Kurdish Terrorists Of Turkey!

[Joseph]

pkk is a terorrist!

Yeah, the PKK are terrorists but the actions of the Turkish State in the S.E make the PKK look like kindergarten teachers.

[imported_so-called]

I am a Turkish guy and stayed with 4 Kurdish guys during my 4 years undergraduate degree and they are not called Terrorist at all. They are the founder of Turkish Republic and have the same rights Turkish people. If you are trying to empose people that Turkey full of anti-Kurds you are wrong and its not true. Second president and many of the prime ministers and Parliament ministers were/are Kurdish. Yes I accept that Turkey didnt pay good attention about their cultural rights but day by day we are improving our democracy not only for the Kurds but for the all etnical groups live in Turkey. I see that you had lots of reading from Kurdish journals but you need to question what you read. If each kurdish is terrorist and their population is from 10-15 million and how come they are not the biggest political party in Turkey-biggest part got 6.5 votes in last election- they are not assumed as you said terrorists but our brothers...

[Joseph]

I am a Turkish guy and stayed with 4 Kurdish guys during my 4 years undergraduate degree and they are not called Terrorist at all. They are the founder of Turkish Republic and have the same rights Turkish people. If you are trying to empose people that Turkey full of anti-Kurds you are wrong and its not true. Second president and many of the prime ministers and Parliament ministers were/are Kurdish. Yes I accept that Turkey didnt pay good attention about their cultural rights but day by day we are improving our democracy not only for the Kurds but for the all etnical groups live in Turkey. I see that you had lots of reading from Kurdish journals but you need to question what you read. If each kurdish is terrorist and their population is from 10-15 million and how come they are not the biggest political party in Turkey-biggest part got 6.5 votes in last election- they are not assumed as you said terrorists but our brothers...

If you read our posts regarding the Kurds you would clearly understand that it is not we who are saying the Kurds are terrorists, but it is your government and military who deems them to be and treats them in that manner. The Kurdish issue was not created in a vacuum; it did not appear out of thin air. It evolved into its present state after decades of harrasment, ridicule, and humiliation of the Kurdish population. Are the PKK terrorists? Yes. But did you ever question why people become desperate enough to join those organizations? For the same reason the United States should try to understand why their are terrorist groups that are opposed to them, perhaps the Turkish state should make an effort to understand the root causes of the cycle of violence in the South East.

As we see manifested today, killing terrorists only creates more terrorism.

Yes, the Kurds have the same rights as you...as long as they all downplay their Kurdish identity.

I also feel that the Kurdish journals are a valuable source of information, head and shoulders above an officially sanctioned government source.

[Joseph]

FLOWERS OF TURKEY
Gerhard Pils

Kurdish Info, Germany

http://www.kurdishinfo.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5010

Nov 26 2006

Kurdishinfo-I am the Austrian teacher, who had to leave Turkey because
of mentioning the word "Kurdistan" in a completely apolitical member
in the Austrian school in Istanbul.

During the last decades Turkey experienced an enormous touristic
boom. At present about 20million visitors are pouring into the country
each year, among thema considerable number with an interest in Turkeys
natural beauties. Unfortunately this desire to learn more about nature
is hindered gravely by the lack of well illustrated literature. With
4153 species of ferns and flowering plants infull colour this
book intends toclose the gap.It should make plant identifications
mucheasier for both, professional botanists but also interested
"laymen" as entomologists, geographers, gardeners ornaturalists.

Knowledge of the Turkish Flora is still rather rudimentary in
comparison with the situation in European countries. This is due
partly to its high botanic diversity, but also to the peculiar
development of scientific botany in Turkey. Until the middle of the
20. century, floristic exploration was mainlydone by foreigners. The
most importantof these early pioneers was PIERRE EDMOND BOISSIER,a
Swiss citizen. Withhis monumental "Flora Orientalis"(5 vols.,
1867-1888) he laid the fundamentals for all further research
in this area. The first local botanist with an international
reputation was GEORGES VINCENT AZNAVOUR (1861-1920), a wealthy
Armenian of Christian confession. His collection of plants from the
Bosporus region comprised about 20.000 samples. After his death Turkish
botany again sank back into stagnation. One possible reason was repeated
ethnic cleansing by the Turkish Republic. Thereby a considerable part
of the intelligentsia was slaughtered or expulsed, namely Armenians
and Greeks.

A final impetus to the explorationof the Turkish flora came from
the Flora of Turkey Project (DAVIES & al. 1965-2000). Specialists
from many European countries contributed to this monumental work. One
of the most active collectors at that time wasmy compatriot Mrs.

