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  • #11
    Hmmm, hmmm, yes, it appears I overestimated our opposition.

    Point still stands, though, that this MSNBC straw poll is a load of crap.

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    • #12
      It wasnt about a contest of popularity through media as to who is going to come out looking better.It was about the position of our principals that made it loud and clear that our AG history is not cotastable, and that we were able to establish thanks to everyones efforts.
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #13
        Alright, I deleted the last posts for obvious reasons. If anyone wants to continue discussing the poll or the panel discussion fine, keep on topic and keep it clean...

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Gavur
          It wasnt about a contest of popularity through media as to who is going to come out looking better.It was about the position of our principals that made it loud and clear that our AG history is not cotastable, and that we were able to establish thanks to everyones efforts.
          What you're saying in pure nonsense. Why can't you just admit like the others did that Sadarapat was right? What transpired, namely the turks falling on their faces then, and in ANY debate, is something entirely predictable.

          He's got foresight. I was also originally against it for short period but then heard through the grapevine prior to its airing what actually transpired.

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          • #15
            keep ypur powder dry my boy
            You'll get your chance.
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #16
              I think Gavur has a point that on matter of principle it is insulting to think we need to accept challenges and explain ourselves every time we present our history.

              But the panel discussion was so successful and such a defeat for denialists that in retrospect I'm glad we had it.

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              • #17
                And thats besides the point yeah were happy but its kinda like a cheap thrill.
                Its on our principles that this fight will survive and we made that loud and clear to anyone thats even contemplating giving a forum to professional deniers.
                That in my opinion was our victory not talking faster then couple of idiots
                that were outside of their elements.
                Making and setting positive precedents in this war is of the essence it must be executed like a chess game You dont take the pawn they give you if it means risking your horse.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #18
                  Good points, Gavur.

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