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    Death camp visit shows the worst of humanity
    By Leonard Pitts Jr.

    The Miami Herald (Florida)
    August 15, 2005, Monday


    AUSCHWITZ, Poland _ Birds sing in the treetops of hell.

    It is a discovery you keep making, one that keeps taking you by
    surprise as you walk in Auschwitz-Birkenau, Belzec, Treblinka,
    Tykocin and other sad and solemn places where 6 million Jews were
    murdered in a bacchanal of cruelty that ended 60 years ago.

    Birdsong. You keep looking up, noticing it here as you never would
    elsewhere. You might call it a hope song, proof that life's circle
    will always, eventually, round the corner toward healing.

    But the hope song feels out of place. Like the neat lawns covering
    what once were fields of mud and excrement. Like the hotdog stand
    that sits near the front gate of Auschwitz. There is something
    jarring about birds singing in the trees that overlook these places,
    something incongruous about melodies of God in workshops of the
    devil. About life going on, stubbornly, regardless.

    This "interfaith pilgrimage" to Polish Holocaust sites has been
    organized by the Remember Committee, a project of the Charleston
    Jewish Federation of South Carolina _ one of several
    Holocaust-memorial European trips for Americans each year. The 25
    sojourners include teachers, a dentist, a lawyer, an insurance agent,
    and this Miami Herald reporter, an African American drawn here by a
    belief that there are connections between what happened to the Jews
    in Europe and what happened to the Africans in America, that they are
    but different manifestations of the same inhumanity.

    The central figure on the tour, though, is not the reporter, the
    dentist or the lawyer. It is the survivor. His name is Joe Engel, he
    is 77, and he spent two years on the verge of death.

    You wonder: Did birds sing in the trees when the train delivered him
    to Auschwitz in 1942? Did they sit warbling in the high branches as
    Josef Mengele, the infamous Nazi "doctor," flicked his thumb right or
    left, life or death, for the benumbed Jews who stood lined up for
    judgment? Did they fill the air with song as bigger, stronger boys
    were sent to die while Engel was sent to "live" in a charnel house
    where skeletons staggered about the business of dying and human
    remains drifted down in flakes from the crematorium chimneys like
    some evil snow?

    Or did even nature fall silent with awe?

    "Mengele was there," says Engel as the group enters Auschwitz. He is
    pointing to a spot near a metal archway with a sign that reads Arbeit
    Macht Frei. A lie no less cynical in German than in English. "Work
    Makes One Free."

    Of 2,000 new arrivals who came to Auschwitz that day, says Engel, the
    Nazis selected 200 to be housed at the camp. "The rest of them, they
    send them to the gas chambers. But in 1942, they didn't have no gas
    chambers then. So what they done, they dig ditches and they force the
    people to go into the ditches, with kids and everything else. They
    spread gasoline and they threw in some firebombs and that's the way
    they went to their deaths. You could smell the flesh."

    Walk on. Auschwitz is crowded today. Students on school trips,
    mostly. Then Engel stops and points to a black cinderblock wall in a
    courtyard between two of the two-story brick structures that housed
    the Jews. Flowers and candles hug its base.

    "Over here, this was the death wall," he says.

    Meaning the spot where Jews were summarily executed.

    "This was a high point of the day for the SS," adds Lara LeRoy,
    director of the Remember Committee of the Charleston Jewish
    Federation of South Carolina, which has organized this memorial trip.

    Engel nods. "This was fun for them," he says.

    Joe Engel is the kind of old man who routinely turns up in newspaper
    profiles as spry, meaning that he gets around well and doesn't
    fatigue easily. His English remains a work in progress, even after 50
    years in the United States. "German" is pronounced "JOY-man," "gas"
    comes out "guess."

    "You should know," he warns apologetically, "mine English a little
    .." Pause, rephrase. "Broken English, I was a professor," he says..

    He is an irrepressible man. Which makes it easy to forget that, even
    though it's been 60 years and this is his fifth return, it is hard
    for him to be in these places. Then you ask too probing a question
    and he looks away, toward the tower where the guards once stood.

    He says, "It's no picnic talking about it, you know?"

    But he does anyway. "It's all right," he reassures. "I don't mind. I
    want the people to know, especially the young people, to prevent
    another Holocaust. I don't care who, whatever you are, things like
    that should never happen.

