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The Pontian Genocide 1916-1923

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  • #21
    Thank you Evropeos!
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #22
      ANCA joins with Assyrians and Greeks in seeking justice for Turkey’s genocidal crimes


      21.05.2007 15:43 GMT+04:00

      /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) joins with Pontian Greeks - and all Hellenes around the world - in commemorating May 19th, the international day of remembrance for the genocide initiated by the Ottoman Empire and continued by Kemalist Turkey against the historic Greek population of Pontus along the southeastern coast of the Black Sea, the ANCA reports.

      "We join with the Hellenic American community in solemn remembrance of the Pontian Genocide, and in reaffirming our determination to work together with all the victims of Turkey’s atrocities to secure full recognition and justice for these crimes," said Aram Hamparian, Executive Director of the ANCA.

      The Pontian Genocide has been formally acknowledged by Greece and Cyprus and, within the United States, by the states of New York, New Jersey, Florida, South Carolina, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Illinois, among others.

      The Ottoman Empire, under the cover of World War I, undertook a systematic and deliberate effort to eliminate its minority Christian populations. This genocidal campaign resulted in the death and deportation of well over 2,000,000 Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks.

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      • #23
        Video

        Video-A Reportage About Greek Speakers In Pontus


        Date: 03.01.2006

        Sorry its in Greek.

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        • #24
          Awesome series of posts - great info - thanks!

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          • #25
            Turkish Response

            Turkey upset with Greek gov't presence in alleged genocide protest
            Tuesday, May 22, 2007

            FULYA ÖZERKAN
            ANKARA – Turkish Daily News

            Turkey has taken the initiative and warned Greek government authorities in the wake of high-level participation in commemorations for Anatolian Greeks over the weekend, which Athens claims were victims of genocide at the beginning of the last century, diplomatic sources told the Turkish Daily News.
            “We have taken necessary measures and delivered a note to Greek authorities,” said sources from the Turkish Embassy in Greece. On Saturday, top Greek officials joined in commemorations in Thessalonica, an indicator of systematic efforts to bring the Greek Pontus genocide allegations onto the international agenda.

            Over 1,000 demonstrators first joined a ceremony at the church and then gathered in front of the “Pontus Genocide Monument,” chanting slogans and urging Turkey to recognize the claims and offer an apology. A large number of Greek officials including the Greek deputy foreign minister, the deputy economy minister, as well as members of the European Parliament participated in the ceremony, the same sources told the TDN. In a separate protest in Athens, Greek demonstrators marched to the Turkish Embassy and delivered a declaration calling for the international recognition of the alleged genocide. In light of a parliamentary resolution, the Greek Interior Ministry organizes the commemoration ceremony every year, calling on various authorities to facilitate the activities that start in the church, continue with protests in front of the monument and end with a protest march to the Turkish Embassy and the consulate.

            Greece claims that between 1916 and 1923 the Greek Orthodox population then living in the eastern Black Sea region of Turkey fell victim to a systematic policy of extermination initiated by the Turkish authorities of the day and that those who were able to escape did so by taking refuge in Greece. The Greek parliament adopted May 19 as the “Day for Commemorating the Turkish Genocide Against the Pontus Greeks” in 1994
            General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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            • #26
              Turkish Response 2



              Armenians join Greeks in ‘genocide’ protest


              Armenians in the United States have announced their backing for Greek allegations of a genocide in Anatolia during the World War I years.

              One of the most influential Armenian groups in the United States, the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA), said it had joined with Greeks in commemorating the alleged genocide on May 19, the very same date when Kemal Atatürk, founder of the Turkish Republic, began a national war of independence against the invading Western powers.
              "We join with the Hellenic American community in solemn remembrance of the Pontian Genocide, and in reaffirming our determination to work together with all the victims of Turkey's atrocities to secure full recognition and justice for these crimes," Aram Hamparian, executive director of the ANCA, was quoted as saying by the PanArmenian Internet site.

              Governor, local mayors and politicians joined a ceremony marked to commemorate the alleged "Pontian Genocide" in Anatolia and Thessaloniki, Greece, on May 19. A similar ceremony was also held later in the Greek capital of Athens. Demonstrators demanded Turkish recognition of the charges that some 350,000 Greeks were massacred in Anatolia.

              The Greek Parliament approved a decision in 1994 to declare May 19 as the day to commemorate the "Pontian Genocide," and Ankara suspects the Greek government is pursuing systematic efforts to win international recognition for the allegations.


              22.05.2007

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              General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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              • #27
                Turkish Response 2



                Armenians join Greeks in ‘genocide’ protest


                Armenians in the United States have announced their backing for Greek allegations of a genocide in Anatolia during the World War I years.

