Orhan Pamuk, A Modern Day Faust

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[maral_m79]

Then how come his books are the #1 Best seller in Turkey ?

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I don't like Orhan Pamuk and his novels.He doesen't know anything about Turkey as a naive westrener.He thinks that Europe is golden land for Turks and Turks don't fit into it.He is too polemical than as a author.Like Salman Rushdie who insulted Holy Quran in his Satanic Verses, he looks for fame and prestije.

Westren circles like him, because he went American Robert Academy in Istanbul.This academy- always been a head ache for Turkey- produced political nightmares like Bulent Ecevit and Tansu Ciller.The Academy produced Pro -Westren columints, translators, scholars, scientists, politicians and all of them were harmfull for Turkey.I think this academy must be abolished.It hurts our nation deeply.

The most significant support to him came from Salman Rushdie, his spiritual counterpart who wrote an article on 14 October 2005 for The Times.

I want to point some similarities of Orhan Pamuk and Salman Rushdie here:

Both belongs a wealthy family.

Both went English speaking missionary schools.

Both had no regular jobs.

Both used masonic and religious themes in their novels.

Both had a westren lobby behind themselves.

Both became modern day Fausts,

Both caused a international controversy.


Faust or Faustus is the protagonist of a popular German tale that has been used as the basis for many different fictional works. The story concerns the fate of a learned gentleman named Faust, who in his quest for forbidden or advanced knowledge of material things, summons the Devil (represented by Mephistopheles, often also referred as Mephisto), who offers to serve him for a period of time, at the cost of his soul.

In this case, Orhan Pamuk is Fausts and West is Mephistopheles.

Novels of Orhan Pamuk merely frauds, masonic plots, esoteric mumbo-jumbo in oriental sense.There is a racsist tinge in them.Turkish storeotypes are ugly, vulgar, unfair and backward.But west thinks his novels deal with the clash between past and present and the values of East and West from the point of view of a bourgeois intellectual.The truth is that, Orhan Pamuk says the same thing what Samuel Huntigton says in 'Clash Of Civilizaitions- West is good East is bad.



I can pinpoint a similarity between him and Umberto Ecco:

The best known work of Ecco is: The Name Of The Rose.If the rose is red, it points a famous Rosicurican archtype.

My name is Red, a previous novel by Orhan Pamuk contains a plot on murders of book copiers, caligarphers in Ottoman times.Both books have a plot wise affinity.


He is too narcist .He considers himself a man of thought and stance, a artfull mediator and convice others so.But too many readers find his novels obscure, boring and inconsistent.The critics don't like his books.His Turkish is awfull.He speaks English better than Turkish.I think he has writer and correction team for his books.The westren lobby behind him used every marketing tool to boost the selling of his novels.Western media made remarks like that :

foremost novelist,

renowend writer,

a great story teller etc etc.

Maybe he is most known, but he is not the best writer in Turkey.But he has westren media bandwagoning him .



He faces charges for telling a Swiss newspaper in February that :

-30,000 Kurds and 1 million Armenians were killed in these lands, and nobody but me dares to talk about it."


This declarations on Armeninas and Kurds are baseless and biased.Orhan Pamuk is a great liar.He using this topic for his own interset not his plight for democracy, free speech, human rights etc etc.He sees himself as a contender for Nobel prize.
His ostensible aim is to receive the Nobel Prize for literature. He was aware it would not suffice to write only a good novel or to create a good work of art to win this prize.

This case has a open modus operandi :to fool and fuddle Turkey and Turks.
So our nation acted collectively.


This week Turkish press and media divided on his trial, some defending him as a victim and some blaming him as traitor.He made a havoc at the heartland of our nation.

Turkish Armenians divided by our bloody foe, British army against the state.British had set attrocities among Turks, Greeks, Kurds and Armenians.Like other minorites, Armenians were reach, peacefull and skilled citizens.They had high ranking positions in goverment and state .They omitted military service.They were the most pampered segement of our society when most of Turks were poor and illitirate.Most city names in eastern provinces still in Armenian.They are still part of Turkey instead of our bloody foes.

I am sure jurisdiction will not punish Orhan Pamuk .He is powerfull, he is rich.He knows West will support him.He considers Turkey as a banana republic and subservient to Western demands on any ground.So his case will not be a litmus for foreign pressure.



Turks are not beggars like Third World.Only rootless and rich people like Orhan Pamuk wants to join homosexual and sodomite EU. Eu is not a dream for Turks.She was and is a nightmare for many people.

The last incindents in France showed Western ideals: democracy, freedom, and equality were mere illusions. The western nations procured this ideals for themselves only not for the third world.

The Western goverments and instutions think there is a inherent biological cause. The third world is not compatible racially with Europeans. So, they want to deport them back to their countries or send them to prisons to rot.


But western nations like Britain exploited the resources of the third world and give them gospels and told them to be subsurvient to their orders. Then, they exported them to do dirty and hard jobs for them. Only rich people from third world gained access to education and good living conditions. The West served like large shopping mall for rich all around the world .

Orhan Pamuk is not the first writer insulting Turkish identity.Aziz Nesin, after his books translated into English, had said '60% percent of Turks are dumb.', Ahmet Altan another charlatan said ' Turks are vulgar people.'


That is main tactic of prolific writers in Turkey: insult Turkish identity, gain fame, money and prestije world wide.A lot of Turkish writers who carved for fame and money and who had nothing to say became lackeys and mouthpieces of West.

Orhan Pamuk fell prey to the trap West way layed for him.The West will back clap him, applause him, maybe give him Nobel prize.But he will not have a homeland, like Salaman Rushdie.He will stroll aimlessly at the cold streets and oppulent sky of west like Marcel Proust.

Are you sure?I am now reading his book SNOW.And I am surprised.Because I thought that he wasn't interested in Anatolia's problems(Kurd problem,Armenian problem...)because I knew that he graduated from American Robert Academy.But now I know that he knows a lot of things about Anatolia.Or how can he emphasize on these problems in his books?(If you have read his books,you know that)So I think he is a hero for Anatoians.

[maral_m79]

Are you sure?I am now reading his book SNOW.And I am surprised.Because I thought that he wasn't interested in Anatolia's problems(Kurd problem,Armenian problem...)because I knew that he graduated from American Robert Academy.But now I know that he knows a lot of things about Anatolia.Or how can he emphasize on these problems in his books?(If you have read his books,you know that)So I think he is a hero for Anatoians.

good one you got him!

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good one you got him!

Thanks.I tried to do my best.