Cultural Genocide

[TurQ]

Phantom

if the relations a bit normalized those heritage could be preserved with biliteral initiations.
Armenians lived as part of Ottoman society under caliphate, so those heritage again be preserved in a 99% country.

I personally am for preservation of all historical buildings, I am sure there are lots of people like me prefer those buildings at least be preserved as museum instead to leave them for their fate.

In one way you, I agree with you. But what if there are no Armenians left to attend the church, tend to the church, and keep the church in good condition? In that case, the alternative is that the church will be neglected and allowed to decay over time. I think in such a situation, it would be better to use the church as a mosque or cultural center, but retain its Armenian character and also make it clear that it was built by Armenians. That way the church remains in tact.

I know that the ideal situation is that the church is maintained as a church, but how realistic is that in a country that is 99.9% muslim?

Bell, the problem is that even when the Armenian churches are used as mosques or sports arenas or barns, there is no mention of them as having been built by Armenians; there is no mention of their historic and cultural value. Thus, as you know better than anyone else here, the manner in which they are used, they may as well be lost forever.

[bell-the-cat]

In one way you, I agree with you. But what if there are no Armenians left to attend the church, tend to the church, and keep the church in good condition? In that case, the alternative is that the church will be neglected and allowed to decay over time. I think in such a situation, it would be better to use the church as a mosque or cultural center, but retain its Armenian character and also make it clear that it was built by Armenians. That way the church remains in tact.

I know that the ideal situation is that the church is maintained as a church, but how realistic is that in a country that is 99.9% muslim?

Bell, the problem is that even when the Armenian churches are used as mosques or sports arenas or barns, there is no mention of them as having been built by Armenians; there is no mention of their historic and cultural value. Thus, as you know better than anyone else here, the manner in which they are used, they may as well be lost forever.

Thanks for understanding my point about preservation.

But, make it clear to who that they were built by Armenians? Everyone local will know what it originally was, even if there is not a sign outside it saying "former Armenian church". And nobody else will be deceived because the probablility will be that nobody else will ever look at it, except for the occasional informed (and probably Armenian) visitor. So even if (at this time in Turkey) public recognition of a buildings history is not given, it really won't make much difference.

[Gavur]

Azerbaijan Opposes Examination Of Old Jugha Cemetery By European Parliament Mission

Baku will give consent to the 10 member commission of the European Parliament to examine the site of ancient Armenian cemetery of Old Jugha, Nakhijevan, only on terms of conducting "two-sided examination", AzeriPress agency reports.

The president of the European Parliament has recently approved of the initiative to send a mission to survey the site of destruction of Armenian monuments. Azerbaijan voices dissatisfaction with the fact that the EP decided to entrust the mission to Armenia-EP interparliamentary committee instead of setting an ad hoc committee.

To date, the European delegation is due to arrive in the region on April 17-21.

By Aghavni Harutyunian

[bell-the-cat]

Who needs Azeris, when Armenians are capable of doing the destroying themselves.

http://www.hetq.am/eng/society/0604-tapan.html

The smashed-up medieval gravestones featured in this article probably were removed from an existing graveyard to make way for new graves.

[Gavur]

To me they look like neglected albanian headstones no?

[Reincarnated Am]

Who needs Azeris, when Armenians are capable of doing the destroying themselves.

http://www.hetq.am/eng/society/0604-tapan.html

The smashed-up medieval gravestones featured in this article probably were removed from an existing graveyard to make way for new graves.

Since it’s our heritage I think we have the freedom to decide which are more import and which are less important to us.

Are you comparing these…???

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To This..???

[1.5 million]

the problem is that even when the Armenian churches are used as mosques or sports arenas or barns, there is no mention of them as having been built by Armenians; there is no mention of their historic and cultural value. Thus, as you know better than anyone else here, the manner in which they are used, they may as well be lost forever.

I think there is value - potential - even if they are just left standing - no matter for what - as oposed to them being turned to rubble...who knows what may happen in time...

Somehow I feel that as time passes and no Armenian group(s) or academics step up and try to deal with the Turks to obtain access and perhaps aquire ownership or at least involvement in some type of preservation effort that we are passing by potential oppurtunities that may never come again (as domes and sanctuaries crumble and frescos fade etc). Of course even a few years ago it may have been hard to imagine that the Turks would allow such things - but I think anything might be possible if effort is made. I think the time is potentially right for some partnership - perhaps with some more enlightened Turks...those who have some understanding of the heritage which is now theirs to perserve...or to destroy...

[Tongue]

Seems like only "intellectual" step you can take is to "call them vomits"

Go back and read and see who called what vomit.. it certainly wasn't reincarnated mister.

Bell, I doubt you've done anything about the Julfa cemetery, simply because you don't seem to understand the issue and nor do you care - based on what you've posted in this thread alone.

Again, the destruction of any historical monument (of any national origin) is wrong and should be condemned, no matter how "useless" the monuments are... next thing you know, Armenians were never in Julfa, or any part of eastern Turkey!

[Gavur]

Photo Exhibition Dedicated to Armenian Monuments Opened in Washington

Photo Exhibition Dedicated to Armenian Monuments Opened in Washington
27.04.2006 00:30 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ A photo exhibition dedicated to the state of Armenian historical and cultural monuments in Turkey and Nakhichevan opened in the Armenian Embassy in Washington on April 24. Several dozens of photos testify of consistent destruction of Armenian churches and other historical monuments. The exhibition organized by an organization studying the Armenian architecture functions under the slogan “cultural genocide” and draws the attention of the international community to the necessity of protection of Armenian cultural and historical monuments.

Opening the exhibition RA Ambassador to the U.S. Tatul Margaryan highly assessed the activities of the Armenian architects and noted that it’s very important today to preserve the tradition of the Armenian architecture for the coming generations and raise the issue of barbarian destruction of the Armenian khachkars in Nakhichevan. The exhibition will function 10 days. It has already been attended by hundreds of Americans including officials, repohttp://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=17638rted the RA MFA press office.

[Gavur]

Armenian Monasteries In Iran

STATE PROGRAMS OF IRAN INVOLVE WORKS OF REPAIRING OF TWO ARMENIAN
MONASTERIES IN THAT COUNTRY


YEREVAN, MAY 12, NOYAN TAPAN. At the May 10 meeting with RA Minister
of Culture and Youth Issues Gevorg Gevorgian, Alireza Haghighean, the
Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the RA, expressed his
deep condolence on the occasion of the accident of the aircraft
implementing the Yerevan-Sochi flight. The Minister thanked for the
brotherly sympathy and mentioned that the two people support one
another and are united both at moments of sadness and happiness and
victories. An agreement was reached between the sides during the
meeting concerning 2006-2009 cooperation in the sphere of the cultural
heritage among the RA Ministry of Culture and Youth Isses and the IRI
Cultural Heritage and Tourism Organization. Deputy Minister Gagik
Gyurjian, thanking for the Iranian side's initiative for works of
reconstruction of the Armenian Surb Anna church in the Farsi state of
IRI, presented the Armenian initiative of the researching drafting
works for reconstruction works of the Persian mosque in Agarak.
G.Gyurjian also mentioned that drafts on reconstruction of the roof of
the Surb Tade monastery and the church tower of the Surb Stepanos
monastery complex have already been finished by Armenian
architectures, and the main restoration works are involved in the
state program of Iran.