Obama Recognizes Armenian Genocide

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Sen. Barack Obama Discusses Armenian Genocide :

Sen. Barack Obama

[Eddo211]

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What I really want you to pay attention in this article is what I bolded. A toast to Charles for speaking the truth without fear of J3wish reprisals.

“Now we are waiting that maybe Mr. Obama will have the good idea to recognize the Genocide and after that Turkey, I think, will follow his example. About the Israel, well, they usually want to be known as the only country who suffered the massacres,” HAYINFO cited Aznavour as saying.
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A well said 'in your face' statement to Israel.

Maybe he should have also said that if they would have put half the effort into Armenia instead of Turkey, Israel today would have been in a much better position with a better and a more effective ally…………..but it appears that they still consider us an ancient enemy?
Why does it have to be this way.
I suppose they don’t want to open that (AG) can of worms. Iyants kake doos gegha.

[Federate]

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What I really want you to pay attention in this article is what I bolded. A toast to Charles for speaking the truth without fear of J3wish reprisals.
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If Obama recognizes the Armenian Genocide, Turkey will follow his example

03.04.2009 21:20 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ “US hasn’t yet recognized the Genocide, but 35 other states have already done that,” world known chansonnier Charles Aznavour stated.

“Now we are waiting that maybe Mr. Obama will have the good idea to recognize the Genocide and after that Turkey, I think, will follow his example. About the Israel, well, they usually want to be known as the only country who suffered the massacres,” HAYINFO cited Aznavour as saying.

During his election campaign the 44th President of The United States Barak Obama pledged that, as president, he will recognize Turkey's slaughter of thousands of Armenians starting in 1915 as the Armenian Genocide.
House Resolution 252 affirming the U.S. record on the Armenian Genocide is currently co-sponsored by 88 congressmen.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=30109

[Alexandros]

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Armenian National Committee of America

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PRESS RELEASE

For Immediate Release ~ 2009-04-03
Contact: Elizabeth S. Chouldjian ~ Tel: (202) 775-1918

ANCA WELCOMES DELAY IN GORDON CONFIRMATION VOTE

Senate Vote on State Department Nominee Will Now Take Place after President’s Trip to Turkey

WASHINGTON, DC – The Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) today noted that the U.S. Senate’s delay in confirming the Obama Administration’s nomination of Phil Gordon to a senior State Department posting will allow Senators time to meaningfully consider both the timing and wisdom of approving an individual whose record is so markedly at odds with the President’s commitment to bringing about official U.S. recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

The Senate, which approved a slate of other senior Presidential appointments earlier today, went into a two-week recess this afternoon without acting on his nomination to serve as Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasian Affairs. Although the cause for this delay remains unclear, it is likely the result of a “hold” placed on his confirmation by a member of the Senate.

“We see this delay as a meaningful opportunity for Senators to weigh the merits of approving a nominee with a record of arguing against both Executive Branch and Congressional recognition of the Armenian Genocide – a position at direct odds with the strong moral stand taken by the President that the U.S. should clearly and fully condemn this crime against humanity,” said Aram Hamparian, Executive Director of the ANCA. “We look forward, during Genocide Prevention Month this April, to President Obama honoring his pledge to recognize the Armenian Genocide.”

During his March 31st confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee , and in his extensive writings, Mr. Gordon frequently argued against U.S. recognition of the Armenian Genocide. His responses and record placed him directly at odds with the views of the President, who has consistently argued for U.S. recognition of the Armenian Genocide, strongly supported full Congressional commemoration of this crime, and repeatedly pledged, if elected, to recognize the Armenian Genocide. Gordon’s stand on this human rights issue and also his views on the Turkish occupation of Cyprus, which are seen by the Greek American community as deeply troubling, were the subject of questioning, both verbal and written, during and after his hearing.

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[Alexandros]

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Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL)


US congressman was misquoted by Turkish media about Armenian Genocide resolution

03.04.2009 21:31 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Rep. Mark Kirk, co-chair of the congressional Armenian caucus, says that he remains hopeful about the progress of the Armenian Genocide resolution and was misquoted by the Turkish media about it.