    "We survivors thought, after the war, there's no more wars. That's
    the end of everything. But you can see now what's going on. People
    still killing people and everything. Things didn't change."

    Across a gravel path from him, school children on a field trip are
    crowding into one of the buildings. "Some of them don't believe,"
    says Engel. The memory of one in particular rankles him. "I was in a
    school and we talked about it and she rised up and she said, 'I don't
    believe you, what you said. How could one human do it to another one
    like this?' I said, 'You don't believe me? I take you to the place,
    so you can find out, you can see for your own eyes.' You couldn't
    convince her. You got people now said the Jews made it up."

    Auschwitz, where 1.2 million human beings were killed, is not just
    one place. There were dozens of sub-camps and three main camps. The
    first, called simply Auschwitz, could, if one were willing to
    overlook the guard towers and the barbed wire, pass for an Ivy League
    college campus, with its weathered brick buildings and lanes shaded
    by trees that were not there 60 years ago.

    The second main camp, a short bus ride away, is Auschwitz-Birkenau.
    It was the intake camp through which prisoners first passed. There is
    a shock of the familiar when you see it, because you've seen it
    before in movies _ "Schindler's List" and others. The barracks are
    long and low-slung and there's that iconic archway beneath the brick
    guard tower where train tracks enter the compound. Sixty years ago,
    they carried boxcars full of the doomed. You will not mistake this
    for a college campus.

    Where Auschwitz is a museum, its barracks plastered with historical
    pictures and artifacts on display, Auschwitz-Birkenau is history
    largely unadorned, unprettied, unfussed with. The Germans might have
    left just an hour ago. The barracks are dank and shadowed, the stone
    floors rough and uneven. The rubble of two crematoria sits as it has
    for six decades, one destroyed by the Jews in an act of rebellion,
    another by the Nazis in an act of cover-up.

    "Anybody who wasn't here can't believe what we went through inside,"
    he says. "You know a lot of books been written about it, a lot of
    movies been made about it, but nothing came close to what's been
    going on here in the death camp, Auschwitz-Birkenau. Maybe if I
    wouldn't be here, I wouldn't believe it myself. 'Ah, what human being
    can do it to another one for no reason?' The only guilt they had,
    because they were born Jews. This was the only guilt."

    A woman who is not with the pilgrimage group stands listening. There
    is horror on her face.

    "Every morning," says Engel, "you could see hundreds of skeletons.
    Not human beings, just skeletons. Bones. The only thing you saw was
    bones and a big nose. We used to pick 'em up and they used to take
    'em to the gas chambers over there."

    At this camp, as at almost every stop of the tour, LeRoy asks some
    member of the group do a reading _ a poem, an essay relating to the
    atrocity that happened on this spot. Then the Jews in the group say
    Kaddish, the Jewish prayer for the dead. In English, it says, in
    part:

    "Glorified and sanctified be God's great name throughout the world
    which He has created according to His will. May He establish His
    kingdom in your lifetime and during your days, and within the life of
    the entire House of Israel, speedily and soon; and say, Amen.

    You are struck that there is no lamentation in the ancient words.
    There is no woe or why. There is only praise.

    That night, after Sabbath dinner, you return to the Hotel Eden, off a
    cobblestone courtyard in Krakow. Tired and jetlagged, you read for a
    few minutes, then fall asleep.

    In the morning, when the group gathers, one of Joe's cousins nudges
    you and shows you pictures of what you missed. They are of Joe at a
    party, some street festival a few members of the group stumbled onto
    the night before. The music, you are told, was good, the wine flowed
    freely. Joe _ "I'm a professional bachelor," he likes to say _ is
    seen dancing with a stunning young blonde in one picture, sandwiched
    between her and her equally-attractive friend in another.

    It occurs to you that no one knows how to cherish life quite like the
    man who has felt the imminence of death. Six million people died in
    the Holocaust for being Jewish. Five million more for being
    homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, communists, or simply opponents of
    the Nazi regime.

    There is _ the word is unavoidably ironic _ something bloodless about
    the numbers, repeated now for six decades. There is something in them
    too large for minds and hearts to comprehend, too abstract to truly
    grasp.

