Obama Recognizes Armenian Genocide

[Steph]

My point exactly. At least McCain doesn't lie. He tells you upfront that he won't recognize it, where as Obama is taking you for a gullible idiot by making empty promises, and you're proving him right by believing in them.

The safest way to consider politicians is that none of them are there for the people, only for themselves.
Regardless of political persuasion they have all got their snouts in the same trough.

BTW, I'm definitely in favour of the two party system, with the first one preferably on Friday night.

[Steph]

The Turkish truck driving companies transport mainly fuel (Jet A) from the Airbase to Iraq through the northern border. That is one of the three routes for US to bring supplies in and the Turkish route has been considered the safest even though a few Turks have been shot or kidnapped. No, there is no Truck route from Turkey to Afghanistan, I guess I should have been more specific but the Airbase itself is a key strategic point for the war efforts in that country. Without it would be very hard to support that war. Turkey was one of the first countries to jump on the Afghanistan war wagon in 2001. You can google both informations I provided.

So, Incirlik has no relevance to operations in Afghanistan or Pakistan....that's what I thought.

[Anomaly]

Anomaly, I wouldn’t be so fast on putting the blame on all the American people. This is same old tricks that the Federal Reserve Bank has been using in the past by manipulating the interest rates and the amount of paper money in circulation. Do you really think they didn’t see this mortgage crisis coming?? Are we to believe that they are incompetent and stupid?

I'm not disagreeing with this. BUT, regardless of that, had people not been extremely retarded with their money, it wouldn't have mattered what the Federal Reserve did. EVERYone should have seen this mortgage crisis coming. The Federal Reserve, the lenders, and most importantly, the BUYERS. I mean...how long did they really think house prices were going to keep going up? How could anyone not see that continuing at that rate, sooner or later, the price of housing was going to far exceed what most can afford, leading to a crash? How long did they think the interest was going to stay that low? If not forever, then how were they planning on affording the house when the interest went up? The sheer stupidity of going with interest only loans, and non-fixed mortgages is mind-boggling, and again illustrates just how stupid the mass public is in this country, and/or how irresponsible they are with their money (i.e. they'd do whatever it took to get into a house, even if they couldn't really afford that house).

You are right but Mc Cain didn't make any promise of recognizing the armenian genocide during his campaign!

My point exactly. At least McCain doesn't lie. He tells you upfront that he won't recognize it, where as Obama is taking you for a gullible idiot by making empty promises, and you're proving him right by believing in them.

[Gavur]

US have allready accepted , both officially and unoficially (as a result of the last bill that passed the foreign relations comitee)the Armenian Genocide.To make this desicion oficial again against this Turkish goverment will be unfruitfull for all concerned at this time,and Turkey fully acknowledges this! Imagine little Armenia flexing its muscles and forcing the "Turkish Nation" to the table!



How proud I'm to be Armenian!!

[SEVAN]

Ummm.....are you forgetting that Bush had that "good start" promise to recognize the Armenian Genocide during his campaign? Obama is a well marketed plastic product. He says all the right things to all the right people to get all the votes. It's hard to fathom that anyone can still be so gullible as to believe a politician's campaign promises. Then again......we are Armenians. Apparently, the most gullible bunch ever.

You are right but Mc Cain didn't make any promise of recognizing the armenian genocide during his campaign!

[SEVAN]

Their are no guarantees and we might be let down again but at least Obama-Biden is a much better alternative for the US and the world.

Sure! Let's remember that the United States already recognized the armenian genocide in 1951! A shame Bush has such a bad memory!

[Edoman]

The Turkish truck driving companies transport mainly fuel (Jet A) from the Airbase to Iraq through the northern border. That is one of the three routes for US to bring supplies in and the Turkish route has been considered the safest even though a few Turks have been shot or kidnapped. No, there is no Truck route from Turkey to Afghanistan, I guess I should have been more specific but the Airbase itself is a key strategic point for the war efforts in that country. Without it would be very hard to support that war. Turkey was one of the first countries to jump on the Afghanistan war wagon in 2001. You can google both informations I provided.

[Steph]

that there is no way that he could continue this so called “War on Terror” in Afghanistan and Pakistan without the Turkish Airbase (Incirlik) and their truck drivers delivering supplies to the front lines.

I'm really interested in this.....Do the turkish truckers drive through Iran with their US military supplies ? Drive through Georgia and Russia to the Central Asian republics to Afghanistan or to azerbad,jan and sail across that Russian lake, the Caspian ?

Really?

[Edoman]

Alexandros, Obama’s comments sound very promising but unfortunately nothing will come out of it. The reality of the situation is that there is no way that he could continue this so called “War on Terror” in Afghanistan and Pakistan without the Turkish Airbase (Incirlik) and their truck drivers delivering supplies to the front lines. Furthermore Israel is using Turkey to push for “So called Peace” with Syria among many other closed door deals and we know how powerful Israeli influence is on American politics. And as if that is not enough Turkish lobby injects millions of dollars every year to make sure the Armenian Genocide does not get recognized. How is our lobby doing?? Remember what happened last time the Genocide issue came up? They pulled their ambassador from Washington, canceled their Generals visit to US and threatened America with the closure of their Airbase and any US flights over their Country, practically all hell broke loose. Talk about blackmail. There is no way Obama can deliver what he says, it would not be in the interest of the United States and Israel. WE ARE ON OUR OWN and nobody gives a damn about the Armenians.

