Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Gomidas Institute Lecture in London: Rediscovering Bardizag

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Gomidas Institute Lecture in London: Rediscovering Bardizag

    THE LOST ARMENIAN COMMUNITIES OF OTTOMAN TURKEY

    REDISCOVERING ARMENIAN BARDIZAG (BAHCHEJIK) IN WESTERN TURKEY

    INVITATION

    27 January 2008, 3:00 pm
    Armenian House, 25 Cheniston Gardens, London W8
    London, England

    Nearest tube High Street Kensington

    For more information please write to Roland Mnatsakanyan
    at [email protected] or telephone 020 7603 7242

    Entrance is free. Light refreshments will be provided. RSVP.

    Ara Melkonian is a Fellow at the Gomidas Institute, London, where he specializes in Armenian-English translations and works on other special projects. His recent work includes translations of Vahram Dadrian’s Forsaken Love (Taderon Press, 2006) and Raffi’s Tajkahayk, (Taderon Press, 2007). He just began a database series on Armenian Orphans in the Aftermath of WWI. He is the author of “Memory Faultlines” which appeared in the July 2006 issue of Ancestors, the journal of the British National Archives.


  • #2
    Anyone going to attend? Steph?

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by chinchilla View Post
      Anyone going to attend? Steph?
      Are you?
      Perhaps we could hold hands at the back!

      Comment


      • #4
        Some info missed from the OP.

        From Gomidas Institute UK


        THE LOST ARMENIAN COMMUNITIES OF OTTOMAN TURKEY

        REDISCOVERING ARMENIAN BARDIZAG (BAHCHEJIK) IN WESTERN TURKEY


        This presentation by Ara Melkonian is the first in our new series, "The Lost Armenian Communities of Ottoman Turkey." Melkonian will use a rich tapestry of sources to visit Bardizag, the ancestral village of his family, in western Turkey. He will recall the memory of his village for a new generation of Armenians to connect with their ancestral past. Melkonian’s work is creative, meaningful and relevant – and it is our contribution to this year’s United Kingdom Annual Commemoration of Holocaust Memorial Day 2008.
        And the lecture in English.
        Plenipotentiary meow!

        Comment


        • #5
          The lecture: http://www.gomidas.org/events/Revisi...anBardizag.htm

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by chinchilla View Post
            I just finished reading it.

            Although, to my knowledge, I don't have any Bardizagian ancestry, I read it with a strong sense of longing. Longing for something that is no longer there and with an imagination of what could have been if it were. I wish I could spend a day within this erased community, just to see what it was like.

            I also learned about the existence of Laz Armenians from the lecture. I used to think all Laz were of Georgian ethnicity, which separated them from the Hemshin. But it must be a strictly regional and cultural community, since Melkonian distinguishes them from Gurdji (Georgian) Muslims. I'm guessing these folk are now Turks.

            What a great initiative from the Gomidas Institute. I hope another "Lost Communities" lecture is held (and posted on the internet) soon.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by chinchilla View Post
              I also learned about the existence of Laz Armenians from the lecture. I used to think all Laz were of Georgian ethnicity, which separated them from the Hemshin. But it must be a strictly regional and cultural community, since Melkonian distinguishes them from Gurdji (Georgian) Muslims. I'm guessing these folk are now Turks.
              Laz people is distinct ethnical and indigenous people of Anatolia. They are different from Georgian Muslims, Hemshins and Megrels.

              It is estimated about 100 000 Lazuri (they call themselves as Lazuri) people live in Turkey, predominantly in Lazistan (Artvin, Trebizond and Rize). The name Lazistan is banned in 1926 but Laz people try to protect their language and culture. Their language can be considered close to Greek and also in Lazistan there are Muslim Greeks though very few.

              Comment


              • #8
                I believe they are not indigeounos,they were moved there.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                  I believe they are not indigeounos,they were moved there.
                  As far as i know, they are indigenous.

                  Laz word is firstly used by Plinius's Naturalis Historia (AD 1st century). And between BC 150-AD 600, they estalished Lazika Kingdom between Trebizond and Abhazia.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Seems like were both right 2 categories of Laz in Turkey one is indigenous the other moved to Turkey escaping Russian expension .
                    "All truth passes through three stages:
                    First, it is ridiculed;
                    Second, it is violently opposed; and
                    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X