    Roughly 3,000 people died in the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and it is
    remembered as one of the most traumatic days in American history.
    Eleven million people dead is a Sept. 11 attack every single day for
    10 years. It is New York City dead. And Washington, D.C., dead. And
    Atlanta dead. And Dallas dead. And Pittsburgh dead. And Miami dead.

    And not just dead. Nor even just murdered.

    Slaughtered. Butchered. That's what it was.

    A boy at Belzec who had sand pushed down his throat with sticks.
    Babies thrown from hospital windows in Lodz, and a young SS man
    making a game of how many "little Jews" he could catch on his
    bayonet. Women in Auschwitz subjected to an "experiment" in which a
    cement-like fluid was pumped into their uteruses. A woman in Przemysl
    whose baby was torn from her arms by an SS man who, according to a
    witness, "took the baby into his hands and tore him as one would tear
    a rag." And nameless millions suffocated standing up in train cars
    too crowded to allow corpses to fall, shot in the brain, tumbling
    into graves they themselves had dug, inhaling poison gas in dark
    stone rooms.

    This is how they died. Butchered. Slaughtered.

    Why? Someone once asked this of Mengele.

    "Here there is no why," he said.

    ___

    A klezmer band is playing in a restaurant on the Jewish quarter in
    Krakow, where members of the interfaith pilgrimage have just finished
    dinner. Several members of the group are engaged in a spirited debate
    over how the world should respond to genocide. Then the band goes
    into "Havah Nagilah," the celebration song that has become a Jewish
    folk standard, and Joe is up dancing with a woman from the group and
    even the debaters have to silence the debate and clap in time,
    because you can't not clap when "Havah Nagilah" plays.

    The old man dances as if his bones were made of joy.

    No member of the band playing the Jewish song is Jewish. That's
    because there are virtually no Jews left in Krakow. Even here, in the
    Jewish Quarter. The synagogues are maintained, but nobody worships in
    them. The ancient cemetery is open, but tourists far outnumber
    mourners. Before the war, there were 60,000 Jews here out of a
    population of 250,000. There are less than 200 now.

    Still, the old man dances to Jewish music in a place where all the
    Jews are gone. Where there is no rabbi. Where the last bar mitzvah
    was before the war.

    And you wonder: What is it that gets into human beings that makes
    them feel they have the right to deny or annihilate other human
    beings for the sin of difference? Slaughter the Jews because they're
    Jewish, enslave the Africans because they're African, murder the
    Armenians because they're Armenian, the Tutsis because they're
    Tutsis, the Kurds because they're Kurds, the Sudanese blacks because
    they're Sudanese blacks.

    Where does that come from? Why is the lesson never learned, even at
    the most ruinous cost?

    Graffito spotted on a wall in the Jewish quarter: Juden Raus. Jews
    Get Out.

    As Chris Huszczanowski, the group's guide, puts it, "The
    anti-Semitism in Poland is a very special one. The anti-Semitism
    without Jews."

    You question him, thinking something has gotten lost in his imperfect
    English. He repeats himself with emphasis. "Without Jews," he says.
    "Show me, visiting, traveling through Poland, small village,
    medium-sized city, a city without any synagogue, any shul there. They
    never seen Jew. But you have grafittis on the walls. Like Mogen
    David, the David Star, (intertwined with) the gallows."

    "Havah Nagilah" plays on. The old man dances on legs of abandon.

    Two days later at Majdanek, a death camp on the outskirts of the city
    of Lublin, 15-year-old Jan Rydzha, a high school student, pauses in
    his morning's labors to talk with a reporter. He and a group of his
    fellow students are engaged in a class project, using hoes and hands
    to clear the foundation of a barracks. Old wash basins and
    receptacles for human waste are taking shape, hacked out of the tall
    grass.

    The reporter has asked Rydzha whether young people here are really
    taught about the Holocaust. "In Poland, we have quite a full
    education about the Holocaust," he replies in flawless English. "Not
    only about the numbers and the statistics, but about generally the
    human tragedy that went with it."

    But Rydzha says he wonders sometimes if the message gets through to
    all those who visit Majdanek. "For example," he says, "in the
    barracks, you can actually find some graffiti and some text written
    in black marker on the bunk beds. To me, that's total disrespect and
    I just can't believe who would do that."

