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  • #31
    Re: Turk

    ARMENIANS ARE LYING
    The thesis that has been carried out for years by the Armenian Lobbies in the world about the genocide of Armenian people by Turks during the 1st World War is far away from reflecting the truth. The Armenian problem was brought to light by countries which aimed to realize their interests by disintegrating the Ottoman Empire and today it is artificial problem with its various aspects since the same interest circles want to reach their goals on Turkey and do not want a strong Turkey
    in region.
    Armenians lived their golden ages under the Ottoman rule till the end of 19th century by also benefiting from the tolerance of Turkish people. The Armenians who had been exempted from military service and partially from the taxes, got the opportunity to be promoted to the important missions in trade, handicraft, agriculture and administrative mechanisms. Armenians, who were assigned to Ottoman Ministry of Foreign Affairs that became vacant after the Greek rebellion, was named as "Milleti Sıdıka" (Royal Nation) because of their services for Ottoman Empire.
    In spite of the goal attitudes of Turks, Armenians, who began to struggle against Turks by allying with foreign states, started to show themselves as "oppressed society" and to claim that "Turks had usurped their sovereignty rights over Anatolia" for the purpose of getting the support of the West.
    The Armenian problem was put into agenda for the first time at the end of the Ottoman-Russian War dated 1877-1878. The Russians wanted the Ottomans to withdraw from the places they usurped, to give autonomy to the region or to accept the reform demand in favour of the Armenians. The Armenian Committees, who took courage from them, as a result of the provocations, rebelled several times primarily the Erzurum Rebellion in 1890 and then the Kumkapı Demonstration, city of Kayseri, city of Yozgat, city of Çorum and city of Merzifon Uprisal, Sason Rebellion, Bab-ı Ali Demonstration, city of Zeytun and city of Van Rebellion, Occupation of the Ottoman Bank, conspiracy attempt against Abdulhamit II (34th Ottoman Sultan) and Adana Rebellion in 1909. During these rebellions, in 1914 100 in Zeytun, in 1915 Van Uprisal 3000 and 1914 Muş Uprisal 20.000 Turkish people died as a result of the Armenian oppression. According to the Ottoman archives, 517.955 Turkish people were killed by Armenian Committees at the same term.
    The Armenians gave the biggest harm to Turkish people be the massacres they conducted during World War I. In this period, the Armenians carried out espionage activities on behalf of the Russians, deserted from military service without obeying the recruitment call-up made in accordance with the mobilization, and the ones, who were recruited, passed to the Russian side with their weapons and totally committed the "Betray to the Homeland" crime.
    In spite of all the good intentions of Ottoman Government, because of the increase of the Armenian uprisals and the Armenian attacks against Turkish women and children and since the army was in a war in lots of fronts, Armenian Committees were closed on 24 April 1915 and 2345 of its managers were arrested for "conducting activities against State". On 27 May 1915, the Ottoman Government passed the "Deportation Law" for the "transfer and settlement" of the people in the theater as well as the ones, who conducted espionage and betrayal activities against the Ottoman State, separately or altogether to the distant places from the theater. The people who were subject to Ordu-Kastamonu, Ankara-Niğde, Malatya-Maraş, Diyarbakır-Urfa-Adana and Syria-Iraq regions within the boundaries of the Empire and it can be proved by the documents that by October 1916 totally 702.900 people were migrated. Contrary to the claims of the Armenians, the killing of the 2-3 millions of people is not possible, because there had already been nearly 1.230.000 Armenians in the Ottoman State. Beyond this, is the Ottoman State wanted to get rid of its Armenian subjects, it could overcome this problem by assimilating them. But as it was explained, the Armenians had a better life in the Empire even than the Turks.
    Contrary to the claims of the Armenians, in the 1915 the implementation aimed at the Armenians in the Eastern Anatolia was only a migration activity to a different region within the Empire for the purpose of providing the security and it wasn't concerned with the genocide. So the alleged genocide claim is absolutely a fiction which depends on no document and evidence, is lack of a legal ground and constructed on the enmity against Turks.
    In fact the Armenians had to migrate for several times in the past because of their betrayals against the states where they lived.
    Another important aspect of the Armenian problem for Turkey is the sudden increase in terror activities in 70s with the support of Armenian Lobby and the killing of lots of Turkish diplomats by the Armenian organization ASALA.
    The Armenian Republic, which declared its independence on 23 September 1991, follows a policy to get a high amount of indemnity from Turkey, depending on the acceptance and registration of the genocide claims and at the final stage to establish the "Big Armenia" by providing the return of the alleged Armenian territory that is situated within the borders of Turkey according to their claims.
    The American Prof. Bernard Lewis and Prof. Stanford Shaw were exposed to intensive reaction of the Armenians because of their thesis regarding the genocide that it didn't reflect the truth. Also, Dr. Karakın Pastırmamacıyan have stated that nearly 15.000 Armenians living around Erzurum had left Turkey of their own free will, the Armenians were not a treatment like a genocide. In 1998 House of Lords of UK were exposed to question about the genocide and gave the following answer :"The Armenian genocide could not be proved".
    However, the best answer for the Armenian genocide was given by an Armenian. In the "Congress on the problems of World Armenians" held in 1982, the Armenian origined American Professor Hovannisian briefed the Armenian problem by saying "The Armenian problem could not be proved. The genocide is not valid legally and it is exposed to prescription". In short, there is no genocide implemented to Armenians by Turks and there has never been.

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    • #32
      Re: Turk

      [start quote]Armenians are lying. Blah blah blah. In short, there is no genocide implemented to Armenians by Turks.[end quote]

      Seems the only difference between the Turks we see on this forum is in their "blah blah blah" part. Heck I get spam messages with automatically generated texts that are more crative than this crap.
      Last edited by Sip; 10-25-2006, 08:11 AM.
      this post = teh win.

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      • #33
        Re: Turk

        Originally posted by Sip
        [start quote]Armenians are lying. Blah blah blah. In short, there is no genocide implemented to Armenians by Turks.[end quote]

        Seems the only difference between the Turks we see on this forum is in their "blah blah blah" part. Heck I get spam messages with automatically generated texts that are more crative than this crap.

        I don't know Sip, I'm beginning to agree with our friend Borat...or was it Mahir? about the so-called Armenians dying in the so-called Genocide.

        According to the Turks, there were just one million so-called Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, and half were women (we must also take into consideration that over a quarter were children and old people) so it makes perfect sense that these so-called Armenians killed 3 million Turks and Kurds and then killedl their own so-called selves. The so-called Armenians were in fact so-called Supermen.

        I'm now converted.

        "Peace at home, peace in the world".....gee, how profound

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        • #34
          Re: Turk

          The hardest thing to do in the world is to put something into turks' empty, not evolved heads...

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          • #35
            Re: Turk

            Armenians lived their golden ages under the Ottoman rule
            Armenians lived the Armenian golden age when there were no turds any where near the Armenian people.

            Hostile turd, friendly turd, I don't care! It doesn't change anything, go take care of your turdic "pride" and your turdic interests -- just no here. The past is a function of the future.

            Most you "vistors" say nothing new and nothing interesting. Here, just go read the first posts by "Armenian" these are especially good for our turd friends. Let them sink in and realize that we have nothing, nothing, nothing, to talk about.


            Just about the only turk here I can tolerate is Otto.

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