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  • Neocon commentator Richard Cohen Genocide denier

    This is the most eggregious (and multiply uninformed and/or intentionally misleading) commentary yet (no suprise):

    Turkey's War on the Truth

    By Richard Cohen
    Tuesday, October 16, 2007; A19



    It goes without saying that the House resolution condemning Turkey for the "genocide" of Armenians from 1915 to 1923 will serve no earthly purpose and that it will, to say the least, complicate if not severely strain U.S.-Turkey relations. It goes without saying, also, that the Turks are extremely sensitive on the topic and, since they are helpful in the war in Iraq and are a friend to Israel, that their feelings ought to be taken into account. All of this is true, but I would feel a lot better about condemning this resolution if the argument wasn't so much about how we need Turkey and not at all about the truthfulness of the matter.

    Of even that, I have some doubt. The congressional resolution repeatedly employs the word "genocide," a term used by many scholars. But Raphael Lemkin, the Polish-Jewish emigre who coined the term in 1943, clearly had in mind what the Nazis were doing to the Jews. If that is the standard -- and it need not be -- then what happened in the collapsing Ottoman Empire was something short of genocide. It was plenty bad -- maybe as many as 1.5 million Armenians perished, many of them outright murdered -- but not all Armenians everywhere in what was then Turkey were as calamitously affected. The substantial Armenian communities in Constantinople, Smyrna and Aleppo were largely spared. No German city could make that statement about its Jews.

    Still, by any name, what was begun in 1915 is unforgivable and, one hopes, unforgettable. Yet it was done by a government that no longer exists -- the so-called Sublime Porte of the Ottomans, with its sultan, concubines, eunuchs and the rest. Even in 1915, it was an anachronism, no longer able to administer its vast territory -- much of the Middle East and the Balkans. The empire was crumbling. The so-called Sick Man of Europe was breathing its last. Its troops were starving, and, both in Europe and the Middle East, indigenous peoples were declaring their independence and rising in rebellion. Among them were the Armenians, an ancient people who had been among the first to adopt Christianity. By the end of the 19th century, they were engaged in guerrilla activity. By World War I, they were aiding Turkey's enemy, Russia. Within Turkey, Armenians were feared as a fifth column.

    So contemporary Turkey is entitled to insist that things are not so simple. If you use the word genocide, it suggests the Holocaust -- and that is not what happened in the Ottoman Empire. But Turkey has gone beyond mere quibbling with a word. It has taken issue with the facts and in ways that cannot be condoned. Its most famous writer, the Nobel Prize-winning novelist Orhan Pamuk, was arrested in 2005 for acknowledging the mass killing of Armenians. The charges were subsequently dropped, and although Turkish law has been modified in some ways, it nevertheless remains dangerous business for a Turk to talk openly and candidly about what happened in 1915.

    It just so happens that I am an admirer of Turkey. Its modern leaders, beginning with the truly remarkable Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, have done a Herculean job of bringing the country from medievalism to modernity without, it should be noted, the usual bloodbath. (The Russians, for instance, did not manage that feat.) Furthermore, I can appreciate Turkey's palpable desire to embrace both modernity and Islam and to show that such a combination is not oxymoronic. (Ironically, having a dose of genocide in your past -- the United States and the Indians, Germany and the Jews, etc. -- is hardly "not Western.") And I think, furthermore, that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should have spiked the House resolution in deference to Turkey's immense strategic importance to the United States. She's the speaker now, for crying out loud, not just another House member.

    But for too long the Turks have been accustomed to muscling the truth, insisting either through threats or punishment that they and they alone will write the history of what happened in 1915. They are continuing along this path now, with much of official Ankara threatening this or that -- crossing into Iraqi Kurdistan, for instance -- if the House resolution is not killed. But it may yet occur to someone in the government that Turkey's tantrums have turned an obscure -- nonbinding! -- congressional resolution into yet another round of tutorials on the Armenian tragedy of 1915. Call it genocide or call it something else, but there is only one thing to call Turkey's insistence that it and its power will determine the truth: unacceptable.