FRIEDERIKE SORGER(Linz). Her private herbarium of Turkish plants
finally comprised about 33,000 samples. The Flora ofTurkey Project was
also a considerable stimulus for the development of systematic botany
in Turkey. Inconsequence the last supplement to the "Flora of Turkey"
was already published by an exclusively Turkish team of scientists
(GUENER & al. 2000).

The present book is the result of my 5-years stay as a teacher at the
Austrian school ("Avusturya Lisesi") inIstanbul. Fieldwork for this
project was originally planned for at least 8 years. Unfortunately,
however, my Turkish work permit was withdrawn suddenly in summer
2004. The Turkish authorities argued that I was "a danger to the
security of the Turkish Republic". But apart from a single use of
the word "Kurdistan" in a completely apolitical manner there was
no concrete accusation whatsoever against me. Unfortunately, the
Austrian government showed no interest at all in starting diplomatic
quarrels with the Turks because of this human rights violation
against an Austrian teacher.Therefore all my attempts to take legal
steps against this completely arbitrary verdict were undermined by
the Austrian authorities. In the end also my wife lost her job at the
Austrian school and we had to leave Turkey*

*The withdrawal of my working permit was an obvious violation of
articles 6 und 8 of the Human RightsConvention (right for a fair
trial, protection of the family) and the Agreement of Association
between Turkey and the EU. Nonetheless the Austrian education ministry
ordered my immediate transfer back to Austria,refusing any possibility
of objection. In addition the Austrian ministry of foreign affairs
did everything possible to hinder my defence against the Turkish
verdict. For form's sake the lawyer of the Austrian embassy in
Ankara was entrusted with my defence. But the man did not even write
a simple objection in time. In last minute I had to do everything by
myself, including translation works. Then at the crucial moment of
deciding over a suit against the Turkish authorities, I was forced
to renounce due to false informations from the ministry. Attempts
of the Austrian Television Company (ORF) to inform the public about
the affair were blocked. Only some monthslater, when my case already
had been discussed in the Austrian press, the ORF was allowed to
report; but thiswas done in a completely one-sided manner. Finally
the education ministrydirectly intervened, forbidding any further
information of the press. But the peak of hypocrisy was reached by
Dr. U.Plassnik, Austrian minister for foreign relations, when she
informed the public about her personal efforts to solve my case. As
far as I can judge,these efforts had been purely symbolic. Their
intention was to deceive the public over the previous nine month of
continuous sabotage byher own ministry.

With our return to Austria my botanical projects in Turkey came to
an abrupt end. Also this book could not be finished in the planned way.

A lot of species I would have liked to include could not be
photographed any more (e.g. Phelypaea tournefortii, Zelkova
carpinifolia). But nonetheless about 45% of the Turkish Flora could be
illustrated, making this photo guide by far the most comprehensive
one for Mediterranean, Black Sea and Irano-Turanian flora. As I
intended to keep the book within reasonable dimensions, text hat to
be limited to an absolute necessary minimum. Therefore no keys were
added. For non specialists they would be of a rather limited use,
whereas for scientific purposes they never could replace the use of
"Flora of Turkey".

The preparation of a book of this kind would have been completely
impossible without the continuous support of my wife Inge. In the first
years she was a most reliable and patient companion on my journeys to
the most remote corners of Anatolia. At this time we climbed together
a lot of the best known peaks of the country. After the birth of our
son Felix, she took by far the bigger part of parental obligations,
thus keeping me free for further work on the project.

Another crucial point was access to scientific literature. In Turkey
I was confronted with such a lot of bureaucratic obstacles that I
decided to do my literature studies whenever possible in Austria.

Most disappointing was the refusal of admitting loans, photocopies
or photos by the Istanbul office of WWF, which is in custody of a
rather interesting collection of local botanical literature.

The contrast to the generous and always friendly treatment by my
Austrian colleagues could not have been greater. Dr. G. Leute and Dr.

R. Eberwein, both botanists at the Karnter Landesherbar, gave me free
access to scientific literature in a completely unbureaucratic way.

The same is valid for the botanists at the Vienna Natural History
Museum, Dr. E. Vitek und Dr. B. Wallnofer as well as for Doz. Dr. F.

Speta (Biologiezentrum Linz). The latter also controlled my
identifications of Scilla and Ornithogalum and identified Ornithogalum
cydni, not included in Flora of Turkey. Mag. H.

Standhartinger (Linz) had the kindness to review the English text.

All of them I would like to thank for their help.

