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[lal]

It's hard to walk in someone elses shoe,aint'it?

ım walking for myself not for you.

[ardakilic]

ım walking for myself not for you.

I think you misunderstood Gavur. He implies "to put you one's place"...

[VaheTheGreat(e)]

if the majority of armenians think this way,asala did a good job killing turkish diplomats randomly, plus Karabağ issue is over ,no need to compromise with azeris,plus let obama accept the genocide,who cares what will happen to friendly turks in turkey and negative effects of this between turkey and armenia,

ı still support the apology from turkish side. but the reason is not to satisfy armenian people who think like above and support violance,

the reason ı support the apology is the great injustice done to ottoman armenians 90 years ago and hiding this is immoral,nothing else. they were our people,our sisters,they were not foreigners from outside. they certainly need their honour to be given back. no human deserve such total destruction.

on the other hand,if the general attitude is this way among armenians,and this is the politics of armenia Republic, ı support turkish government not to open the borders,keep on the ambargo and cut all off all the relationship with armenia for ever.

the reason ı think this way is not my nationalistic feelings and desire of getting back lost lands Karabağ,but my disgust and extreme hatered against terrorizm and violance. if armenians support terrorizm, they must know by now that they cant even come close to turks in this catagory.

maybe mr jıseph can ban me now,that ı cant think exactly like an armenian ,ım sorry.

lal,you are a good hearted person but you make me laugh some times...
what lost lands you are talking about? Are you comparing assassination of few criminal (actively denying a genocide is a crime against humanity) diplomats with moral responsibility of turks? Do you think Armenia will not survive with turkish borders closed? And in what category Armenians can not come close to turks?

[ardakilic]

lal,you are a good hearted person but you make me laugh some times...
what lost lands you are talking about? Are you comparing assassination of few criminal (actively denying a genocide is a crime against humanity) diplomats with moral responsibility of turks? Do you think Armenia will not survive with turkish borders closed? And in what category Armenians can not come close to turks?

I see Turks love too much this ASALA subject. They are always telling the same story. Of course terrorism is bad, violence is cursed bla bla but this is a drop in the ocean.

Terror, as a term, comes from the states, not the individuals or groups.

[bell-the-cat]

yes but ım still scared really. do you think they will find out who we are and threaten or damage us individually?

Calm down - don't panic. It's not realistic to fear that someone will find out who you are. But even if it were possible, is it likely that someone would target you individually?

Re. being scared about writing something after writing it - a while ago I was in Turkey in a little town in the middle of nowhere, which I won't name, and was planning to leave that afternoon. Close by the hotel I was staying in there was an old mansion house that had been waiting a restoration for a decade, and was now a derelict and partly-burnt shell that was ready to completely collapse. I used a charred bit of wood to write in English on a wall in one of its rooms exactly what I thought about Turkey's lack of respect for its culture and history, not holding back what I felt. Then, an hour later, I went to the train station and found out the train was cancelled and so couldn't leave, had to return to the hotel, and had to worry for the next 24 hours that someone would read what I had written and trace it back to me (not a difficult thing to do since I was the only foreigner in the whole town).

[Gavur]

The ghosts of the saints will turn you in.

[Gavur]

I think you misunderstood Gavur. He implies "to put you one's place"...

Thank you,seems to me fear is the biggest tool of evil we should be aware of and fend against.

[lal]

I see Turks love too much this ASALA subject. They are always telling the same story. Of course terrorism is bad, violence is cursed bla bla but this is a drop in the ocean.

Terror, as a term, comes from the states, not the individuals or groups.

individually you may think the way you want to. so you make a calculation and say 1 million minus 50 = 950,000 people armenians.

but if you think from the mass pscology point of view, yes those 50 or so asala murders are extremely important.and a declaration by armenia republic cursing them is also needed.

if to acception of the genocide by some people like us, is enough, we need not to talk anytyhing else. if we want more people to accept the reality, if we want friendly two or three countries in this geography, yes we need some move from armenians also.

but like vahe says, if it is not much important that turkey and armenia be friends in state levels,closed borders are not vital,than its fine, we dont need any moves.

but these are politics. even if today armenians totally declare war on turkey, nothing about history can change.still we owe this apology.

[ardakilic]

individually you may think the way you want to. so you make a calculation and say 1 million minus 50 = 950,000 people armenians.

but if you think from the mass pscology point of view, yes those 50 or so asala murders are extremely important.and a declaration by armenia republic cursing them is also needed.

if to acception of the genocide by some people like us, is enough, we need not to talk anytyhing else. if we want more people to accept the reality, if we want friendly two or three countries in this geography, yes we need some move from armenians also.

but like vahe says, if it is not much important that turkey and armenia be friends in state levels,closed borders are not vital,than its fine, we dont need any moves.

but these are politics. even if today armenians totally declare war on turkey, nothing about history can change.still we owe this apology.

No, although i am a mathematician, dead bodies are not calculated and counted.

What i mean is there is no direct connection between ASALA and Armenian state. Thus, if somebody will apologize, this has to be ASALA, if still exists.

But Genocide proceeded by Ittihadist state and Kemalist Turkish Republic is the successor of it. So, if somebody will apologize, it is Turkey Republic.

I think it is clear enough.

[Gavur]

You deserve a kiss in the mouth for that consice comparison.