"My hope is that we get this resolution to [a vote on] on the floor and that we adopt it," Mr. Kirk told the Armenian Reporter on April 2. But, he added, "I don't know when Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi is going to put this resolution on the floor. We are all waiting for the Speaker to tell us."

"My hope is that [Speaker Pelosi] puts the resolution on the floor," he said. "President [Barack] Obama said that he is for this resolution and campaign promises should matter."

Together with Reps. Adam Schiff (D.-Calif.), George Radanovich (R.-Calif.) and Frank Pallone, Jr. (D.-N.J.), Mr. Kirk is an original co-sponsor of House Resolution 252 affirming the U.S. record on the Armenian Genocide, which is currently co-sponsored by 85 additional members of the House of Representatives.

On April 2, the English version of Hurriyet daily published a translated excerpt of an interview with Rep. Kirk published the same day in the daily Aksam in Turkish.

The excerpt quoted Rep. Kirk as saying, "Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi will not dare pass the bill. She will not place Obama in a difficult position. The bill will not pass, don't worry."

When asked about this line, Mr. Kirk said that it was "quite an addition to what I said."

While confirming that he spoke with Aksam newspaper correspondent Nagehan Alci, Mr. Kirk said the quote was inaccurate.

"When my words were translated from English to Turkish and then back to English, I did not recognize them anymore," Mr. Kirk said. "The interview made it sound like I was not a supporter of the resolution. Not only I am supporter, but I am a lead Republican supporter."

The Armenian Reporter's request for Ms. Alci to comment made shortly before press time has not yet been answered.

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[hrai]

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To all the stupid Armenians who voted for Obama based on this:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,2711535.story

and it goes on, every level of government, every election pledge, when will people learn?

[Alexandros]

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Barack Obama to Christian Van Gorder: I acknowledge the reality of recognizing Armenian Genocide

31.03.2009 00:54 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ An associate professor of religion at Baylor University, Christian Van Gorder, has told about his talk with U.S. President Barack Obama in the article “I asked Obama about genocide” at wacotrib.com.

The full text of the article is presented below:

“What question would you ask if you had one chance to ask Barack Obama something? Last October while campaigning in the swing state of New Mexico for his presidential campaign (we also traveled to Pennsylvania), my wife and I were told we would have a chance at a $1,500 fundraiser we’d be attending to meet Obama for a few moments.

After days of thought, I decided to ask if he would pledge to recognize the Armenian Genocide if he became president. When I met him I asked my question, and he said that he had already acknowledged this reality. He is repeatedly on record that he would.

Why this question? In a world filled with evils there is no more evil imaginable than genocide.

My German ancestors filled the sky with the ashes of millions of xxxs, gypsies, homosexuals, communists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons and Slavs. In 1915, between 1 million and 2 million men, women and children of Armenia were systematically massacred by the Ottoman Turkish Empire.

British postwar trials set the number at more than 1 million. Yet, the Turkish government denies genocide and admits only that thousands of Armenians died randomly in the midst of the paroxysms of World War I.

This is a blatant, revisionist lie.

The argument in favor of avoiding the recognition of the facts of history is that the United States lives in a real world where pragmatic solutions must address actual, present problems.

The United States values Turkey’s support for its wars and its military bases there. Turkey threatens to remove assistance if we acknowledge genocide.

This is bullying, pure and simple. Who needs whom more?

When France faced this same question, it acknowledged the facts of the genocide, and, after months of feuding words, the two countries returned to strong relations based on mutual self-interests.

This should be America’s path: Do not lamely kowtow to damnable Turkish attempts to bully our great nation from recognizing Armenia’s brutal genocide. Admit to the facts of history, then move on in a constructive partnership.
Yes, it is important to be pragmatic; but at the cost of truth? I campaigned for, and donated money to, a candidate for the first time in my life because I was hoping for “change that we can believe in.”

Friends told me I was naive and that Barack was just like every other snake-oil salesman. On April 24, the anniversary of the murder of 1.5 million Armenians, we will find out exactly who is right about Obama’s moral compass.

I pray our president will do the right thing and, with integrity, honor his commitment to recognize the horrific Armenian Genocide.”

