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    Father sues Turkish Education Ministry over Armenian 'genocide' DVD
    Suna Erdem in Istanbul

    A father is suing the Turkish Education Ministry for forcing his 11-year-old daughter to watch a “racist” and “disturbing” film countering claims that Ottoman Turks committed genocide against Armenians in 1915 with graphic allegations of Armenian atrocities against Turks.

    The landmark case takes on what human rights activists have called the State's militarist policy of brainwashing Turkey's schoolchildren to the point of racist paranoia, aiming to preserve a nationalist status quo criticised by the European Union, which Turkey is keen to join.

    “My daughter was very disturbed and frightened by the documentary and kept asking me if the Armenians had cut us up,” said Serdar Kaya, an ethnic Turkish doctor, who is suing the ministry and the child's school for inciting racial hatred.

    “There are many mass graves, bones and skulls in the DVD. They have interviewed old grandads who inspire confidence and compassion. When they say things like 'They cut off his head' and 'They used it instead of firewood', that is bound to stay with the children,” Serdar Degirmencioglu, a psychologist, told the Armenian newspaper Agos when news first broke that the documentary was being shown to primary school children - including ethnic Armenian Turks.

    The Education Ministry says that it has stopped the distribution of the documentary, Sari Gelin (Blonde Bride), named after an Armenian folk song. But it has apparently not recalled it and critics say that it remains part of the curriculum.

    Some MPs are bringing up the case in Parliament. The education union Egitim-Sen has condemned the film, and the History Foundation has dismissed it as baseless propaganda.

    Another lawsuit has been filed by a foundation set up in honour of the murdered Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink. The former editor of Agos was murdered in 2007 by a young nationalist whose links to a group of ultra-nationalists, codenamed Ergenekon, operating within the security forces and state bureaucracy are now being investigated. “In the whole of the documentary the word 'Armenian' has been used thousands of times and only with negative connotations,” the Foundation said.

    Mr Dink had been one of several high-profile intellectuals, also including Orhan Pamuk, the Nobel literature laureate, and Elif Shafak, the bestselling author, who had been sued by nationalist lawyers over comments and writings alluding to the mass Armenian deaths. “You can see that all those cases were part of a project of manipulation ... There is a sick, abnormal tissue of Turkish society that is poisoned by a nationalist, racist virus,” said Ufuk Uras, an independent MP who backs Mr Kaya's case.

    Many historians class the 1915 events as genocide, but even those who reject the term accept that hundreds of thousands of Armenians died when the Ottoman Turks deported them from eastern Anatolia. According to the International Association of Genocide Scholars, the death toll was “more than a million”.

    “You go and kill more than a million Armenians, wipe the traces of Armenians from Anatolia, grab their property, and then show children videos about 'What the Armenians did to us' ... We are cutting these children off from the rest of the world,” said Ahmet Altan, editor of the independent newspaper Taraf.

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    • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

      I like to quote this one Turk just to give you guys an idea on how most Turks feel about this entire apology petition.
      I have been working on this guy who in the last few months was on the borderline of becoming a full fledge Wolf, not sure if I can stop it. I don't want to end up hunting him. He is young and probably not over 20 years old but seem to have an open mind.


      Anyway here it is.


      <<<<<< ……..This issue was announced/reported differently/wrongly in foreign media.

      Those (so-called) intellectuals, said/wrote such statements " Turkish people are savage killers, Turkish people's blood is poison, they should be cleaned " and so on.

      They made full generalization and insult all the society, violated social peace. So the people react them.

      I don't know where you are from... If in your country, someone identified himself and started to attack your race,culture etc, you would react him, wouldn't you ?

      If a fanatic react those provocateur(I mean "intellectuals" who make insults) who will be criminal ? Turkish Government ? ? ? or totally angried people(fanatics) who are insulted ? ? ? or man/woman who insulted all the society ? ? ?

      I think third one is first....then the second one....

      They have to be responsible their speech. They are putting a dynamite and fired.. then waiting....OR they violate the social peace!!!

      Turkish law is the best solution to prevent that...also the punishmet is not heavy... Sorry, but I can't see any anti-democratic situation here.>>>>>>>>


      Nice post Federate.

      The level of brainwashing in Turkey is mind boggling.
      B0zkurt Hunter

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      • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

        Originally posted by Federate View Post
        Father sues Turkish Education Ministry over Armenian 'genocide' DVD
        Suna Erdem in Istanbul

        A father is suing the Turkish Education Ministry for forcing his 11-year-old daughter to watch a “racist” and “disturbing” film countering claims that Ottoman Turks committed genocide against Armenians in 1915 with graphic allegations of Armenian atrocities against Turks.

