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Armenian Jet crashes in Black Sea w/ 100 aboard

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Vogelgrippe
    Well, no matter how intensly we like to grab each other's throats, Turks and Armenians seem to share two common things: Plenty of accidents and natural disasters.

    Having worked in the aviation sector until 2003, I know pretty well that several Russian airports do not meet FAA or EAA requirements, but I know too little about this recent accident to blame xxxxy air control equipments.

    Another thing to notice is that most civil airline pilots (with the possible exception of Germany) happen to be former air force pilots, so they do not want to complain about air traffic control of civil airports, fearing that it would hurt their reputation as tough pilots. After all, they have been trained to land almost anywhere under any weather condition.

    Regardless of the reasons and causes, air crashes have a devastating effect on both the survivors and the relatives of the victims. I recently read that the survivors of January 2003 Turkish Airlines crash are still undergoing psychological treatment.

    Finally, and most importantly, may God have mercy upon the souls of the perished.

    Thank you V.G.
    Our condolances to their loved ones
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #12
      Update: 2006-05-03 13:03

      ARMENIAN DEFENCE MINISTER GOES TO SOCHI TO INVESTIGATE INTO CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE A-320 CRASH

      Yerevan, May 3. ArmInfo. Armenian President Robert Kocharyan held an extraordinary meeting in connection with the crash of Armavia's A-320 plane in Sochi.


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      Attending the meeting were Prime Minister Andranik Margaryan, Defence Minister Serzh Sargsyan, Territorial Administration Minister Hovik Abrahamyan, Prosecutor General Agvan Hovsepyan, Chief of Police Hayk Haroutyunyan, Chief of National Security Service Gorik Hakopyan, Head of Chief Department of Civil Aviation Artem Movsissyan.


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      The presidential press service says that Movsissyan reported to the president on the crash. Kocharyan instructed Defence Minister, Co-Chair of Armenian-Russian Inter-Governmental Commission Serzh Sargsyan to go to Sochi to inquire into the circumstances of the tragedy. A special commission led by Territorial Administration Minister Hovik Abrahamyan will bring the bodies of the victims to Armenia and will organize their funerals.


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      Prosecutor General Agvan Hovsepyan said that his office has instituted a criminal action. Earlier the prosecutor's office of Krasnodar region (Russia) instituted criminal proceedings according to article 263 of Russia's Criminal Code (violation of the rules of security during aircraft operation causing the death of two and more people).


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      To remind, Armavia's A-320 plane flying from Yerevan to Sochi crashed near Sochi 02:15 AM. 113 people (6 children) were onboard. 26 of them were Russian citizens, 1 woman was from Ukraine, the rest were Armenian citizens.


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      Armavia has opened a hot-line in Yerevan: (+37410) 28-63-56.


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      To remind, June 2005 100% of Armavia's shares were bought by President of Mika Armenia Trading Mikhail Bagdassarov. In 2005 Armavia's passenger turnover was 507,000 people against 380,000 in 2004. In 2004 the crashed A-320 was leased from Vermille International Services B.V.
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #13
        Russia Officials Investigate Plane Crash

        Russia Officials Investigate Plane Crash
        By MIKE ECKEL, Associated Press Writer
        15 minutes ago



        Boats laden with bodies and twisted metal sailed into the palm-fringed harbor of this popular Russian resort Wednesday, carrying the remains of some of the 113 people who died when an Armenian airliner smashed into the Black Sea.

        The plane went down about 2:15 a.m. in heavy rain and poor visibility as it was approaching the airport in Adler, about 12 miles south of this city wedged between the sea and soaring snowcapped mountains. Most of the dead were Armenians.

        "I've lost my sweetheart, my son!" Anait Bagusian, 50, wailed at Zvartnots Airport in the Armenian capital, Yerevan, from which the flight originated. Doctors hovered nearby because she swooned several times.

        Authorities were investigating the cause of the crash as divers attempted to retrieve the Airbus A-320's recorders from the deep, wave-chopped site about 3 1/2 miles offshore.

        A spokeswoman for the Prosecutor General's office, Nataliya Vishnyakova, dismissed the possibility of terrorism. Other officials pointed to the rough weather or pilot error as the likely cause. It is difficult even under normal conditions to land at the airport, which can be approached only from the sea.