Anomaly, I wouldn’t be so fast on putting the blame on all the American people. This is same old tricks that the Federal Reserve Bank has been using in the past by manipulating the interest rates and the amount of paper money in circulation. Do you really think they didn’t see this mortgage crisis coming?? Are we to believe that they are incompetent and stupid? Why do they bail out their banks and allow others to fall flat on their face. They are doing exactly what they have planned including the fall of the US dollar. BTW, guess who is going to get this $700 Billion temporary fix that they are going to bleed off of us tax payers while CEOs of bankrupt companies walk away with millions. I tell you who, the Banks that are under their control. This is just the tip of the iceberg and no president can fix it because the real power is held by our masters who run everybody and everything of importance including the President while keeping us fat dumb and entertained so we don’t think too much. Military Industrial complex has finally been completely fused into the domestic US economy and Democracy? No longer exists in any real sense. They took the most beautiful peace of literature ever written by man and pissed all over it in name of national security and nobody did anything about it. The Forefathers are rolling in their graves.

[Alexandros]

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PRESS RELEASE

For Immediate Release ~ 2008-09-21
Contact: Elizabeth S. Chouldjian ~ Tel: (202) 775-1918


OBAMA MARKS ARMENIAN INDEPENDENCE DAY

Stresses his Respect for Enormous Armenian Contributions to American Life


WASHINGTON, DC – Presidential candidate Barack Obama today joined with Armenian Americans in celebrating Armenian Independence day in statement that noted Armenia’s first modern instance of independence in 1918 and congratulated all Armenians on Armenia’s rebirth in 1991 as an independent state after 70 years of Soviet rule, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).

Senator Obama has, at several points during the campaign season, shared his views on Armenian American issues, including in a statement this April dedicated to the remembrance of the Armenian Genocide. In January of this year, in a statement on the eve of the California primary, he outlined his views on a broad array of Armenian American concerns. The Illinois legislator, who was then facing Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) for his party’s nomination, called for Congressional passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.Res.106 & S.Res.106), and pledged that, as president, he will recognize the Armenian Genocide. He also reaffirmed his support for a strong “U.S.-Armenian relationship that advances our common security and strengthens Armenian democracy,” and promised to “promote Armenian security by seeking an end to the Turkish and Azerbaijani blockades, and by working for a lasting and durable settlement of the Nagorno Karabagh conflict that is agreeable to all parties, and based upon America’s founding commitment to the principles of democracy and self determination.”

The full text of his January statement is posted on the Senator’s campaign website:

http://www.barackobama.com/2008/01/19/barack_obama_on_the_importance.php

In today’s statement, which again cites the Armenian Genocide, Senator Obama noted that “after centuries of living in the Persian, Russian, and Turkish empires, Armenians first achieved their modern independence in 1918 and regained it after 70 years of Soviet rule in 1991. Their struggle continues, but in the years of renewed independence they have been able to guide their own destiny through years of war and economic dislocation.”

Senator Obama went on to mention the President of Turkey’s recent decision to accept the President of Armenia’s invitation to a World Cup qualifying match in Yerevan. The ANCA has outlined its views on this development in letters sent to the U.S. Congress.

Click here to read the text of these letters.

The full text of Senator Obama’s statement is provided below.


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Statement by Senator Barack Obama on Armenian Independence Day
Sunday, September 21, 2008


On this day, September 21, Armenians and friends of Armenia everywhere celebrate the independence of the Republic of Armenia, and I extend my warmest and best wishes on this happy occasion. Throughout their long history, a spirit of independence, self-reliance, and survival defines the Armenian people. After centuries of living in the Persian, Russian, and Turkish empires, Armenians first achieved their modern independence in 1918 and regained it after 70 years of Soviet rule in 1991. Their struggle continues, but in the years of renewed independence they have been able to guide their own destiny through years of war and economic dislocation. Even in the face of genocide, the pain of the past has not defeated the Armenians, either in Armenia or the far-flung diaspora.

America has benefited tremendously from the vigor and talents of the Armenian people. Armenian-Americans have made enormous contributions to American life – to our arts and academia, to business, science, and politics – while still maintaining strong ties to their ancestral home.

Recent events in the Caucasus region remind us of both the importance of rededicating ourselves to peace, and the possibility of progress even where there is a long history of alienation. The conflict in Georgia shows the danger that lurks when rising tensions are ignored and the United States pursues a diplomatic strategy of neglect. But in recent days we have also seen the hopeful step – taken by the Presidents of Turkey and Armenia -- to restart dialogue that could, in time, bring a welcome normalization of relations and offer Armenia more diversified opportunities for trade, transport, and energy supplies. American policy must build on this step, to ensure that Armenia enjoys a future not merely of independence but of partnership and cooperation with the U.S. and its allies.


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