    Kasia Zych, who is 18, finds it hard to believe what happened in her
    hometown 60 years ago. "It's huge and enormous and it scares me."

    And to the people who say it didn't happen? The teenager with death
    camp soil on her hands says, "I think they should read more books and
    maybe even come here and see it with their own eyes. It happened.
    Happened. I think people who say Holocaust never happened are stupid.
    They have small intelligence."

    There is a display at Majdanek you would show such people if you
    could. It is not the gas chamber where live canisters of poison gas
    are still in storage. It is not the glass display case filled by toys
    stolen from dead children of long ago. No, it is the shoes.

    They fill Barracks 52, row upon row of them in cages made of chicken
    wire and wood. Close. Touchable. How far back does this barracks go?
    Fifty feet? Sixty? More? The shoes stretch virtually the entire
    distance.

    You start walking between rows of footwear piled taller than you are,
    passing by sandals and slippers and work shoes, black leather dusted
    gray by age and time. You move through a forest of things once worn
    by children and old men, women and girls, long ago, when they were
    living. The air is stale. There is no light beyond that from the sun
    which enters through the door in front. The shadows eat it greedily.
    It is silent in here, still but for the sound your feet make against
    the floorboards as you move further down the row, deeper into places
    where sunlight does not follow. Soon you cannot see. But you can
    feel. The weight of shoes piled high all around you. The accusation
    of their emptiness. A chill rises through you. You keep walking.

    It is like walking into death.

    ___

    "Before the war, was very bad for Jews," Joe Engel tells you. He is
    sitting in his bus seat, a few rows from the front. "The anti-Semite
    was very bad. Before the war, had the market, Tuesday and Fridays.
    Had people with signs, and they'd sit by the Jewish stores and they
    told them not to go into Jewish stores. I still remember they said in
    Polish, 'Don't buy from the Jew.'

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    "Listen, was very bad. Exactly like the Americans treated the colored
    people. Especially in Easter," he adds. "A Jew was scared to go out."

    He was 12 when the Nazis smashed across the Polish border. "When they
    came in, they destroyed the city, they made us wear a Star of David.
    You couldn't walk out on the sidewalk. You had to walk in middle of
    street. We had no place to live, so we decided to go to Warsaw."

    They walked for two days. Ended up spending a year in the Polish
    capital, living with family. "One room," says Joe. "At nighttime, the
    floor was not big enough for everybody to lie down in the same time.
    So we had to take turns lying down on the floor to sleep."

    By 1942, Joe had been deported to Auschwitz. He remembers it as a
    series of beatings. Beatings for not moving fast enough. Beatings for
    trading food. Beatings for entertainment.

    And that was hardly the worst of it. "When I came home from the day's
    work and they saw my bed, for some reason, wasn't made up like should
    be, and it was in the winter time, cold, they make me undress, naked,
    and they put me outside and they make me kneel and they took some ice
    water, cold water and pour all over you, till you got stiff, almost
    frozen to death. They took you inside again."

    Nor was that the worst of it. The worst of it, he will not speak.

    To this day, he is not sure why or how he was chosen to live. Nor why
    or how he did.

    "I've been asking a lot of people," he says. "I would ask the rabbis,
    all kinds of people, how come I survived and my parents didn't
    survive. How come you had people there, very religious, they never
    sinned in their life, even in the camp, they prayed and prayed, and
    after awhile, they sent them to the gas chambers for no reason. And
    everybody was expecting a miracle, a miracle from God, but the
    miracle never come.

    "For me, was a miracle. But for the rest of the 6 million Jews, was
    no miracle whatsoever."

    Joe Engel lived in Auschwitz for two years and four months. In
    January of 1945, with the Russian army closing in, the Nazis ran,
    sweeping before them 58,000 prisoners _ Engel among them _ in one
    last march. Most of the Jews were murdered en route. Engel survived
    to be herded onto a train. Destination: Germany.

    "Was cold," he says, "was open, no food, no water, nothing. And you
    could see peoples dying like flies from the cold weather, freezing to
    death. So I told myself, You know, when it's going to get dark, I'm
    going to take my life in my own hands. If I survive, it's OK. And if
    I don't survive, I don't have to suffer, you know what I mean? 'Cause
    suffering is more than anything else. The punishments they give you,
    it's worse than death.

