STOP to EU Membership of this Genocidal Turkey

[Helen]

STOP
to EU Membership of this Genocidal Turkey

Pan-European Demonstration
Friday, 14 December 2007
Place du Cinquantenaire, Brusselles, Starting at 9 :30a.m.


On Friday, December 14, the leaders of the 27 EU member states will discuss Turkey's EU membership at the European Council summit.

Under pressure from Turkey, all reference to the Armenian Genocide has been removed from the negotiation process. The struggle between the Turkish government and the Armenian Cause (Hai Dat) advocates continues.

For us to win in that struggle, we have to mobilize on all fronts: political, diplomatic, public relations and popular.

On Friday, December 14, we have to demonstrate our strength.

On Friday, December 14, we should force the European Council to face its responsibility.

On Friday, December 14, the leaders of Europe's 27 states ought to express their opinions on the suitability of Turkey to enter Europe.

On Friday, December 14, the Armenians of Europe will go to Brussels to say «STOP» to this Turkey's entry into Europe.

Every occasion should be utilized. No one else will struggle on our behalf.

http://manifbruxelles2007.skyrock.com/

[aTilla]

EU opens new chapters in Turkish talks

Wednesday, December 19, 2007

BRUSSELS - AFP

The European Union agreed Monday to open two more of the 35 negotiating chapters that Turkey must complete to join the bloc this week, the EU's Portuguese presidency said.

The two chapters – "Trans-European Networks" and "Consumer and Health Protection" – will officially be opened this morning in the presence of Turkish and EU officials.

The move was made possible by the creation last week of a "reflection group" on the future of Europe. France had insisted that the committee be set up as a condition for not blocking Turkey's progress on the talks.

Since Turkey began its accession talks in October 2005, only four of the 35 chapters – each relating to different policy areas – have been opened. Eight were frozen a year ago in response to Ankara's refusal to open its ports and airports to vessels and aircraft from EU member state Cyprus, with which it has a long-standing dispute over the northern third of the divided island. Turkey's talks are expected to last at least a decade, with no guarantee of membership at the end of it all.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=91678

[Joseph]

EU opens new chapters in Turkish talks

Wednesday, December 19, 2007

BRUSSELS - AFP

The European Union agreed Monday to open two more of the 35 negotiating chapters that Turkey must complete to join the bloc this week, the EU's Portuguese presidency said.

The two chapters – "Trans-European Networks" and "Consumer and Health Protection" – will officially be opened this morning in the presence of Turkish and EU officials.

The move was made possible by the creation last week of a "reflection group" on the future of Europe. France had insisted that the committee be set up as a condition for not blocking Turkey's progress on the talks.

Since Turkey began its accession talks in October 2005, only four of the 35 chapters – each relating to different policy areas – have been opened. Eight were frozen a year ago in response to Ankara's refusal to open its ports and airports to vessels and aircraft from EU member state Cyprus, with which it has a long-standing dispute over the northern third of the divided island. Turkey's talks are expected to last at least a decade, with no guarantee of membership at the end of it all.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/a...?enewsid=91678

From a pretty good source I know in Austria, he claims it will take at least another 30 years to EU membership.. if it all. Europeans view Turkey as entirely too nationalist and that Turks require significantly more time to liberalize...and even mellow out.

[aTilla]

From a pretty good source I know in Austria, he claims it will take at least another 30 years to EU membership.. if it all. Europeans view Turkey is entirely too nationalist and that Turks require significantly more time to liberalize...and even mellow out.

More Turks are against Turkey's EU membership then any country within the EU.

[chinchilla]

More Turks are against Turkey's EU membership then any country within the EU.

I think the majority of the people still want to join (even those who say they are against membership).

[Gavur]

More Turks are against Turkey's EU membership then any country within the EU.

Thats a start , one must know where they don't belong.

[aTilla]

Pöttering: No Armenia condition for Turkey

The European Parliament wants Turkey to "face its past" but will not ask it to recognize Armenian claims of genocide at the hands of the Ottoman Empire to become a member of the European Union, the parliament's German President Hansgert Pöttering reiterated yesterday.