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Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.)


Eshoo: Time for Passing Genocide Resolution Never More Right

By Khatchig Mouradian • on March 29, 2009

Will bring issue up with Obama on March 30

NEW YORK (A.W.)—“The time for passing the Genocide Resolution has never been more right,” said Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.) on March 28.

Eshoo was delivering her keynote address at the Armenian Relief Society (ARS) Eastern USA’s Centennial Gala Banquet at the Yale Club in New York.

“I will be meeting with the president on Monday [March 30] evening and I am going to again raise this issue [of Armenian Genocide recognition] with him,” she noted.

“The denial continues every minute Congress does not recognize it,” Eshoo said, stressing that “when you deny the truth, you sanction a lie.”

Although “it’s tempting to say the time is right for the governments of the U.S. and Turkey to put the lie aside,” the Congresswoman noted that it is always the right time to speak the truth. She called on the U.S. to live out—in the words of Lincoln—“the better angels of our nature” and to recognize the truth.

The Armenian Weekly will provide in-depth coverage of the ARS Gala Banquet later this week.

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[hipeter924]

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why dont you tell me some?



Yup. Every nation should interest her own democracy more than others democracy. At least, healty nations.




So why do you think refusing AG is hate speech? Because You think so? Not a good argument.



What the history of Africa has relation with living at africa? In reality, You had no interest at africa and You will not aware of what happened at africa If Someone does not teach you.



Yep. So this is not related with history but mentality of Europeans. They are still somehow racist.



I agree but not much important. I dont need to know history to want a better country or do know killing people is wrong.

1. I can't be bothered right now. But one person comes to mind...Dink.

2. Turkey doesn't have democracy, neither does Armenia from a New Zealand standpoint but I don't see what is bad about one democracy criticizing another when they get things wrong.

3. I don't think so. I know there was Armenian Genocide. That is different. Now alternatively if you are from the other position and deny the Armenian Genocide. It can only be racially offensive when the fact the Armenian Genocide occurred is given in a evil or nasty way.

4. It has a lot to do with living in Africa. Goes back to when Africa was divided along tribal borders, when the Europeans came in they made fake borders to suit themselves and played tribes against each other. Today those tribes want their borders back or are divided across Africa, this has caused a lot of modern conflict like in Rwanda.

5. Many Europeans were racist because of their history of persecuting xxxs and Gypsies. Hitler used this racism to help him blame all the problems of Germany on the xxxs, Gypsies and so on...pretty easy since most people were on the large part racist to them anyway.

6. Yes I agree that you don't need history to know morality or build a better country. But I can't agree with the fact history is a minor thing, since it influences what we have today aka Religion, Politics, Science, Culture and so forth.

[Palavra]

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1. There are many people behind bars because of the genocide claim, sorry not sure whether to laugh at the hypocrisy of your statement or greet it with disdain.

why dont you tell me some?

2. Um...what does involvement in another nation have to do with...democracy in another nation? That logic doesn't make sense, explain more.

Yup. Every nation should interest her own democracy more than others democracy. At least, healty nations.

3. Armenian Genocide recognition is not hate speech, neither is recognition of the xxxish Holocaust, an event in history is only hate speech if people want to interpret it that way (with the exception of Extreme Nationalists of course)

So why do you think refusing AG is hate speech? Because You think so? Not a good argument.

4. My knowledge of Africa? Well what can you do read a few books, read a few articles, and I wouldn't want to live there.

What the history of Africa has relation with living at africa? In reality, You had no interest at africa and You will not aware of what happened at africa If Someone does not teach you.

5. The xxxs never harmed the Germans, but you should read such people as HG Wells (he wrote that xxxs and others must be destroyed to make way for a higher form of civilization), in fact at the time of Nazi Germany, most Europeans in fact had a very racist and negative attitude to the xxxs. So it wasn't hard for Hitler to hate the xxxs, it was widespread at the time.

Yep. So this is not related with history but mentality of Europeans. They are still somehow racist.

6. In order to find the needs of the people now and the future you have to look to the wrongs of the past. So history does matter.

I agree but not much important. I dont need to know history to want a better country or do know killing people is wrong.