ago, but r u jealous of that? The sad news is not for iran or Armenia the sad news is for Turkey who sees Iran as an obstacle to its pan-turkist projects.
I wonder if your daddy or grandpa told u that we were living together? No Platana we were not living together, Armenians were living on their own land (western Armenia) and the rest of the population in that area was a minority. Your daddy is lying to you!


Im sure when USA recognise so called genocide, bush will be the best friend of you


So what? U expect us to fight people who recognize the Genocide? Anyway,Bush is not gonna recognize the Genocide so that’s out of question.


Go and expand your historical knowledge with the help of some reliable sources then we might discuss the issue, u r writing nonsense, I know well that changing the subject is a specific Turkish talent , but Armenians get that soon, so try to use another trick maybe u’d succeed.

[platana]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

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Again u don’t get the meaning of being friends. our friendship with them dates back to so long ago, but r u jealous of that? The sad news is not for iran or Armenia the sad news is for Turkey who sees Iran as an obstacle to its pan-turkist projects.

I'm julious of what??? Oh I hadn't laughed for a long time like this,thanks a lot
pan-turkist project? please... I begin to think that you are a paranoiac.I've never heard such a nonsense thing, country trying to enter EU and has a pan-turkist project? Anyway, if turkey wanted that, Of course Iran couldn't be an obstacle for Türkiye, couse 40 per cent of Iran population is Azeri-turks,it could be very easy Cant you consider this? please dont tire me such a nonsense thing! if you claim something,first you should think about it please you think very
simple.

I wonder if your daddy or grandpa told u that we were living together? No Platana we were not living together, Armenians were living on their own land (western Armenia) and the rest of the population in that area was a minority. Your daddy is lying to you!.

Firstly, my daddy is from Italy but my mother is turk, and I don't claim anything , Im talking about history,How could these armanians have so called their own lands in the Ottoman Empire for 600 years, we are talking about an Empire which has land in 3 continents and how they had lived without interacted with turks for such a long time, 600 years (six hundred years)! are u kidding me?.of course they lived together.Anyway, there are still thousands of armenians in türkiye,even fameous armenians such as Ara GÜLER who is the most fameous photographer in Turkiye and also Cem KARACA who is one of the most popular rock singer,Garo MAFYAN a musician... and they are people of armenian origin and citizens of Turkiye, there are thousands of armenians in Türkiye, they live together with turks as in the past,you cant change these realities, at least when you claim something,first you should think about it please...

Go and expand your historical knowledge with the help of some reliable sources then we might discuss the issue, u r writing nonsense, I know well that changing the subject is a specific Turkish talent , but Armenians get that soon, so try to use another trick maybe u’d succeed.

As I said,Im talking about evidences, so I dont need to expand my historical knowledge, I would want to mention about ur knowladge about history, but you say lots of baseless and ridiculous things as a child.at least when I say somthing, I show you some reasons,but u only claim and thats all. How will u deny these thousands of armenians in Turkiye, maybe they fell down from the sky
Are these not reliable sources? turks and armenians have lived so far and they will..., you wont be able to change these realities....

[TomServo]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

Why are you here platana? Are you obsessed with Armenians?

[Anonymouse]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

You always say the same things! I wrote you historical truths and you just talking about hamidian lie, I suppose that you must be an expert but an expert on producing baseless allegations ,you always produce and just produce...

Wow! Isn't that convenient. So what you write is a historical truth but what the other side writes is "lies", right? I guess you have everything figured out huh? So then why are you here? You don't want to be here since you clearly have figured everything out. I suggest you leave.

Can you tell me why does a nation betray its neighbour with whom they had lived 600 years and why does a government which battles in 5 side for its freedom and try to defend its home against to 5 powerful imperialist countries, massacre 1,5 million people and how can this government kill these numerous people systemetically while trying to save its borders ? think more realistic or logical ... please

Lived with for 600 years? It's more like you forced your way. No one was crazy about you moving there in the first place. But fine, that happened, but then you got into a series of genocidal behaviors, you have the nerve to speak about betrayal when Armenians do defend themselves?

The fact of the matter is, you, like most Turks, are not ready to engage in a actual discussion. You come here with pre-programmed ammunition to spew and you expect a dialogue? It's a case of "What I say is truth there is no point in engaging in dialogue". The only one that has regurgitated and spewed the same thing over and over is you, yet like a typical Turk, you have the gall to sit there and change face and accuse the other side. There is no point in these sorts of discussions. I'm the first to support freedom of speech and academic discussions regarding the historicity of anything, whether it is the Genocide, or Holocaust, but before that can take place, there must be a modicum of intellect and questioning.