    "So I said, the hell with it. As soon as it's going to get dark, I'm
    going to jump the train. So, was high snow. And soon as it got dark,
    I jumped. They stopped the train, they was looking, and I was under
    the snow. They had eight, 10 foot of snow. Luckily, they couldn't
    find me. I was under the snow till the train moved."

    He is tired of talking about it now, maybe tired of remembering. You
    thank him for his time. He falls silent and doesn't speak much for
    the rest of the drive. The miles grind away.

    But a few nights later, standing before the group at a restaurant in
    Warsaw, he returns to the story. It finds him on the run, hiding in a
    barn under a pile of hay.

    "The Germans came in with the bayonets. And they were lookin' for
    people. They sticked all over to find anyone. How many lives a cat
    got? Nine? I must've had 11. Luckily, they didn't find me. A couple
    hours later, I was still in the barn. The one side was the Russian
    army and the other side was the German army. And I was between. And I
    was laying in the barn. And the bullets fly in the barn. How lucky
    can a man be?"

    He lifts his glass, a toast. "So I hope, if we all get home, we going
    to spread the Holocaust, to make people know what the survivors went
    through, so their kids can live in freedom. They wouldn't have to
    worry for Holocaust. 'Cause we all one. If we cannot be one and
    looking out for one another, the world going to come to an end."

    He is looking at you. You try to tell yourself it's only your
    imagination. But the glance holds too long to be called fleeting. "So
    let's remember all the people," he says. "They sacrifice themselves
    so other people can live and tell the stories. So don't forget 'em.
    Like we was in Auschwitz, you don't think they were happy to see us
    there? I mean the dead ones. 'Cause anyplace you step, you find dead
    ones. You find blood underneath."

    The eyes are still on you. The gaze is steady and direct. "That's
    what it says: Don't you ever forget me, so long you gon' live. You
    tell this story for us, because we not here to tell this story."

    You nod and promise that you will. But in truth, it's a promise
    already made. You made it in a field of stones, in a dark place
    filled with empty shoes. And in a quiet clearing in the woods.

    ___

    There is in the region of Bialystok a village called Tykocin, a place
    to which Jews first came in 1522. By the end of the 19th century,
    three quarters of the population was Jewish. There are no Jews there
    now, but there remains an ancient synagogue. On its walls are words
    in Hebrew partially painted over by the Nazis six decades ago. An
    attempt to murder memory.

    You drive a couple miles out of town, down a narrow road. The bus
    stops and you climb off and walk down a trail into the Lupachowa
    forest. After a couple of minutes, you reach a clearing. There you
    find two monuments, clustered about with candles. Ahead of you and to
    the left and right, are three areas marked off by green fencing,
    waist high. These are the graves.

    On August 24th and 25th of 1941, 1,400 people _ all the Jews of
    Tykocin _ were marched to this place, lined up before open pits, and
    shot.

    Kaddish is said. Then Lara LeRoy asks if anyone in the group has
    words to offer from the Christian tradition. You struggle for
    something to say. But the mind quails, the moment passes, the people
    move on, each to their own thoughts.

    And then the song comes. It is an ancient melody that might be called
    the African-American kaddish, a song you often hear black people sing
    when pain is present and loss gouges the heart. You are not a singer,
    but you sing anyway.

    Precious Lord, take my hand,

    Lead me on, let me stand

    I am tired, I am weak, I am wan

    Through the storm, though the night

    Lead me on, to the light

    Take my hand, precious Lord

    Lead me home

    You walk about this killing place feeling them, the old men, the
    boys, the mothers with babies in arm. Look back down the path along
    which they walked to their deaths. Stand under this cathedral of
    trees where they stood, waiting for the gunshots.

    What did they say? What did they think? Was it here that a little
    girl pleaded for her life, promising "I won't be Jewish anymore?"
    Does it matter?

    You sing the African-American kaddish over and over. You can't stop
    yourself. The song won't leave you alone, but you don't mind. Because
    when you sing it, there is no woe or why. There is only that immense
    peace that comes from knowing God is nigh. The words lift from you
    like weight.

