Srebrenica Cries For Ten Years

[imported_Sardarapat]

Next thing you know, we'll be reading posts about how Armenians commited genocide on the Azeris in the late eighties to mid nineties and genocide on the Turks during world war one.

[maral_m79]

The "world" has accepted it? What world? Pfffttttt. So if you see somebody jump in the river does that mean you have to? There is no possibility of comparison or similarity, except that in BOTH cases, the criminals are the ones screaming they are victims.

What do you mean ?



If you like it or not, Servrenica Genocide is Internationally recognized by International Genocide scholars and Human rights organizations as a "Genocide" !

I suggest that you do more reading !!

[imported_Sensei]

What do you mean ?



If you like it or not, Servrenica Genocide is Internationally recognized by International Genocide scholars and Human rights organizations as a "Genocide" !

I suggest that you do more reading !!

I've done plenty of reading AND debating mr. presumptuous. Don't make me laugh about those so-called "human rights" organizations which are nothing more than Soros/nwo front organizations and forget your mainstream media. You know who runs that. Krokodil just pointed out this so-called "genocide" is not accepted in much of the world. Don't go thinking that the west dictates to the world what's what. They lie and they lie BIG time. Also make note of what Sardarapat said.

Otherwise, don't complain when they do it to Armenians if it was perfectly alright to do it to someone else. DEMONIZATION, pure and simple.

[Krokodil]

Strange. I don't really know of any genocide scholars who do. Moreover, there are human rights organisations who also set out to revise the infomation. Even so, they are still dishonest for their goal is to revise what was originally claimed to more believable numbers. Nontheless, they are not interested in what is true. Do you know of some of these scholars so I can read about it?

Thanks.

What do you mean ?



If you like it or not, Servrenica Genocide is Internationally recognized by International Genocide scholars and Human rights organizations as a "Genocide" !

I suggest that you do more reading !!

[Krokodil]

Maral:

I think you are making a very big mistake with your comments. Let me explain why. Although there are many many individuals I can name lets start with Jack Straw.

Does that name ring a bell?

Lets see what this man has to say about Srebrenica:

http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php?id=news2005&ux_news%5Bid%5D=ac05js&cHash=6cd4f7cecf

Now. What does he say about the Armenian Genocide? Well not much actually:

Why should the recognition of an event 90 years old be an issue today? Why connect it to Turkey’s E.U. bid? Indeed, why rack up the past, as Jack Straw put it?

Here are the search results:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Jack+Straw+%22Armenian+genocide%22&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&start=0&sa=N

Notice the Cyprus issue being brought up:

http://phylax.blogs.com/phylax/2006/01/straw_does_his_.html

So essentially you have a propogation of Turkish interests.

There are many, many names such Staw, Robin Cook, Mabeline Allbright, Holbrook, Cohen, etc... These are rotten, two-faced, criminal individuals. I find these people quite revolting. If the govenments that these people represent are the ones feeding these "human rights" oraganisation, what does it say about them. Or what about this Haugue. How can the Haugue be an impartial criminal court when it is held up and financed by Washington?

Please, please do not be naive. If god-forbid our people fall under the same circumstance and we end up having to fervently defend ourselves, why would any of our traditional allies listen if we jump on a bandwagon of lies and corruption?

[maral_m79]

Strange. I don't really know of any genocide scholars who do. Moreover, there are human rights organisations who also set out to revise the infomation. Even so, they are still dishonest for their goal is to revise what was originally claimed to more believable numbers. Nontheless, they are not interested in what is true. Do you know of some of these scholars so I can read about it?

Thanks.

http://www.preventgenocide.org/prevent/UNdocs/KofiAnnanStockholmGenocideProposals26Jan2004.htm

http://www.preventgenocide.org/edu/publications/new-and-forthcoming2003.htm

This International Association Of Genocide Scholar's Conference.

This Google search in GenocideWatch.org

Look, if these people accept that it was a genocide, then they must've studied it very well and then concluded that. And if it was a Genocide, it would be shameful that we won't sympathize, understand or accept !!

[imported_RUDO]

I have a Serbian mate who's family are refugees from the Sarajevo area. He informed of a few things. They are pretty nostalgic about going back, but know that they can't.

I know that Russian medias never mention anything about a genocide. I don't think Indian or Chinese papers do either.

I've read a few things about it and here is my personal opinion:

Muslims committed horendous atrocities against Serbs in and around this area. They used Srebrenica as the launching pad for these attacks. There were many witnesses and many of the culprits were specifically named. The international authorities failed to take any action against the accused culprits and also failed in defending Serbian villages around these areas. From things I read, the Serbian army carried with them photographs and a listing of names of "wanted men" when they attacked Srebrinica. I also read that until today, about 2400 bodies have been found in and around this area.

