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Crimean Parliament Refused To Cancel The Decision To Recognize Armenian Genocide

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  • Crimean Parliament Refused To Cancel The Decision To Recognize Armenian Genocide

    CRIMEAN PARLIAMENT REFUSED TO CANCEL THE DECISION TO RECOGNIZE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

    Pan Armenian News

    Despite the pressure from official Kiev Crimean lawmakers stayed
    close to their principles.

    On June 22 the Supreme Council of Crimea again discussed the question
    of Armenian genocide in Ottoman Turkey. It should be reminded that on
    May 19 the Crimean parliament passed a resolution proclaiming April
    24 as the day to commemorate the victims of Armenian Genocide. Under
    the pressure from the outside the leadership of the legislative organ
    came up with an initiative to cancel the resolution. By the majority
    of votes the deputies rejected the proposal.

    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The bill on announcing April 24 the Memory Day of
    the victims of Armenian genocide was introduced by the deputy from the
    Congress of Russian communities of Crimea Sergey Shuvaynikov. 59 out
    of 62 deputies of the Crimean parliament voted for the bill. However,
    immediately after the voting the chairman of the Supreme Rada of the
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea Boris Deich announced that he would
    not sign the resolution since it could have undesirable political
    consequences and official Kiev started to openly put pressure upon
    the deputies. The foreign ministry of Ukraine gave to understand that
    they would make efforts to achieve cancellation of the decision of
    Crimean lawmakers at any price. Unable to bear the pressure, during
    the seating of the presidium of the Supreme Council deputy Shuvaynikov
    reluctantly suggested to make corrections in the document and to
    qualify the events of 1915 as "tragedy". By the majority of votes the
    presidium rejected the proposal and decided to leave the document
    as it is, without putting the issue of changing the formulation of
    the resolution on the agenda of the parliament. Nevertheless speaker
    Boris Deich did not give up the idea to achieve the inclusion of the
    issue on the agenda. He decided to pursue the initiative directly at
    the plenary session.

    In the case in question the head of the legislative organ of the
    autonomy realized the will of official Kiev that actively flirts
    with Baku opposing itself to Yerevan. Ukraine and Azerbaijan are
    partner countries in GUAM but allied obligations do not demand open
    neglection towards Armenia with which Ukraine has ancient historical
    connections. It is quite obvious that it was Ilham Aliev that persuaded
    Ukrainian leaders to put pressure on Crimea. During the meeting with
    the speaker of Supreme Rada of Ukraine Vladimir Litvin the President of
    Azerbaijan demanded to do everything possible to make Crimean lawmakers
    reconsider their decision concerning the recognition of Armenian
    genocide. Ankara on its turn also made use of diplomatic instruments,
    including even the resources of Crimean-Tatar community. Mejlis -
    the illegal "parliament" of Crimean Tatars spoke out against the
    resolution. The leaders of the Azerbaijan community of Kiev even
    started discussing the necessity of Ukrainian parliament to pass a
    bill, announcing the resolution invalid.

    Arguing the necessity of canceling the resolution, the speaker of the
    parliament Boris Deich mentioned that passing of the resolution had
    aroused dangerous international resonance. However the arguments of his
    opponents turned to be more persuasive. The pro-Armenian atmosphere in
    the Crimean parliament was formed yet when the vice-speaker of Supreme
    Council of the autonomy was Anushavan Danielyan - current Primer
    Minister of Nagorno-Karabakh. In his speech during the debates deputy
    Vladimir Kazarin said, "I don't understand what has the president of
    Azerbaijan to do with our decision". Kazarin reminded that Armenians
    have lived on the territory of Crimea for more than 1500 years. "They
    have had a tremendous input in the development of the peninsula. The
    history of Crimea is inseparably linked to the names of hundreds
    of outstanding Armenians who have become dear for Crimea", the
    deputy said. The head of the Crimean organization of the Republican
    party of Ukraine Alexander Gross also supported Kazarin and said,
    "No parliament in the world has ever cancelled passed resolutions
    for the commemoration of the victims of Armenian genocide. This can
    be a sad precedent. We have to account for our own decisions..."

    As a result, the initiative of the speaker was put to the vote and
    received only 13 votes. The issue is closed. From now on, every year
    on April 24 Crimea will officially commemorate the victims of Armenian
    genocide in Ottoman Turkey.

    25.06.2005, "PanARMENIAN Network" analytical department

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    Armenia Declines To Recognize Soviet-Era Genocide In Ukraine

    Armenia declined on Friday to lend support to Ukraine’s efforts at international recognition as genocide of a Soviet-engineered famine that killed millions of Ukrainians during the early 1930s.


    By Emil Danielyan

    Armenia declined on Friday to lend support to Ukraine’s efforts at international recognition as genocide of a Soviet-engineered famine that killed millions of Ukrainians during the early 1930s.

    Ukrainian Foreign Minister Borys Tarasiuk urged his counterparts from the Commonwealth of Independent States to include the issue on the agenda of their one-day meeting in Moscow. Only three of them, representing Azerbaijan, Georgia and Moldova, backed the proposal rejected by Russia and four other former Soviet republics.

    Reports from Moscow said Armenia as well as Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan abstained, helping Russia block the motion. Tarasiuk described the vote result as “deeply disappointing.”

    Up to 10 million people died in what the Ukrainians call Holodomor, or the Great Famine, in 1932-1933. Many historians believe that it was provoked by Soviet dictator Josef Stalin as part of his campaign to force peasants in the fertile republic to give up their land and join collective farms. Consequences of Stalin’s “collectivization” policy, which affected all parts of the Soviet Union, were particularly catastrophic in Ukraine.

    Among the countries that have recognized the Ukraine famine as genocide are the United States, Canada, Austria, Hungary and Lithuania. But Russia disagrees, saying that the famine affected all Soviet citizens. The Associated Press quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as speaking out against a “false politicization” of the issue.

    A statement on the meeting of the top CIS diplomats issued by the Armenian Foreign Ministry made no mention of the discussions on the Great Famine. Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian, who attended the meeting, is not known to have publicly commented on the sensitive subject.

    Oskanian’s refusal to back the Ukrainian initiative may raise questions about Yerevan’s own pursuit of international recognition of the 1915-1918 genocide of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey. Incidentally, Lavrov’s remark that the famine is a matter for historians and not politicians was reminiscent of arguments that are often made by Turkey and other nations denying the Armenian genocide.
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #3
      Politics...and we accuse other nations of heartlessness and worse....

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hovik
        59 out
        of 62 deputies of the Crimean parliament voted for the bill. However,
        immediately after the voting the chairman of the Supreme Rada of the
        Autonomous Republic of Crimea Boris Deich announced that he would
        not sign the resolution since it could have undesirable political
        consequences
        Who is Boris Deich ???

        " DEICH Boris Vice President of the Jewish Confederation of Ukraine"


        What a coincidence.

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        • #5
          Paybacks a xxxxx ,
          Too bad for Yuki's though
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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