                One of the most influential Armenian groups in the United States, the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA), said it had joined with Greeks in commemorating the alleged genocide on May 19, the very same date when Kemal Atatürk, founder of the Turkish Republic, began a national war of independence against the invading Western powers.
                "We join with the Hellenic American community in solemn remembrance of the Pontian Genocide, and in reaffirming our determination to work together with all the victims of Turkey's atrocities to secure full recognition and justice for these crimes," Aram Hamparian, executive director of the ANCA, was quoted as saying by the PanArmenian Internet site.

                Governor, local mayors and politicians joined a ceremony marked to commemorate the alleged "Pontian Genocide" in Anatolia and Thessaloniki, Greece, on May 19. A similar ceremony was also held later in the Greek capital of Athens. Demonstrators demanded Turkish recognition of the charges that some 350,000 Greeks were massacred in Anatolia.

                The Greek Parliament approved a decision in 1994 to declare May 19 as the day to commemorate the "Pontian Genocide," and Ankara suspects the Greek government is pursuing systematic efforts to win international recognition for the allegations.


                22.05.2007

                Today's Zaman İstanbul
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                General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                • #28
                  Athens dismisses Ankara quip on Pontian genocide


                  "History can neither be falsified or rewritten," Greek foreign ministry spokesman George Koumoutsakos stressed on Thursday in his reply to Turkish foreign ministry statements disputing that a genocide of Pontian (Black Sea region) Greeks had taken place in the first quarter of the 20th century.

                  "History cannot be written off. It cannot be rewritten. It cannot be falsified. Nor can it, of course, be the victim of domestic political rivalry and expediency," Koumoutsakos underlined.

                  The spokesman stressed that Greece "respected history but also had its gaze turned on the future" and thus wanted "full normalisation" of its relations with Turkey, for the sake of stability and development on a bilateral and regional level.

                  "Stability and development that only full respect of good neighbourly relations can ensure," he added.

                  According to a Turkish foreign ministry statement, claims that Greeks living for centuries along the shores of the southern Black Sea in Anatolia had been the victims of genocide at the hands of Turkish authorities and irregulars in the early 20th century had "no historical and scientific basis".

                  The Turkish foreign ministry also criticised a law passed by the Greek Parliament in 1994 establishing May 19 as a day of memory of the Pontian genocide, saying that it targeted the founder of the modern Turkish state, Kemal Ataturk.

                  Caption: ANA-MPA file photo of Koumoutsakos.

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                  • #29
                    Pontos movie debuts in Australia


                    A young third generation Greek-Australian of Pontian heritage, Peter Stefanidis has collaborated with a group of very fine actors to bring to the world the message of the Pontian Genocide. In a short 10 min film - with some additional minutes allocated for the creation of the film - there is now at least a media outlet for individuals to learn more about this important historical time period for the Greek nation.

                    A special screening was held in Australia on June 17th for the release of the film. To see the movie reel, click below.


                    Click Here To See The Pontos Movie Trailer


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                    • #30
                      I believe that Armenian Genocide, Greek Genocide, Assyrian Genocide are in fact one: The Christian Anatolia Genocide.
                      Its not coincidence that all about at the same time started being deported and killed and exiled in deserts. The greeks of Pontos suffered the same with armenians. The reason that armenian victims were more is that they had more populations in the area that the turks targeted.
                      The reason ,generally that the armenians suffered more is just because of the geographical area that they lived.
                      These genocides had nothing to do with ethnicity or race but only about religion. The young turks targeted the christians of the empire since they were clear threat to 'her' lands.

                      Turks try to persuade the international community that the armenians and greeks were punished for ''their'' ''revolts''.
                      But what about the arabs that really did revolts? Why turkey didn't ''relocate'' them?
                      The answer is simple: The arabs were muslims: no threat at all. Turks didn't plan a deportation for arabs and the arabs really revolted.

                      All ''events'' from 1914 to 1923 were part of this genocidal program planned from young turks ,with clear aim to make turkey land of exclusively turks. These events shall be called ''Christian Genocide in Anatolia from turks''. Turkey continues this genocide even now, by suppressing the small christian minorities left in turkey and mainly by the denial that this genocide even happened. Moreover Turkey has a new agenda of Cultural Genocide of kurds, laz ,georgian ,bosnian, and other muslims that are not turks in origins. All this that is called now turkish nation is nothing else than the turkish-speaking muslims that Kemal gathered and gave them a name.


                      Turkey pretends that all these were random events ,caused by rebellions, turkey even pretends that Turkey was always the land of turks, that the christians just disappeared from 1071 to 1914 ,and that has no responsibility about them.
                      If someone , studies these ''events'' ,about what happened in anatolia from 1914-1923 ,he will understand that this was not war, not masscares, not mutual genocide but a great genocide of the christians of turkey that ended with the terrorist Mustafa Kemal 'Ataturk'. Its not coincidence that all christians suffered, exiled and killed. It was planned, it was genocide, it was annihilation.

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