You have still fallen silent on why it is a crime in Turkey to speak Genocide, why intellectual freedom is not allowed, why the archives are not openned to international scholars, and I have repeatedly asked for you to verify those vague 'studies' you have been referring to, only to get nothing but silence and your same claims of "think more realistic or logical".

[platana]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

why the archives are not openned to international scholars.

Oh God, you still say the same things, I showed you formal declaration of Türkiye in 2005,if any scientist from America,England,Italy...aren't allowed to see archives for 2 years, why no one say somthing. Do you know formal mean in international relations?, Türkiye declared opening archives in 11 march 2005 formally, how many times I say this and you refuse, you only refuse! ,are u blind?

You have still fallen silent on why it is a crime in Turkey to speak Genocide.

Do you want to see crime?

DATE CITY / DUTY - Name and Surname

27.01.1973 Santa Barbara / Consul General - Mehmet BAYDAR
Santa Barbara / Consul - Bahadır DEMİR
22.10.1975 Vienna / Ambassador - Daniş TUNALIGİL
24.10.1975 Paris / Ambassador - İsmail EREZ
Paris / Driver - Talip YENER
16.02.1976 Beirut / First Secretary - Oktar CİRİT

09.06.1977 Vatican City / Ambassador - Taha CARIM
02.06.1978 Madrid / Ambassador’s wife - Necla KUNERALP
Madrid / Retired Ambassador - Beşir BALCIOĞLU
12.10.1979 The Hague / Ambassador’s son - Ahmet BENLER
22.12.1979 Paris / Tourism Counsellor - Yılmaz ÇOLPAN
31.07.1980 Athens / Administrative Attache - Galip ÖZMEN
Athens / Administrative Attaché’s daughter- Neslihan ÖZMEN
17.12.1980 Sydney / Consul General - Şarık ARIYAK
Sydney / Security Attaché - Engin SEVER

04.03.1981 Paris / Counsellor for Labour Affairs - Reşat MORALI
Paris / Counsellor for Religious Affairs - Tecelli ARI
09.06.1981 Geneva / Secretary - M.Savaş YERGÜZ
24.09.1981 Paris / Security Attaché - Cemal ÖZEN
28.01.1982 Los Angeles / Consul General - Kemal ARIKAN
08.04.1982 Ottawa / Counsellor for Commercial Affairs - Kani GÜNGÖR
04.05.1982 Boston / Honorary Consul General - Orhan GÜNDÜZ
07.06.1982 Lisbon / Administrative Attaché - Erkut AKBAY
27.08.1982 Ottawa /Colonel, Military Attaché- Atilla ALTIKAT
09.09.1982 Bourgas / Administrative Attaché - Bora SÜELKAN
08.01.1983 Lisbon / Administrative Attaché’s wife, wounded in the armed assault directed against her husband Erkut Akbay on 07 06 1982, died on 08 01 1983 Nadide AKBAY
09.03.1983 Belgrade / Ambassador - Galip BALKAR
14.07.1983 Brussels / Administrative Attaché - Dursun AKSOY
27.07.1983 Lisbon / Counsellor’s wife - Cahide MIHÇIOĞLU
28.04.1984 Teheran / Secretary’s wife - Işık YÖNDER
20.06.1984 Vienna / Attaché for Labour Affairs - Erdoğan ÖZEN
19.11.1984 Vienna / International Official - Enver ERGUN
07.10.1991 Athens / Press Attaché - Çetin GÖRGÜ
11.12.1993 Baghdad / Administrative Attaché - Çağlar YÜCEL
04.07.1994 Athens / Embassy Counsellor - Haluk SİPAHİOĞLU

Oh armenians are very innocent everytime,they are always victim, aren't they?Oh yes turks are savage.

Lived with for 600 years? It's more like you forced your way. No one was crazy about you moving there in the first place. But fine, that happened, but then you got into a series of genocidal behaviors, you have the nerve to speak about betrayal when Armenians do defend themselves?

Yes!after lived 600 years, turks said themselves"why dont we get into genocidal behaviors after a long time"
I dont say none of the armenian in Türkiye were killed, of course during the war thousands of them died,maybe they were innocent but a lot of innocent turks died,too.It was a war,I refuse only that naming these event as a "genocide" and exagerrating the number of these armenians such as 1,5 million armenian. Genocide means massacring a race or a nation systematically as a whole and it is irrelevant to the case .Sometimes I think that There are very few nations that can inflict such damage on themselves
You see the people having died in a war as a genocide,you re talking nonsense...

[ArmenianKid]

Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

during the late 1800s various boston and new york newspapers printed over 600 stories about massacres and genocidal acts in the ottoman empire.
Then the word holocaust was used for the first time to describe what the turks were doing.

If we armenians are lying, thank god our friends we never talked to hundreds of thousands of miles away were in on the lie to!