        Boats battled stiff winds and heavy seas to try to recover bodies and fragments of the plane, which was leased by Armavia, Armenia's largest airline. By late afternoon, 46 bodies had been brought into the port and taken to morgues for identification.

        Outside one morgue, about 100 people stood grimly, rushing forward every time a truck carrying remains pulled up to the gates. "People want to know anything just now, anything," said 38-year-old Aryag Ghagosian, who said a friend's brother was on the flight

        "The women are all home crying. The men are all standing here waiting. What else can we do?" said a 47-year-old man who gave his name only as Misha, reflecting the wide distrust of authorities within Sochi's large Armenian community.

        He said his brother, sister-in-law and nephew had been aboard the plane, but he didn't know if their bodies were recovered. "They say they're identifying the bodies, but we're not learning anything," he complained.

        At Zvartnots Airport in Armenia, other relatives were in agony.

        Samvel Oganesian said his 23-year-old son, Vram, and his friend Hamlet Abgarian had been heading to Sochi for vacation.

        "Why did he go?" Oganesian asked in anguish, over and over again.

        Russian President Vladimir Putin and Armenian President Robert Kocharian declared Friday a day of mourning in both countries.

        The airline said 26 Russians, one Ukrainian and one Georgian were among the passengers, while the rest were Armenian citizens. But Interfax cited Armenian civil aviation spokesman Gayane Davtian as saying no Georgians or Ukrainians were aboard. The passengers included the airline's deputy general director, Vyacheslav Yaralov, the airline said.

        The plane broke up on impact, and passengers' personal belongings and plane fragments were found scattered over an area spreading a mile from the crash site.

        There were conflicting statements about the events leading to the crash.

        Emergency ministry spokesman Viktor Beltsov said the plane disappeared from radar screens while trying to make a repeat attempt at an emergency landing. However, Interfax quoted the Russian air control agency as saying the plane's crew had not declared any emergency.

        Armavia deputy commercial deputy Andrei Agadzhanov said in Yerevan that the crew had communicated with ground controllers while the plane was flying over the Georgian capital, Tbilisi. The ground controllers said the weather in Adler was poor but the plane could still land, Agadzhanov said. Just before the landing, however, the ground controllers told the crew to circle in the air again before approaching the airport and then it crashed.

        Agadzhanov said the crew was highly experienced, the airplane was in good condition and that weather conditions were "certainly" the cause. The plane was manufactured in 1995 and underwent full-scale servicing a year ago, he said. A statement from Airbus said the plane had logged more than 28,200 flight hours.

        Airlines in former Soviet countries wracked up a grisly record of crashes in the 1990s, following the whittling off of much of Soviet monopoly carrier Aeroflot into hundreds of regional airlines plagued by scant money, aging equipment and cavalier disregard for safety. They often flew badly overloaded. In an infamous 1994 case, 75 people were killed in a crash reportedly caused by the pilot's allowing his teenage son to take the controls.

        In recent years, crashes from equipment failure or pilot error have declined sharply.

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        AP reporters Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Sergei Venyavsky in Rostov-on-Don, Russia, contributed to this story.

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        • #14
          It Is Impossible To Find The Black Box

          Lragir.am
          03 May 06

          It is practically impossible to find the black box of the A-320 plane
          of Armavia Airlines, state the experts, working in the place of the
          crash. A-320, flying from Yerevan to Sochi, crashed on May 3 in the
          morning, near the city of Adler, 5 km from the coast of the Black
          Sea. The experts say the plane fell in a place where the bottom makes
          it impossible to find anything. Rudolf Teymurazov, the head of the
          center of air transport investigation, Interstate Aviation Committee,
          stated this. "I do not believe that it is possible to find anything
          on the bottom at one km from the coast," said Teymurazov. The work of
          the rescuers is made much difficult by the bad weather, as well as the
          depth. The depth of the sea in the place of the crash is 300-400 m,
          whereas the divers cannot go deeper than 200 m. However, the Russian
          Ministry of Emergencies says if necessity occurs, robots will be
          used, which can work at such a depth. Rescuing is carried out within
          a range of 2.5 km with the depth of the sea 500-2500 m. By half past
          two on May 3 the rescuers had found 46 bodies.
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #15
            The List Of Names Of The Passengers Of The Crashed Plane Publicized

            ArmRadio.am
            03.05.2006 14:20

            The list of names of the passengers of the "A-320" of the Armenian
            "Armavia" Company has been publicized.