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    The claim that the Armenian communities in Constantinople and Smyrna were spared strikes me as incorrect. Can anyone provide a cite backing me? I've seen this claim several times recently. I had thought the Turks went after every Armenian living in the Ottoman Empire, even the non-Turkish regions, such as Syria.

    As for the claim that Kemal Pasha did "a Herculean job of bringing the country from medievalism to modernity without, it should be noted, the usual bloodbath," the Genocide itself was the required bloodbath. Attaturk was part of the CUP and bought into its belief that exterminating the Armenians was an indispensable predicate to establishing the modern Turkish state.

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    • #3
      Armenians in Smyrna and Constantinople were not "deported" (killed) in large numbers - but there were roundups and killings (and of course Armenian community in Smyrna was decimated in the massacres and fire of 1923 caused by the kemalist forces). CUP wanted to clear these cities of Armenians but foriegn pressure (presence of foreign dignitaries and press who would report on the actions - thus destrying Turkish denials) prevented it - and the Germans (who were essentially in charge of the military effort and held great sway over the Turks) specifically prevented it and reprimanded the orders to do so. This claim of Cohen's is additionally spurious when one realizes that substansial numbers of Jews were spared/were not directly killed by the Germans in various places including in parts of Vichy France, Italy (only 8,000 Jews were "taken" from Italy during the war - and in Hungary - a nation more or less entirely under control of the Germans - where a community of 800,000 Jews was untouched by the Germans. Additionally, when one realizes that by the years after WWI only 10,000 Armenians remained in all of Anatolia out of a pre-war population of over 2 Million - that the genocidal devastation that the Turks inflicted on the Armenian nation/population of Anatolia in WWI actually exheeded - as a whole (though not for specific areas of Germany and Poland) the destruction of the Jewish communities of Europe in WWII. When we look at the aftermath of each war and the conditions of the communities since one can easily see that the Armenians suffered the greater total loss. And as well it can be argued that for every German genocidal act (method) perpetuated against the Jews - a precedent exits for the Turks upon the Armenians. Additionally we are aware that Lemkin began work on the defination of and pursuit of international legal ramifications for the crimes of genocide prior to WWII and prior to the Holocaust and his motivation and blueprint for the crime of genocide was specifically the Armenian case and the fact that the Turks who pupetrated it went unpunished. Furthermore - Ataturk's (The Turkish ruling nation's)bloodbath not only included the complete decimation of the Christian communities within Anatolia (Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians - to the tune of 2-2.5 million killed in a period of a few short years) but also inlcuded further supression of the Kurdish people - including massacres and destruction of towns, villages and socio-political infrastructure and these actions continue into the present day. These comments only touch upon some of the many innacuracies and misportrayals of Cohen's pathetic and diservicing commentary.

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      • #4
        Thanks!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hans Fastolfe View Post
          The claim that the Armenian communities in Constantinople and Smyrna were spared strikes me as incorrect. Can anyone provide a cite backing me? I've seen this claim several times recently. I had thought the Turks went after every Armenian living in the Ottoman Empire, even the non-Turkish regions, such as Syria.

          As for the claim that Kemal Pasha did "a Herculean job of bringing the country from medievalism to modernity without, it should be noted, the usual bloodbath," the Genocide itself was the required bloodbath. Attaturk was part of the CUP and bought into its belief that exterminating the Armenians was an indispensable predicate to establishing the modern Turkish state.
          There are no Armenians at all living in Smyrna today. And there are maybe only 30,000 / 40,000 Armenians living in Istanbul today. Just as Germany didn't attempt to destroy all the Jews living in territory it controlled all at the one time, neither did the Ottoman Empire or its successor state, the Turkish Republic do all its killing in just 1915. Does that answer it.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by 1.5 million View Post
            by the years after WWI only 10,000 Armenians remained in all of Anatolia out of a pre-war population of over 2 Million.
            Not correct.
            Multiply it by 30 and you will be nearer the mark.
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            • #7
              Just the orphans exceed it 10k I think.
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                Just the orphans exceed it 10k I think.
                There were 10,000 orphans in the Alexandropol/Gyumri orphanages alone.
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