So,

It is known that before the Serbian attack on the town, war around this area has already been waged for about 3 years, it is then logical to think that not all of those bodies were from this partical incident. From my understanding, Serbs also suffered casualties during the attack, so not all the bodies that were produced as a result of the incident were those of Muslims. And assuming that all of them are, what happenned to the rest? If 8000 muslims were systematically massacred in cold-blood as is claimed, on top of that war has already waged in and around this area for 3 years more human remains should have been found.

I do think that Serbs in this particular attack were less inclined to take prisoners. I do think that Serbian soldiers were quite enraged after what they had witnessed what was done in Serbian villages around the area, which led to brutalities against their Muslim prisoners. However, labelling this event as "genocide" is rediculous.

And even more ridiculous is having this thread in the Armenian Genocide news section since it has nothing to do with Armenians. It should be in the General section.

Yes,I am sorry for it.I didn't want to put this thread Armenian Genocide section.But I made a mistake accidentally.Sorry!!!

[TurQ]

In Srebsrenitsa 8,000 men aged 15 and above were summoned and killed. That was a UN safe haven-socalled. The French general in UN actually helped those Serbs out. The UN gathered all of Bosnian weapon, because it was UN safe haven and then they let Serbs enter the city. It is a combination of French-Serb and a little of of Dutch crime against humanity.

Your Serbian friend is either a chetnik fasist or have no idea about what had happened in Sarajevo.
Majority of the massacres in Bosnia occured in first 6-8 months of the war. In this phase of the war
there were no sizeable Muslim/Bosnian Army to defend Bosnians. Majority of the killings commited either
by Serb Chetniks or Croat Ustashas. Yes, there were some Bosnian soldiers did commited crimes, but this was far later
and the Serb actions can not be a reaction, because they are the ones who started this whole mess. For the
Croat actions against Serbs, thats another issue, not related with Srebsrenitsa

I have a Serbian mate who's family are refugees from the Sarajevo area. He informed of a few things. They are pretty nostalgic about going back, but know that they can't.

I know that Russian medias never mention anything about a genocide. I don't think Indian or Chinese papers do either.

I've read a few things about it and here is my personal opinion:

Muslims committed horendous atrocities against Serbs in and around this area. They used Srebrenica as the launching pad for these attacks. There were many witnesses and many of the culprits were specifically named. The international authorities failed to take any action against the accused culprits and also failed in defending Serbian villages around these areas. From things I read, the Serbian army carried with them photographs and a listing of names of "wanted men" when they attacked Srebrinica. I also read that until today, about 2400 bodies have been found in and around this area.

So,

It is known that before the Serbian attack on the town, war around this area has already been waged for about 3 years, it is then logical to think that not all of those bodies were from this partical incident. From my understanding, Serbs also suffered casualties during the attack, so not all the bodies that were produced as a result of the incident were those of Muslims. And assuming that all of them are, what happenned to the rest? If 8000 muslims were systematically massacred in cold-blood as is claimed, on top of that war has already waged in and around this area for 3 years more human remains should have been found.

I do think that Serbs in this particular attack were less inclined to take prisoners. I do think that Serbian soldiers were quite enraged after what they had witnessed what was done in Serbian villages around the area, which led to brutalities against their Muslim prisoners. However, labelling this event as "genocide" is rediculous.

And even more ridiculous is having this thread in the Armenian Genocide news section since it has nothing to do with Armenians. It should be in the General section.

[Joseph]

In Srebsrenitsa 8,000 men aged 15 and above were summoned and killed. That was a UN safe haven-socalled. The French general in UN actually helped those Serbs out. The UN gathered all of Bosnian weapon, because it was UN safe haven and then they let Serbs enter the city. It is a combination of French-Serb and a little of of Dutch crime against humanity.

Your Serbian friend is either a chetnik fasist or have no idea about what had happened in Sarajevo.
Majority of the massacres in Bosnia occured in first 6-8 months of the war. In this phase of the war
there were no sizeable Muslim/Bosnian Army to defend Bosnians. Majority of the killings commited either
by Serb Chetniks or Croat Ustashas. Yes, there were some Bosnian soldiers did commited crimes, but this was far later
and the Serb actions can not be a reaction, because they are the ones who started this whole mess. For the
Croat actions against Serbs, thats another issue, not related with Srebsrenitsa

What happened in Bosnia was definitely a genocide. I see some Armenians on the board are essentially making the same arguements regarding the Bosnian Muslims as many Turks make regarding Armenians. Let's not be blind. The Armenian genocide is neither the first nor the last and it should be recognized but we should not ignore the plight and victimizations of others. Whether you like Bosnians or not is inconsequential. They were singled out and massacred for who they were.

[imported_RUDO]

What happened in Bosnia was definitely a genocide. I see some Armenians on the board are essentially making the same arguements regarding the Bosnian Muslims as many Turks make regarding Armenians. Let's not be blind. The Armenian genocide is neither the first nor the last and it should be recognized but we should not ignore the plight and victimizations of others. Whether you like Bosnians or not is inconsequential. They were singled out and massacred for who they were.

Yes,you are right I think.We shouldn't deny this genocide like Turks denying Armenian Genocide.Genocide is genocide.