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International Crisis Group Urges Armenian Pull-out From Occupied 'azeri Lands'

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  • International Crisis Group Urges Armenian Pull-out From Occupied 'azeri Lands'

    INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP URGES ARMENIAN PULL-OUT FROM OCCUPIED AZERI LANDS

    Mediamax news agency
    12 Sep 05

    Yerevan, 12 September: [Azerbaijani President] Ilham Aliyev's
    frequent public statements about an increase in the military budget
    of Azerbaijan are "moves in wrong direction", the vice-president
    of the International Crisis Group (ICG), Alain Deletroz, said in
    Yerevan today.

    Addressing a news conference in Yerevan today, Alain Deletroz said
    that "the arms race will be extremely dangerous for the sides of the
    Nagornyy Karabakh conflict and for the region on the whole". This is
    why, the ICG vice-president thinks, "Armenia and Azerbaijan should
    use the chance for the settlement of the conflict given by the Prague
    process".

    Alain Deletroz said that on 14 September the International Crisis Group
    will issue its report which contains recommendations to the parties in
    the conflict for the settlement of the Nagornyy Karabakh problem. The
    ICG vice-president mentioned basic recommendations to the authorities
    of Armenia and Nagornyy Karabakh listed in the report: to continue
    the Prague process; not to allow appearance of new settlements on
    occupied territories; to pull out troops from the occupied territories.

    As for determining the status of Nagornyy Karabakh, Alain Deletroz
    thinks this issue cannot be solved today and it is necessary to return
    to it in 10-15 years "by means of democratic procedures". The ICG
    vice-president believes that till that time Nagornyy Karabakh will
    be under the protection of international security guarantees.

  • #2
    the international crisis group can go stuff itself. there is going to be not 1 single inch of liberated territory returned. This is out of the question. There exist nationalists within Armenia who will not allow this. For Armenian authorities to agree to such terms would mean not only the end of their political careers, but also their lives.

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    • #3
      Azerbaijanis can visit Artsakh in their dreams. I hope that works for them.

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      • #4
        Under The Mediators’ Cover?

        Whose interests is the International Crisis Group lobbying?
        .
        THE FIRST RESERVATION: all the underwritten facts have been taken from open Internet resources.
        THE SECOND RESERVATION: due to the newspaper space’s limited character we do not make a reference to the information’s primary sources.
        THE THIRD RESERVATION: only the most eloquent data have been cited in the article, however, we have some interesting information concerning other members of International Crisis Group Executive Committee at our disposal.
        Thus, International Crisis Group: suddenly the name came to be widely used in the information on Nagorno Karabakh conflict settlement. From the very beginning the Group’s representatives have behaved very cool. For a short period of time they managed to “deal” with an ancient bloody conflict and presented a report with their recommendations. Moreover, the ICG representatives’ reports are becoming more and more imperative, categorical and even provocative. What kind of organization is International Crisis Group that it actually speaks on behalf of RA government? The information on the organization and its staff can be found on its Internet site - www. crisisgroup. Org. There are 59 employees in ICG Executive Committee. Here is the information received in Internet concerning some of the organization’s leaders and influential persons.
        MORTON ABRAMOVITS, one of the founders of ICG: former Assistant of the U. S. State Secretary, the U. S. ex Ambassador to Turkey. Morton Abramovits visited Ankara as a member of International Crisis Group. A quotation from an article published in Hurriet:”Till Turkish soldiers are in Cyprus violation is ruled out there”.
        ZBIGNEV BZHEZINSKI, former National Security Adviser to the U. S. President, a member of American – Azeri Trade House Honorable Board.
        STEFEN SOLARTS is also one of the founders and ICG vice President. He is one of the most influential lobbyists in the U.S., actively defends Turkish interests.
        ERSIN ARIOGHLU, Turkish MP. No comment.
        UTA ZAPF is Head of the German Bundestag Sub Committee on Demilitarization, Arms Control and Non - Extension. She is also a member of German Christian – Democratic Party, an active supporter of Turkey’s entry into the EU, Head of German – Turkish Parliamentary Group
        EMMA BONINO: European MP, a member of the EU “Independent” Commission on Turkey. There is a special section devoted to her activity targeted at Turkey’s entry into the EU on her personal site.
        WILLIAM SHOWCROSS – his name is mentioned among those who unleashed a war in Iraq.
        KENNETH ADELMAN – a member of American Committee for Peace in Chechnya. Isn’t it strange for the organization positioned itself as a peacemaking one?
        Also: members of the above – mentioned EU “Independent” Commission on Turkey, active pro - Turkish lobbyists PAT COX, BRONISLAV GEREMEK and the Commission Head MARTTY AKHTISAARY. One more name: GEORGE MITCHELL – ICG Honorable Chair, according to the Western mass media, he has been involved in the international swindle on attempt to privatize Azeri State Oil Company (“Victor Kozhena’s” case).
        KARLA HILLS – Shevron Corporation Director since 1993, its leading Director since 2004. To remind, Shevron Oil Company is Azerbaijan’s friend.
        Levon Ter – Petrosyan’s former press secretary is International Crisis Group representative in Armenia.
        One more thing: last year Turkish MFA became one of the ICG sponsors.
        The answer to the question put as the article’s headline is obvious. Are there any questions?


        Marina GRIGORYAN

        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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