Atom Egoyan's Ararat To Be Screened In Turkey

[Gavur]

ANKARA, MARCH 30, ARMENPRESS: Turkish CanalTurk will screen a film by Canadian Armenian director Atom Egoyan-Ararat- which is about the 1915 Armenian genocide. Before making this decision the company had conducted a survey among 21,000 Turks. Some 18,000 said they would like to see the film.
The Turkish daily Milliyet writes that a Turkish company that wanted to screen the film in Turkey a couple of years ago had to revise its decision after receiving threats from a youth extremist organization. The CanalTurk, however, has cut off some scenes depicting massacres of Armenians by Turkish soldiers.

[ScythianVizier]

I watched it since it was in circulation long before on screen in Turkey. I think it is not the best movie that Egoyan made, but it was interesting to watch.

[TurQ]

I think it was few years back, I heard that one of his movie will be shown in HBO, I was curious and watched a bit. I think the guy is kind of a sexual pervert. I am wondering if the conservative Armenians are proud of him or not

I watched it since it was in circulation long before on screen in Turkey. I think it is not the best movie that Egoyan made, but it was interesting to watch.

[phantom]

I think it was few years back, I heard that one of his movie will be shown in HBO, I was curious and watched a bit. I think the guy is kind of a sexual pervert. I am wondering if the conservative Armenians are proud of him or not

I don't like his movies. I don't find them particularly entertaining. But I am proud of him, because he is an accomplished director and there are many that love his cerebral and artistic (even if unentertaining) movies.

[1.5 million]

Egoyan is an artist - he is brilliant. And he is a unique talent and an increble filmaker. Unfortunatly Ararat is an intellectual movie (perhaps can even be described as quirky) with a great deal of subtlty & deapth (layers)...that most will not fully appreciate. IMO it is a masterpiece. It is not the do all and end of the Genocide - not by any means - and maybe it isn't the "movie of the Genocide" per se (though I doubt there is such a movie that can do it all and be commercially viable at the same time - though I have a concept that I will explore/am exploring which will be some of both I think - but that is another subject alltogether). Ararat is a very important movie. It was really made for Armenians - though certain Turks and others - with some concept beyond the basic/obvious should be able to benefit from the film as well.

BTW - I am not surprised that the first thing from TurQ concerning this film is an attempt at character assasination. pathetic.

[TurQ]

I have not watch ARARAT.

I have watched another movie that was in HBO by Egoyan, it was Hotel Exotica.
Obviously he has some obsessions that why I thought he is sort of a sexual pervert.

Egoyan is an artist - he is brilliant. And he is a unique talent and an increble filmaker. Unfortunatly Ararat is an intellectual movie (perhaps can even be described as quirky) with a great deal of subtlty & deapth (layers)...that most will not fully appreciate. IMO it is a masterpiece. It is not the do all and end of the Genocide - not by any means - and maybe it isn't the "movie of the Genocide" per se (though I doubt there is such a movie that can do it all and be commercially viable at the same time - though I have a concept that I will explore/am exploring which will be some of both I think - but that is another subject alltogether). Ararat is a very important movie. It was really made for Armenians - though certain Turks and others - with some concept beyond the basic/obvious should be able to benefit from the film as well.

BTW - I am not surprised that the first thing from TurQ concerning this film is an attempt at character assasination. pathetic.

[ScythianVizier]

I did watch Egoyan movies like Exotica, Felicia's Journey, The Sweet Hereafter, and Ararat. He is fine, but Ararat did not appear to me as if it was the best, but surely it was an interesting one to watch since it was about Turkey, Turks and Armenia and the Armenians.

[TurQ]

Vezir
His own 7 month pregnant wife(Khanjian) was one of the leading characters(I think she was the owner of the some striptease club or something?) and she was having gay relationship with the underage highschool girl.
I was pretty much disturbed.

I did watch Egoyan movies like Exotica, Felicia's Journey, The Sweet Hereafter, and Ararat. He is fine, but Ararat did not appear to me as if it was the best, but surely it was an interesting one to watch since it was about Turkey, Turks and Armenia and the Armenians.

[bell-the-cat]

Egoyan is an artist - he is brilliant. And he is a unique talent and an increble filmaker. Unfortunatly Ararat is an intellectual movie (perhaps can even be described as quirky) with a great deal of subtlty & deapth (layers)...that most will not fully appreciate.

I don't understand how you can think of saying that about a movie that had no sublety or depth at all, and which had an almost deliberate lack of intelligence.

But I suppose it is better than Egoyan's own defense, which went along the lines "the bits in it that are bad are actually deliberately bad". In other words, "bad art" is never really "bad art" if the artist says he just wanted it to appear to be bad art.

I wish that defense would work in other scenarios, like: "hey, I know I failed the exam, but I only failed because I wanted to fail so really I didn't fail at all and you should give me an A-grade pass!".

[1.5 million]

I don't understand how you can think of saying that about a movie that had no sublety or depth at all, and which had an almost deliberate lack of intelligence.

But I suppose it is better than Egoyan's own defense, which went along the lines "the bits in it that are bad are actually deliberately bad". In other words, "bad art" is never really "bad art" if the artist says he just wanted it to appear to be bad art.

I wish that defense would work in other scenarios, like: "hey, I know I failed the exam, but I only failed because I wanted to fail so really I didn't fail at all and you should give me an A-grade pass!".

Can't help it that you don't "get it" - suffice to say that you don't. I had never heard this statement of Egoyan's but I understand what he is saying completely - it is obvious even...