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Armenian Genocide Documents

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    Report on the massacre of Armenians in Cilicia under French administration. March 7, 1920.


    Decypher, Admiral de Robeck, (Constantinople),
    March 7th, 1920.
    D. 4.20. p.m. March 7th. 1920.
    R. 5.45. p.m. March 8th. 1920.
    No.200. (R).
    Following for Mr. Aneurin Williams M.P. is transmitted at request of W.A. Kennedy. Message begins.

    No. 5. Confirmation of news of Marash: 18,000 massacred in district: city burnt and without supplies and has not been relieved: 2,000 refugees have reached Adana: 13,000 women and children perished in snow-storm on way there: 8,000 Armenians still in Marash of whom many are wounded: Hadjia Zeitoun isolated: Adana, Tarsus not immediately threatened, but anxious and unsettled: no confidence of security in district. Message ends.

    I submit any appearance of official confirmation of this message should be guarded against. We have no information other than that already telegraphed. French, as previously stated, are very reticent but take the line that loss of life is to be ascribed to casualties incident to hostilities and subsequent withdrawal rather than to massacre.


    • #12
      General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.


      • #13
        [ These represent part of the "Transcript of his Highness Patishah's Extraordinary Courts-Martial Convened by Imperial Authorization, on 8 March 1335 (1919); and published in the Ottoman Official Gazette, "Takvimi Vekayi", on 27 April 1335 (1919). #3540 ]
        ~ The documents at hand [with the Courts-Martial] corroborate that the Central Committee of the Teskilalti Mahsousa [Special Organization -*formed for the deportation of the Armenians] was at the same time made up of two distinct organizations, of which one operated in accordance with the inner rules and bylaws of the Party [Ittihad ve Terakki = Committee of Union and Progress (C.U.P.)], while the other operated underground, on the basis of secret orders. The evidence, which confirms the culpability of the above mentioned [Sait Halim,*Enver, Talat, Cemal, Ibrahim, Sukru, Halil, Ahmed Nesimi, Midhat Sukru, Kemal, Ziya Gokalp, Doctor Ruzuhi, Kucuk Talat - some members of the Supreme Council of the Parliament,*others members of the Central Committee of the*C.U.P. - also Behaeddin Sakir, Doctor Nazim and Riza - leaders of the Teskilati Mahsousa - as well as Azis Bey and Cevat Bey] influential leaders of the Committee, attests* that the*Committee, its true face, be charged with the crimes of violation of public order, profiteering and for the perpetration of a series of massacres.
        ~ Party leaders ... endeavored to exploit Europe's preoccupation with the*World War, and attempted by the use of terror and brute force, to solve issues and*questions that could have otherwise been resolved peacefully, with fair and sound judgment. ... To realize their secret objectives, they encouraged, during military operations, the activities of secret committees. Thus, by releasing criminals and convicts from prisons, they created Teskilati Mahsousa, which received its secret orders and instructions from a Special Committee created in Istanbul.
        ~ Enormous sums of money were distributed to the agents of Teskilati Mahsousa and, generally, in the regions of their operation [mainly in the Eastern*vilayets (ancestral lands of the Armenians)]. Doctor Behaeddin*Sakir transmitted the cipher keys to the leaders of Teskilati Mahsousa, and provided them with automobiles, large sums of monies and other necessary ammunitions. By these means he was able to put into effect the secret plans of the Ittihad ve Terakki [Committee of Union and Progress].
        ~ Armed with instructions from the higher-ups, a number of operatives of this organization [Teskilati Mahsousa] were sent to the different regions; and together with the regional Responsible Secretaries of the Ittihad ve*Terakki, and government officials, they began, under the pretext of carrying out the orders of the*Party, or in response to the coercions of certain people, to indiscriminately massacre and rob the people, to raze their properties and to torture them to death... While the flash pint of terror was aimed mainly at the Armenians, other peoples (withing the*Empire) and a great number of Turks suffered also. [Reference is perhaps to those Turkish officials who were either dismissed or executed for refusing to implement the deportations and massacres.]
        ~ The key finding of this investigation shows that the criminal acts that took place at various times and in various places, during the deportations of the Armenians, were not isolated, local incidents, but were premeditated and realized by the oral instructions and secret orders of the*<Special Center>, which was composed of the united power of the above-mentioned individuals.
        *~ The nature of the Teskilati Mahsousa ... was, as the evidence clearly shows, especially secretive; and its real aim was to commit criminal acts. This secret network was led by Central Committee Members Doctor Nazim, Behaeddin Sakir, Atif,*Riza, and Aziz Bey. The headquarters of Behaeddin Sakir were in Erzurum [part of the Armenian Provinces], from where he directed the forces of the Eastern Vilayets.*Aziz, Atif and Nazim Beys*operated in Istanbul, and their decisions were approved and implemented by*Cevat Bey, the Military Governor of Istanbul.
        *~ The torturing and massacres in Diyarbakir [a city in the interior far away from any war zone] took place at the instigation of the fugitive [at the time of the trials in Germany] Talat Bey. This is confirmed by the contents of a cipher-telegram sent to*Talat Bey from*Ali Suad Bey, the mutasarrif of Der Zor. Ihsan*Bey, Director of the*Special Office of the Interior Ministry, confirms that Abdulahad Nuri Bey, Kaymakam of Kilis, who had been sent from Istanbul to take office in Aleppo, had announced that: "The main reason for the deportations is annihilation (of the Armenians)"; and that he had gotten in touch with Talat*Bey regarding this matter, and that he had received direct orders for the massacres from him; and that he (Talat) had persuaded him that*this was the only way for the salvation of the country [...].
        *~ In a September 15, 1331 (1915) cipher-telegram, sent by Resid to the Interior Ministry, it is mentioned that the number of Armenians being deported from Diyarbakir had reached 120,000 - which demonstrates the scope and meaning of the operation that had taken place.
        General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.


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          General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.


          • #15
            General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.


            • #16
              General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.


              • #17
                General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.


                • #18
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.


                  • #19
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.


                    • #20
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.