    When my way grows drear

    Precious Lord, linger near

    When my life is almost gone

    Hear my cry, hear my call

    Hold my hand, lest I fall

    Take my hand, precious Lord

    Lead me home

    A young woman from your group sits on the ground near one of the
    killing places, weeping in agony. You've never talked to her, don't
    know her name. You sit next to her, put an arm around her shoulder,
    say nothing. After a moment she leans against you, sobbing
    inconsolably.

    You hum "Precious Lord." The woods are still. Birdsong drifts down
    from the trees.

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      So what was the point of posting this article of absurdities? Just because there's one small line about Armenians (which I don't even agree with) you think it worthwhile to post jewish propaganda?

      it's nothing but a take-off on the jewish excuse that they were holocausted only because they were jews and pathetic really. The Armenians were not simply killed bacause they were Armenians. That's just a little line made up for simpletons. It's a line made up in order not to reveal the real reasons and the two cases are completely different from one another in ALL aspects.

      Your article claims that 6 million jews died, "6 million Jews were murdered", "Six million people died in the Holocaust for being Jewish.", yet in the same article we read that, "Auschwitz, where 1.2 million human beings were killed". Did you know the previously used official number of dead at Auschwitz was 4 million (as per the alleged Hoess confession, making up the larger portion of the 6 million) on a commemorative plaque, which has now been changed to slightly over one million? Ask yourself why that plaque at Auschwitz was changed and how is it that the 6 million has not.

      I certainly hope that you're not one of those people who still insist that 6 million jews were killed, because even the jews admit that it was not 6 million. They now accept that it was more like 4 million. And I don't want to be accused of minimizing anything, because the numbers speak for themselves. If you want to accuse anyone of minimizing, then I suggest you take it up with the directors of Auschwitz.

      Death camp visit shows the worst of humanity

      Slaughtered. Butchered. That's what it was.

      Babies thrown from hospital windows in Lodz, and a young SS man
      making a game of how many "little Jews" he could catch on his
      bayonet.

      This is how they died. Butchered. Slaughtered.
      Really? This is a really sick joke and I have answers to all of these absurdities, but I'll let them ride for now and I will answer to the one below.

      "And to the people who say it didn't happen? The teenager with death
      camp soil on her hands says, "I think they should read more books and
      maybe even come here and see it with their own eyes. It happened.
      Happened. I think people who say Holocaust never happened are stupid.
      They have small intelligence."
      This is just a stupid jewish lie and exaggeration. Although I personally refuse to accept the term "holocaust" and prefer they use "shoah" or whatever, which I can clearly and logically explain why. There in no one in the world that says "It did not happen". What people do is dispute some of the "facts" and rightly so, as in the case of the 4 million at Auschwitz, which was proven to be false. The ones with the small intelligence are the ones who believe that 6 minus 3, is still 6.
      [COLOR=Red][B]"That was the renegade Hebrew ([I]donmeh[/I]) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the massacres and deportations," Four Years Beneath the Crescent. Rafael De Nogales. P 26.[/B][/COLOR]

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        AUSCHWITZ was mearly a labor camp where communists and Jews were held. Many deaths occured within Auschwitz and there was a lot of brutality on the part of camp guards. However, no mass murder took place, and there is not one single evidence suggesting that people were gassed to death.

        Many of the things attributed to these "death Camps" were Soviet and American propaganda during the course of the Second World War. Germans simply could not "burn" hundreds of thousands, or millions, of Jews with fuel that they did not have. Most people fail to realize that Germans lost many battles after 1942 due to the lack or absence of fuel.

        The dead inmates, as seen within pictures of the camps upon their liberation by Americans and Russians, had died due to neglect, hunger and disease. And this came during a time in the war when Germans did not have enough food and fuel for their troops.