        The landmark case takes on what human rights activists have called the State's militarist policy of brainwashing Turkey's schoolchildren to the point of racist paranoia, aiming to preserve a nationalist status quo criticised by the European Union, which Turkey is keen to join.

        “My daughter was very disturbed and frightened by the documentary and kept asking me if the Armenians had cut us up,” said Serdar Kaya, an ethnic Turkish doctor, who is suing the ministry and the child's school for inciting racial hatred.

        “There are many mass graves, bones and skulls in the DVD. They have interviewed old grandads who inspire confidence and compassion. When they say things like 'They cut off his head' and 'They used it instead of firewood', that is bound to stay with the children,” Serdar Degirmencioglu, a psychologist, told the Armenian newspaper Agos when news first broke that the documentary was being shown to primary school children - including ethnic Armenian Turks.

        The Education Ministry says that it has stopped the distribution of the documentary, Sari Gelin (Blonde Bride), named after an Armenian folk song. But it has apparently not recalled it and critics say that it remains part of the curriculum.

        Some MPs are bringing up the case in Parliament. The education union Egitim-Sen has condemned the film, and the History Foundation has dismissed it as baseless propaganda.

        Another lawsuit has been filed by a foundation set up in honour of the murdered Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink. The former editor of Agos was murdered in 2007 by a young nationalist whose links to a group of ultra-nationalists, codenamed Ergenekon, operating within the security forces and state bureaucracy are now being investigated. “In the whole of the documentary the word 'Armenian' has been used thousands of times and only with negative connotations,” the Foundation said.

        Mr Dink had been one of several high-profile intellectuals, also including Orhan Pamuk, the Nobel literature laureate, and Elif Shafak, the bestselling author, who had been sued by nationalist lawyers over comments and writings alluding to the mass Armenian deaths. “You can see that all those cases were part of a project of manipulation ... There is a sick, abnormal tissue of Turkish society that is poisoned by a nationalist, racist virus,” said Ufuk Uras, an independent MP who backs Mr Kaya's case.

        Many historians class the 1915 events as genocide, but even those who reject the term accept that hundreds of thousands of Armenians died when the Ottoman Turks deported them from eastern Anatolia. According to the International Association of Genocide Scholars, the death toll was “more than a million”.

        “You go and kill more than a million Armenians, wipe the traces of Armenians from Anatolia, grab their property, and then show children videos about 'What the Armenians did to us' ... We are cutting these children off from the rest of the world,” said Ahmet Altan, editor of the independent newspaper Taraf.

        http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5818155.ece
        With this level of brainwash, and this is just an example, how can anyone expect to move forward in discussion/debate with turkey? God cannot forgive those who continue the final stages of the Genocide of the Armenian People.

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        • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

          Thanks for the clarification Edo jan. I read it more then once but I was in a hurry at the moment so I guess I misunderstood the article. I hope nothing serious happens . And this brainwashing crap, you think we should make a special section for this (called brainwash, perhaps lol) in CA or just throw it into the archives? It's a great way to show what's going down in Turkey.
          THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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          • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

            Originally posted by Saco View Post
            Thanks for the clarification Edo jan. I read it more then once but I was in a hurry at the moment so I guess I misunderstood the article. I hope nothing serious happens . And this brainwashing crap, you think we should make a special section for this (called brainwash, perhaps lol) in CA or just throw it into the archives? It's a great way to show what's going down in Turkey.

            You welcome

            Saco jan you know best. I would say yes for sure because it is an important tool but as I understand it you guys are overwhelmed and changing things right now will add to the stress level, especially if you are trying to meet a deadline.
            But this is important and must eventually find its proper place on CA. I don’t know what it takes to do it but it can always be added later I suppose.
            I just don’t want you guys to get all screwed up trying to do too much at once.
            B0zkurt Hunter

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            • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

              I just don’t want you guys to get all screwed up trying to do too much at once.
              Edo jan, right now we're putting everything together. We're still accepting ideas and there have been many changes so no worries. I think this new page will be called "Brainwash". I'll talk about this with everyone real quick, let's see what they think.
              THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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              • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

                29545 signatures at the moment.
                THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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                • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

                  Originally posted by Alexandros View Post
                  WOW!Over 4800 of our Turkish brothers and sisters have signed this petition!
                  May be they are your brothers and sisters and family members.
                  But don't pull that stuff on me or any other self respecting Armenian.

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                  • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

                    Originally posted by merhayrenik View Post
                    May be they are your brothers and sisters and family members.
                    But don't pull that stuff on me or any other self respecting Armenian.
                    What`s up mate?You can`t get rid of the that you have inside you.

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                    • Re: Please Sign This Petition: Özür diliyoruz

                      Originally posted by Alexandros View Post
                      What`s up mate?You can`t get rid of the that you have inside you.
                      No it's the who lives next door.

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