[Gavur]

A new low for freedom of speech in Turkey

Turkey has a pretty spotty record on freedom of speech, with prosecutions brought against people for mentioning the Armenian genocide, publishing political material in Kurdish, and showing "the traditional Kurdish region" on a map - but this week they have reached a new low. Kurdish politician Ahmet Turk has been jailed for six months on a charge of "supporting a criminal" for a speech he made in which he talked about jailed Kurdistan Workers Party leader Abdullah Ocalan. His crime? He called Ocalan "Mr". This was deemed to imply respect, and hence support - which given that Ocalan advocates peaceful Kurdish separatism, is practically treason in nationalist Turkey.

No matter what you think of Ocalan or his cause, this is ridiculous. Calling someone "Mr" - or conversely, failing to insult them every time you mention them - should not be any sort of crime. If Turkish law allows this, then the law has to go.

Posted by Idiot/Savant at 3/07/2007 05:36:00 PM http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2007...in-turkey.html

[Gavur]

Kurdish Politician In Turkey Sentenced To Six Months In Prison

KURDISH POLITICIAN IN TURKEY SENTENCED TO SIX MONTHS IN PRISON FOR REFERRING TO ABDULLAH OCALAN AS " MR. OCALAN"

http://sassnadzrer.blogspot.com/2007/03/kurdish-politician-in-turkey-sentenced.html

In yet the latest example of how the nuances of language can be used to silence and harass dissident voices in Turkey, we now read that Ahmet Turk, a leader of the pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party, has been sentenced by a court in Diyarbakir to six months imprisonment for referring to jailed Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan as "Mr. Ocalan."


The court stated that the prefix "Mr" implied respect for the leader of the Kurdish Workers' Party who is serving a life sentence of imprisonment after being found guilty of treason for leading a decades long armed struggle in Turkey's Kurdish regions.


A BBC report states that this is the second conviction for Mr. Turk in the past seven days. Last week he and another DTP official were sentenced to an eighteen months jail sentence for distributing party materials in the Kurdish language. Turkish law allows the distribution of political literature only in Turkish.


The Democratic Society Party , despite being a legitimate political body working for democratic and minority rights for Kurds in Turkey, claims to have been subjected to various forms of harassment in the lead-up to Turkish elections later this year.

[Gavur]

Turkey arrests 100 pro-Kurd women protesters

3/9/2007 MPT Online
Turkish authorities arrested Thursday about 100 women and brought charges against 31 for demonstrating in support of jailed Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan.

http://www.kurdmedia.com/news.asp?id=14193

The women, four of them under 18 years old and one as old as 77, had chanted pro-separatist slogans during an unauthorized demonstration on Wednesday in Sirnak province near the Syrian border in mainly Kurdish southeast Turkey, officials said.

[Gavur]

Turkish army invaded Northern Iraq

20.03.2007 18:49 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Turkish army invaded bordering regions of Nothern Iraq preparing a large scale operation against Kurdish gorillas, one of Iraqi internet web-sites close to Patriotic Union of Kurdistan reported on Thursday. “The Turkish army with large forces invaded Haftanin, Sineht and Pirbila districts in Northern Iraq, where armored equipment and “commandos” of Special Forces are stationed, Iraqi media reports. The Turkish general staff has not made any comments concerning this message, RIA “Novosti” reports.

Earlier in its parts Turkish media reported about transfer of a 20-thousand division to the border with Iraq. “Elements of Turkish armed forces created security zones along the border with Iraq in order to prevent penetration of terrorists of Workers’ Party of Kurdistan (PKK), CNN-Turk reports citing military sources.

The longstanding conflict of Turkey with PKK, which aims at establishing the so-called independent Kurdistan on Turkish territory, resulted in deaths of more than 37 000 people. Turkish authorities refuse to carry on a dialogue with separatists and are going to forcefully put an end to PKK.

[Joseph]

Interesting

I realize this happens in Germany quite often but I wonder if the violence is spreading between Turks and Kurds

Assyrian International News Agency

http://www.aina.org/news/20070401124201.htm

Turks, Kurds Clash in Brussels Neighborhood
Posted GMT 4-1-2007 17:42:1
BRUSSELS (AP) -- Police used a water-cannon to disperse crowds of ethnic Turks and Kurds who clashed Sunday after a Kurdish cafe in an immigrant neighborhood burned down.

Demonstrators hurled cobblestones and bottles at armored cars and troops in riot gear who moved in to separate two crowds of about 100 demonstrators in the neighborhood of Saint-Josse-ten-Noode, a short walk from the buildings housing European Union institutions.

No injuries or arrests were reported after the skirmishes, police said. The neighborhood remained under heavy surveillance.

The cafe, which also served as a community center, burned down overnight, and Kurds accused Turks of starting the fire, the VRT news network reported.

[Gavur]

YUP! Kurdish terrorists of Germany.