            According t preliminary information, 77 of the passengers were citizens
            of Armenia, 26 were Russian citizens, there was one citizen of Ukraine
            and a Georgian citizen:

            1. Azatyan Albert
            2. Kostanyan Atom
            3. Manutoeva Elvina
            4. Khachatryan Beniamin
            5. Petrosyan Aram
            6. Srtlyan Ella
            7. Grigoryan Marine
            8. Badalyan Lusine
            9. Badalyan Armen
            10. Gevorgyan Ruben
            11. Dubrovin Alexey
            12. Menagarova Lyusya
            13. Gasparyan Sergey
            14. Harutyunyan Gyulnara
            15. Panoyan Elen
            16. Gdikyan Grigor
            17. Knyazyan Grigor
            18. Harutyunyan Husik
            19. Mkrtchyan Levon
            20. Sahakyan Lavrenti
            21. Arshakyan Varazdat
            22. Hovakimyan Hovik
            23. Tsatinyan Gevorg
            24. Torosyan Julieta
            25. Sackulyan Anatoli
            26. Chinoyan Aida
            27. Gyurekyan Mariam
            28. Hakobyan Seyran
            29. Mangasaryan Ararat
            30. Nalbandyan Silva
            31. Badoyan Manuk
            32. Badoyan Khachatur
            33. Kyureghyan Vagharsh
            34. Mamikonyan Sanasar
            35. Baghdasaryan Albert
            36. Khachatryan Anahit
            37. Mirzoyan Sasha
            38. Mirzoyan Elichka
            39. Manvelyan Askanas
            40. Khachatryan Marina
            41. Vahanyan Marina
            42. Tanakalyan Lyusya
            43. Manukyan Aharon
            44. Tadevosyan Silvard
            45. Malyan Gagik
            46. Piliposyan Mesrop
            47. Hakobyan Hayk
            48. Martirosyan Aram
            49. Harutyunyan Artak
            50. Harutyunyan Spartak
            51. Hamayakayan Stepan
            52. Malkhasyan Karapet
            53. Karapetyan Vahan
            54. Yebzimyan Nazar
            55. Poghosyan Ruzanna
            56. Yebzimyan Harutyun
            57. Kyulyan Marat
            58. Samsonyan Emma
            59. Paruryan Mayis
            60. Mkrtchyan Margar
            61. Petrosyan Ghumar
            62. Mkrtchyan Flora
            63. Martirosyan Manuk
            64. Avetisyan Albert
            65. Khalatyan Hamest
            66. Avagyan Khachatur
            67. Vardanyan Vardan
            68. Yaralov Vyacheslav
            69. Khalajyan Susanna
            70. Kondakchyan Albert
            71. Makhurov Karen
            72. Antonyan Hayrapet
            73. Karapetyan Varsenik
            74. Karapetyan Albert
            75. Avetisyan Meline
            76. Avetisyan Grisha
            77. Khachatryan Karo
            78. Kochinyan Artyom
            79. Galstyan Avik
            80. Ghazaryan Mariam
            81. Margaryan Arpine
            82. Meliksetyan Ashot
            83. Ghalechyan Arshak
            84. Tumasyan Arthur
            85. Hakobyan Zara
            86. Hambardzumyan Hm. (?)
            87. Balasanyan Rudik
            88. Hakobyan Aram
            89. Yerangulyan Vladimir
            90. Mkrtumyan Manyak
            91. Arakelyan Karine
            92. Mkrtchyan Margarit
            93. Sargsyan Gevorg
            94. Mkrtchyan Arthur
            95. Sevanyan Zemfira
            96. Malkhasyan Margarit
            97. Geranyan Abraham
            98. Zargaryan Zhora
            99. Abgaryan Hamlet
            100. Hovhannisyan Vram
            101. Danielyan Lusine
            102. Galstyan Hripsime
            103. Kirakosyan Armenuhi
            104. Injigulyan Eduard
            105. Yeghiazaryan Marine