        As Nasty as many some hard core Nazis were, they paled in comparison to the savegry of Bolsheviks, Young Turks and Zionists.
        [B]A nation without Nationalism is like a body without a soul

        Garegin Njhdeh

        Those in possession of absolute power can not only prophesy and make their prophecies come true, but they can also lie and make their lies come true:

        Hoffer[/B]

        [B]Origins of Human Civilization Within the Armenian Highlands:[/B] [url]http://s4.invisionfree.com/Armenian_Diaspora/index.php?showtopic=199[/url]

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          I also wonder why most people fail to note that when the Germans were retreating from advancing Russian forces, as hard up as they were for food and fuel, they took their jews with them, rather than kill them and leave them behind or just leave them to their fate, whatever that might have been. Why did they go to all the trouble of taking them along? Thereby needing extra food and fuel...natually some died along with way, just like the Germans died along the way. Very strange considering the claims that they were supposed to want to do nothing but kill them.

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            Germany to Help Open Holocaust Records

            By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer
            13 minutes ago



            WASHINGTON - After decades of holding back, Germany took a major step Tuesday toward opening Nazi records on 17 million Jews, slave laborers and other Holocaust victims to historians and relatives long anxious for conclusive information about their fate.


            Germany pledged to work with the United States to ensure the opening of the archives, which are housed in the German town Bad Arolsen. Eleven nations oversee the 30 million to 50 million documents and are to meet in Luxembourg next month to consider amending a 1955 treaty that has, effectively, limited access and copying.

            "We still have negotiations to do," the American special envoy for Holocaust issues, Edward B. O'Donnell, said in an interview. "Our goal is to reach an agreement as soon as possible."

            Approval in Luxembourg would require agreement by all 11 countries. The parliaments of several of the countries would have to give their approval, as well.

            At a news conference Tuesday at the U.S. Holocaust Museum, German Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries said her country would work with the United States on opening the archives. Until now, Germany has resisted, citing privacy concerns.

            In Jerusalem, Holocaust specialist Shlomo Aharonson, a historian at Hebrew University, said, "They have shown good will but that doesn't mean the problem has been solved."

            Aharonson said the archives are supposed to contain all the names of those who died in World War II, both Jews and non-Jews.

            The announcement by Zypries culminated a 20-year effort by the Holocaust Museum, the United States, France, Poland and some other countries to pry the archives open.

            Negotiations intensified in the past four or five years and took on even greater momentum in the past two years, said Arthur Berger, spokesman for the museum.

            In a meeting Tuesday with museum director Sarah Bloomfield, Zypries said Germany had changed its position and would immediately seek revision of the accord governing the archives. The process should take no more than six months, the minister said.

            Opening the archives would enable many survivors and families of victims of the Nazis to find out with more certainty than ever before what happened to their relatives.

            "We are losing the survivors, and anti-Semitism is on the rise so this move could not be more timely," Bloomfield said in an interview.

            She said the move was "something of moral and historical importance in a critical time."

            "Overall, it makes it possible to learn a lot more about the fate of individuals and to learn a lot more about the Holocaust itself — concentration camps, deportations, slave-enforced labor and displaced persons," Paul Shapiro, director of the museum's center for advanced holocaust studies, said in a separate interview.

            Speaking in German, Zypries said, "We now agree to open the data in Bad Arolsen in Germany. We now assume the data will be safeguarded by those countries that copy the material and use it, and now that we have made this decision we want to move forward." Her remarks were translated into English for reporters.

            Germany's privacy law is one of the most restrictive among the 11 countries, Shapiro said. Remaining safeguards, he said, might limit duplicating a document or prevent using the name of someone cited without the person's permission, he said.

            Dissemination through the Internet also may be tightly restrained. However, privacy laws of the other countries will now prevail, he said. Most are less restrictive than Germany's.

            Bloomfield called the decision "a great step, a really important step." She said, "I will be completely thrilled when I get the material in the archives."

            For 60 years, the International Red Cross has used the archived documents to trace missing and dead Jews and forced laborers, who were systematically persecuted by Nazi Germany and its confederates across central and eastern Europe before and during World War II.

            But the archives have remained off-limits to historians and the public.

            International Red Cross Committee spokesman Antonella Notari said that body is not on the 11-member decision-making panel and is not against opening the archives, but believes personal information needs to be treated carefully. The international body opened its own archives a decade ago, she said.

            "It should definitely be open for historical research and there are ways to do that with respect for personal data," said Notari, chief spokeswoman of the ICRC in Geneva.

            Besides Germany and the United States, the other countries involved are Belgium, Britain, France, Greece, Israel, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Poland.
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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