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  • Steph
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    Originally posted by Evropeos View Post
    Ethnic Armenian sir Ara Darzi appointed Minister of Healthcare of Great Britain





    05.07.2007 15:11 GMT+04:00

    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Prime Minister of Great Britain has appointed practicing surgeon Ara Darzi (Terzian) as Minister of Healthcare.

    I would love to visit and do something constructive in Armenia. I have not had the chance until now, b All I need is the right opportunity, he said.

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    How about those legal minimum 20 days holidays (4 weeks) per year plus 8 national days?

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  • Evropeos
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    Ethnic Armenian sir Ara Darzi appointed Minister of Healthcare of Great Britain





    05.07.2007 15:11 GMT+04:00

    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Prime Minister of Great Britain has appointed practicing surgeon Ara Darzi (Terzian) as Minister of Healthcare. Ara Darzi was born in Iraq in a family with Armenian descent, which escaped the Genocide of 1915. But the greater part of his life he has spent in Ireland, independent French journalist Jean Eckian told the PanARMENIAN.Net. His father, the son of a Genocide survivor Vartkes Darzi settled in Dublin, in a city which did not even have an Armenian community. He has raised his son as an Armenian.

    Ara Darzi himself remains greatly interested in Armenian issues. In a recent interview, Dr. Darzi said he must add his knowledge about Armenia. I would love to visit and do something constructive in Armenia. I have not had the chance until now, but I hope to get more involved in the coming years. I want to go to my roots. I have served in many countries around the world. Why not also Armenia? I would like to volunteer and even take some essential equipment to Armenia to train other doctors there. All I need is the right opportunity, he said.

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  • Joseph
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    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    Turkish politicians cannot say that they will make the country more Islamic. Some of them may have desires to make it so, but if they say it in public they will be off to prison!
    Turn east just means pan-Turanic.
    What I meant to say is exactly waht you wrote above. Their attitude is the following: "if we don't get in the EU, the Turkish people may turn more islamic and we would be in danger of becoming like Iran and our secular republic will be destroyed" yada yada. The turn towards the east (closer relations to Russia and the Turkic Republics) is one I also read ad nauseum.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    In April I was talking to a guy who was involved in the census for Van, and he was saying that the official population was around 300,000 but the real population was closer to a million. I think he was exagerating a bit for effect - but even if it were only 600,000 that is still a huge difference.
    Van: average family size 7.5

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
    I've read that many times, the Turkish editorialists, politicians, etc basicaly telling the Western public that Turkey may need to turn east and will perhaps become more islamic if they are rejected from the EU. As if it is the European responsibilty to keep Turkey from becominga basket case and more of a pariah.
    Turkish politicians cannot say that they will make the country more Islamic. Some of them may have desires to make it so, but if they say it in public they will be off to prison!
    Turn east just means pan-Turanic.

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  • Joseph
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    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    The Turks don't threaten that. They threaten to become more pan-Turkic, more nationalistic, more insular, and more of a go-it-alone and to-hell-with-anyone-elses-opinions regional superpower. (The last shows how unreal Turkey's dislike of America is - Turkey want to be just like America!! )

    But true, it is all still like cutting off your nose to spite you face.
    I've read that many times, the Turkish editorialists, politicians, etc basicaly telling the Western public that Turkey may need to turn east and will perhaps become more islamic if they are rejected from the EU. As if it is the European responsibilty to keep Turkey from becominga basket case and more of a pariah.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
    That pretty much sums it up. It gets ridiculous when the Turks make threats to become more islamic if they are rejected by the EU. Like cutting off your nose to spite you face.
    The Turks don't threaten that. They threaten to become more pan-Turkic, more nationalistic, more insular, and more of a go-it-alone and to-hell-with-anyone-elses-opinions regional superpower. (The last shows how unreal Turkey's dislike of America is - Turkey want to be just like America!! )

    But true, it is all still like cutting off your nose to spite you face.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by Jade View Post
    LoL I love the image - I suppose you have a point...I think there cannot be 'right' or 'wrong' decisions concerning Turkey's entrance because both sides have negative and positive aspects that should be considered...Its a typical double trouble; large and ISLAMIC country...
    Maybe not back home in time for dinner, but certainly back home before midnight!

    Large is a legitimate reason, and the one that is mentioned most. Islamic is of course not a legitimate reason - but the only ones who seem to mention it are those who are pro-Turkey's entry. The current Muslim population of Europe are probably far more "Muslim" that most Turks!

    Turkey's over-population problem is going to be a serious problem for Turkey regardless of the EU outcome. I've heard that the real population of Turkey is well over 100 million. In April I was talking to a guy who was involved in the census for Van, and he was saying that the official population was around 300,000 but the real population was closer to a million. I think he was exagerating a bit for effect - but even if it were only 600,000 that is still a huge difference.

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  • Joseph
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    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    The BBC is pro-EU and pro-EU enlargement. It's typical scare tactics - we must let Turkey in because it is so awfully impolite of us not to; we must let Turkey in because anyone who says otherwise is clearly a ranting racist bigot; we must let Turkey in or Turkey will suddenly become a crazy Islamic fundamentalist state that will do very bad things to us.
    As for Turkish anti-Americanism, it is of no more significance than a teenager throwing a moody tantrum, storming out, getting an explicit tattoo, but still being back home in time for dinner. That is the limit of the rebellion and the limit of its intellectual content.
    That pretty much sums it up. It gets ridiculous when the Turks make threats to become more islamic if they are rejected by the EU. Like cutting off your nose to spite you face.

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  • Jade
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    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    The BBC is pro-EU and pro-EU enlargement. It's typical scare tactics - we must let Turkey in because it is so awfully impolite of us not to; we must let Turkey in because anyone who says otherwise is clearly a ranting racist bigot; we must let Turkey in or Turkey will suddenly become a crazy Islamic fundamentalist state that will do very bad things to us.
    As for Turkish anti-Americanism, it is of no more significance than a teenager throwing a moody tantrum, storming out, getting an explicit tattoo, but still being back home in time for dinner. That is the limit of the rebellion and the limit of its intellectual content.
    LoL I love the image - I suppose you have a point...I think there cannot be 'right' or 'wrong' decisions concerning Turkey's entrance because both sides have negative and positive aspects that should be considered...Its a typical double trouble; large and ISLAMIC country...

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