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  • #1

    A message to all

    To fellow Armenians:

    Please stop the anti-semitic comments. Your ancestors would have hoped and expected better from you. Your ancestors were pious, hardworking, very Christian villagers who wanted nothing more in life than for the following generations to prosper. They suffered so we could start new families and honor their sacrificies. You are smarter than your words give you credit for. Hating others or scapegoating others dishonors what they stood for. Remember, first and foremost, you are Christian before being Armenian. We have suffered and will suffer more because of this but that is our cross to bear.

    Just like any other people in world, there are good and bad and you cannot paint everyone with the same brush. There will never be heaven on earth and all these problems exist for a reason, perhaps as hard as the answers are to find, these situations are here to teach us lesson. It is fact of life that we are dominated by the kings of the earth; those with money, those with power, those that xxxxxle on the meek and little people for their own benefit or just because they can. Whether we like it or not, real-politik rules the day. The world is not perfect but one thing is for sure, all empires crumble, what is once powerful will someday end. All acts will be judged. Please remember this.

    At the same time, I think it's wondeful that many of you are nationalistic and obviously care about the Armenian cause. I would ask to try to seperate you nationalism from hatred of others. The main lesson we should take from the Genocide is to care about each other and not let it happen too our people again.


    To Turks:


    I've said this many times before, this is an Armenians Genocide forum set up by and for Armenians though it is true anybody can sign up. If you came here looking to insult or goad Armenians into arguements, you should find something else to do with your time. Every Armenian on this forum has varying views on history, politics, etc. There are many different opinions on many different topics related to the genocide and it would be impossible to look at this forum and use it to characterize all Armenians. We are but a few. But one thing we all believe in is the reality of the Christian Genocide (not just Armenian) that occured during WWI. You are not going to change or minds just like we will not change yours. Some Turks are here to learn and better understand and that is fine by me. Turks do not have a monopoly on Nationalism and do not expect us to agree with you on very many topics, most of our views are diametrically opposite.



    Thank you
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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  • #2
    Good

    A good message.

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    • #3
      Do tell us we are making everything up and it's just our imagination how COLLECTIVELY they are working against us, and while you're at it for good measure, pretend that we are blaming each and every single individual irregardless of their behavior and that we are going to go and beat up the old man from the bagel shop. Pfffffffffffftttttttttt.

      Get real. This kind of crap is pathetic.

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      • #4
        What kind of BS is this?

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        • #5
          Theyree bacccck!
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #6
            Joseph, I agree with your message, but there are only 1 or 2 anti-semites here, and they frequently get banned and come back under different names.

            Also, I think we should clarify that disagreeing with AIPAC policies and agenda alone does not make one an anti-semite, especially since AIPAC is an anti-Armenian organization.

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            • #7
              There are no anti-semites here. Some people are just angry with the jewish lobbies, major jewish organizations, jewish politicians, jewish historians, jewish writers and israel for denying the Armenian Genocide and that is not anti-semitism.

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              • #8
                Union of Armenians of Israel Successfully Functioning

                28.04.2006 21:13 GMT+04:00
                /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Union of Armenians of Israel, which is the member of the World Armenian Congress, was registered a year ago in Israel, director of the Tel Aviv Institute of Eastern Europe and CIS, Knesset member Alexander Tsinker told PanARMENIAN.Net reporter. According to him, the Union includes the Israeli citizens, natives of Armenia. “We have two organizations. One is “Ararat” and the other, “Nairi”, was formed by the natives of Gyumri. This year the day of Holocaust coincided with the Armenian Genocide and on April 24 we marked both dates. Recently we organized a concert of Armenian and Jewish songs. The organization also brings to Israel books and textbooks from Armenia. As a matter of fact the Armenian community in Israel is more numerous that the Jewish one in Armenia. Actually we have two communities – the church community in Jerusalem and the secular community in Tel Aviv and other towns,” Tsinker said.

                He also remarked that the term “Armenian complimentarism” is already used in Israel. “We closely examine the principles of the Armenian foreign policy. It’s interesting and can be useful,” Tsinker said.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  Israeli Ambassador Arthur Lenk: "Israel recognizes Azerbaijan's territorial integrity"

                  08 April 2006 [11:31] - Today.Az

                  Israeli Ambassador to Azerbaijan Arthur Lenk met with the students of Azerbaijani Nakhchivan State University (NSU) during his visit to Nakhchivan.

                  The University press service informs that after having familiarized with the University, the Israeli Ambassador delivered a report "Israel's policy of peace".

                  As APA reports, Mr.Lenk touched on Israel's struggle against the international terrorism, its peaceful policy and international strategy.

                  The ambassador stressed the importance of Azerbaijan establishing its diplomatic mission in Israel. He also underlined the importance of peaceful solution of the Armenia- Azerbaijan conflict and added that Israel recognizes the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan.

                  Responding to the questions of the students, the diplomat touched on strategic partnership, dialogue among civilizations as an expression of friendly relations between Israel and Azerbaijan.

                  The Israeli Ambassador also said he attaches importance on mutual cooperation in economy, telecommunication, and environment protection and in educational sphere as well. In the end, Mr.Lenk donated books titled "Facts about Israel" and "Israel on the horizon" to the University library.

                  URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/24923.html

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by phantom
                    Joseph, I agree with your message, but there are only 1 or 2 anti-semites here, and they frequently get banned and come back under different names.

                    Also, I think we should clarify that disagreeing with AIPAC policies and agenda alone does not make one an anti-semite, especially since AIPAC is an anti-Armenian organization.

                    Thanks. The Anti Defamation League and AIPAC are certainly working on behalf of the Turks but many of our best allies in Congress are Jewish as well as the most noted genocide scholars. Realpolitik is a fact of life and Armenians are going to have to continue to deal with it in a mature fashion. As long as Israel and Turkey are allies, they will help each other but things can always change.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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