Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

[Sip]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

What has changed?

[MrLeftyHye]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

I have the same question as Sip
What has really chaged?

[Aurathen]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

We have democracy and a democratic basis on all all of the problems can be solved. Only those problems you tell us to exist cant be solved that easily because you have cosed your relations and will to listen to reason

[melikianAvak]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

Might have been debated, but I am still not convinced about the outcome of these debates, hence thats why it's new thread.

It was never debated, it is a historical fact that you and some Turks can't accept.

Begone trouble maker.

Can he and his kind be banned, it serves no purpose to allow them to carry on and on.

Bad enough that their kind murdered my family, now to listen to this is too much.

Avak

[MrLeftyHye]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

I dont know why people dont recognize it
There are so many historic facts that prove there was a Genocide.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

It was never debated, it is a historical fact that you and some Turks can't accept.

Begone trouble maker.

Can he and his kind be banned, it serves no purpose to allow them to carry on and on.

Bad enough that their kind murdered my family, now to listen to this is too much.

Avak

Honestly, what do you propose to achieve by banning him? Silencing disagreement and dissent? Their denial and non-recognition will continue to go on. The purpose of these forums is for discussion, for Armenians and Turks, for deniers as well. That is the way it goes. I'm sorry we cannot establish some sort of autocratic nationalist-communist-socialist-fascist superstate that controls every facet of our minds and lives and what people can or cannot say.

From what I could tell, our scimitar wielding foe hasn't done anything except deny the Genocide, which is part of the assumption of the risk of having this sub-forum open to discussion. If he starts to insult and mock, or break the rules, then he will go. I am against all laws which imprison, threaten, or fine people who express their views, and yes, even if it means people who deny the Genocide. By such moves and measures, we stoop only to their level and become no better.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

I dont know why people dont recognize it
There are so many historic facts that prove there was a Genocide.

Thats politics on the moment Turkey is a strong nation so people don't want to lose their friend ship with those bastards and so they forgot about 1915.
But their are nations like Rusia , Greece and France who want to see a weak Turkey and a strong Armenia let's now hope that the world will wake up and see what the Turks really are

[gmd]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

Thats politics on the moment Turkey is a strong nation so people don't want to lose their friend ship with those bastards and so they forgot about 1915.
But their are nations like Rusia , Greece and France who want to see a weak Turkey and a strong Armenia let's now hope that the world will wake up and see what the Turks really are

What makes you say that Russia or France want Armenia strong?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

What makes you say that Russia or France want Armenia strong?

In the first place they want a weak Turkey that makes Armenia a stronger nation
Second why would russia invest so many money in Armenia they need a strong ally in the area that they can trust and Russia can't trust Georgia or Azerbijdan so there only choise is a stronger Armenia or Turkey will become to strong and that's not in the intrest of Russia or Frence

[gmd]

Re: Did Armenian casualties amount to 1.5 million?

In the first place they want a weak Turkey that makes Armenia a stronger nation
Second why would russia invest so many money in Armenia they need a strong ally in the area that they can trust and Russia can't trust Georgia or Azerbijdan so there only choise is a stronger Armenia or Turkey will become to strong and that's not in the intrest of Russia or Frence

Maybe we have a different definition of strength. I was trying to understand your reasons/evidence that Russia or France really want Armenia strong. So far the evidence I see is that they do not want Armenia too weak. Maybe I do not have enough information or I interpret the evidence differently.