            Skipper: Grigoryan Grisha
            Second Pilot: Davtyan Arman
            Technical Staff: Khachatryan Nikolay
            Stewardesses: Asatryan Marina, Gevorgyan Lusine, Abelyan Anaida
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Gavur
              Lragir.am
              03 May 06

              It is practically impossible to find the black box of the A-320 plane
              of Armavia Airlines, state the experts, working in the place of the
              crash. A-320, flying from Yerevan to Sochi, crashed on May 3 in the
              morning, near the city of Adler, 5 km from the coast of the Black
              Sea. The experts say the plane fell in a place where the bottom makes
              it impossible to find anything. Rudolf Teymurazov, the head of the
              center of air transport investigation, Interstate Aviation Committee,
              stated this. "I do not believe that it is possible to find anything
              on the bottom at one km from the coast," said Teymurazov. The work of
              the rescuers is made much difficult by the bad weather, as well as the
              depth. The depth of the sea in the place of the crash is 300-400 m,
              whereas the divers cannot go deeper than 200 m. However, the Russian
              Ministry of Emergencies says if necessity occurs, robots will be
              used, which can work at such a depth. Rescuing is carried out within
              a range of 2.5 km with the depth of the sea 500-2500 m. By half past
              two on May 3 the rescuers had found 46 bodies.
              I think it's suspicious that they're ruling out finding the box because of the depth, when in the same breath they're saying that robots can be used at that depth...

              Russians refused their requests for an emergency landing, maybe there is more to the story that they don't want to be discovered

              What a tragedy... God rest their souls, and give peace to the souls of their families...

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              • #17
                Turkmen President Sent Condolence Letter to Armenian Leader

                04.05.2006 19:10 GMT+04:00
                /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Turkmen President Saparmurad Niyazov has sent condolence letter to Armenian leader Robert Kocharian owing to the air crash of A-320 liner of Armavia air company over the Black Sea past night, reports the Press Service of the Turkmen Embassy in Armenia.

                «I present my deep condolence with you on the tragic catastrophe of A-320 liner over the Black Sea, which entailed numerous human victims. I wish you strong spirit and courage, asking to convey my words of frank sympathy to all relatives and friends of the victims,» says the message of the Turkmen leader.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #18
                  Friendship and Cooperation with Armenia Association Condoled on Air Crash

                  Friendship and Cooperation with Armenia Association Condoled on Air Crash
                  04.05.2006 19:01 GMT+04:00
                  /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Association of Friendship and Cooperation with Armenia (Russia) has sent condolences over the air crash in Sochi to Russian and Armenian Presidents. The message, signed by Association President Victor Krivopuskov, that was received by PanARMENIAN.Net, says, «Dear Mr. Putin and Mr. Kocharian. Along with you we are shocked with the news on tragic death of passengers of Yerevan-Sochi flight – citizens of our fraternal countries. We frankly sympathize and condole with relatives and friends and we mourn with you.»
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #19
                    George Bush Condoled on A-320 Crash

                    04.05.2006 18:37 GMT+04:00
                    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Administration of US President George Bush condoled with relatives of the victims of the crash of A-320 airplane. «We express our frank condolence with peoples of Armenia and Russia, as well as the families of those, who died in the crash of Armavia air company flight from Yerevan to the south of Russia,» the White House statement says.
                    "All truth passes through three stages:
                    First, it is ridiculed;
                    Second, it is violently opposed; and
                    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                    • #20
                      Remains of Armenian plane crash victims to be taken to Yerevan

                      11:23 | 04/ 05/ 2006



                      SOCHI, May 4 (RIA Novosti) - The remains of the victims of a fatal plane crash over the Black Sea will be flown Thursday to the Armenian capital, Yerevan, Russia's transportation minister said.

                      "We plan to take the remains of the dead to their homeland, Yerevan, around 3 p.m. Moscow time [11 a.m. GMT] by a plane provided by the Emergency Situations Ministry," Igor Levitin said.

                      He added that 20 out of at least 48 recovered bodies had been already identified.

                      An Airbus A-320 belonging to Armenia's Armavia Airlines flying from the country's capital, Yerevan, crashed about six kilometers from the Russian coast en route to an airport in Adler, which services the resort of Sochi. Eight crewmembers and 105 passengers were on board.
                      "All truth passes through three stages:
                      First, it is ridiculed;
                      Second, it is violently opposed; and
                      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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