"We have told Turkey that it should recognize its historical responsibilities. We cannot go beyond that," he told reporters at a press conference in Brussels, on the sidelines of an EU summit. He said history could teach people lessons to prevent the repetition of tragic past events, adding that a process of moral and mental digestion should be completed for this first.

Turkey categorically rejects Armenian charges that Armenians were killed in a systematic genocide campaign during the World War I years in eastern Anatolia and says as many Muslims died in the course of a civil strife, when Armenians took up arms and revolted against the Ottoman Empire in collaboration with the invading Russian army in hopes of creating an Armenian state in part of eastern Anatolia. The Turkish government has proposed formation of a joint group of historians from Turkey and Armenia to study the history, but Armenia has declined to take the offer.

When EU leaders were holding their one-day summit in Brussels, a group of some 400 Armenians gathered for a protest near the summit hall against Turkey's accession to the EU. They held banners reading "Stop!" as they demanded the EU halt accession talks with Ankara and criticized the 27-nation bloc for being too soft on Turkey.

Pöttering appeared to be playing down concerns over freedom of expression in EU candidate Turkey, saying he did not agree that there was no freedom of expression in Turkey and that there are problems with freedom of the press almost everywhere in the world. But he openly criticized Ankara for its lack of progress in religious freedoms, citing Turkey's refusal to recognize the "ecumenical" status of the Greek Orthodox patriarch based in İstanbul and to reopen a Greek Orthodox seminary on an island off İstanbul, closed since 1971.

15.12.2007

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=129473

[bell-the-cat]

"We have told Turkey that it should recognize its historical responsibilities. We cannot go beyond that," he told reporters at a press conference in Brussels, on the sidelines of an EU summit. He said history could teach people lessons to prevent the repetition of tragic past events, adding that a process of moral and mental digestion should be completed for this first.

Turkey has such a severe case of moral and mental indigestion that it is preventing the digestion process from even starting.

[Greekaiser]

With all the respect ,but this thread is crap.
To let Turkey enter EU, they will demand so many things from her that will not go through even the half of them.
Turkey will have to open all unions ,allow freedom of speech ,return exiled minorities, grant more cultural rights to the minorities, admit that has great responsibility to the ''Events of 1915'' (=armenian genocide), withdraw and recognize Cyprus,...
Turkey is not willing to do all these things!

So turkey will be forced to do these things or will not enter. So its better for all greek and armenians to support turkey enter EU!

...even if they do not belong here...

its better a european turkey rather than a gray wolf one.

[Joseph]

FRANCE'S SARKOZY OPPOSES TURKISH ENTRY INTO EU, VOWS REFERENDUM

ANS
25.04.2008 12:03

French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Thursday reaffirmed his opposition
to Turkey joining the European Union and said he would order a
referendum on Turkish membership if necessary.

His comments came a day after his government said it would scrap a
constitutional amendment that requires France to hold a referendum
on any future enlargement of the EU.

"I have always been opposed to the entry of Turkey" into the EU,
he said in a television interview. "Turkey is not in Europe," the
president declared.

Sarkozy said that if Turkey's membership of the EU became a serious
issue while he was president he would call a referendum.

But the French leader said he was also against holding automatic
referendums each time a new member joins the EU. The cabinet on
Wednesday approved plans to change the constitution so that France
does not have to hold a public vote each time a new country wants to
join the EU.

"If tomorrow the Swiss want to come into Europe, we are not going
to contest the fact that they are Europeans" and hold a referendum,
he said in the interview. "You cannot have a France that tells its
26 European partners excuse us, we cannot decide anything because of
the referendum," Sarkozy was quoted as saying by AFP.

Sarkozy has repeatedly said Turkey, which has embarked on preliminary
talks with the EU, "does not belong in Europe", arguing that most of
its land mass is in Asia. Polls indicate most French back Sarkozy's
stance.

The EU opened entry talks with Turkey in 2005, but there has been
little progress amid disagreements over Cyprus and opposition from
France and other EU countries, including Austria.