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Yes, President Wilson was a great President; a man with a true golden heart. A just man indeed! Truly a brother to the Christians and the Armenians!!!
Why can't we have more presidents like President Wilson?
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Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostAnd what should they have done? What could they have done?
WASHINGTON, Jan. 10. 1921--President Wilson has reached a decision concerning the action he will take as a consequence of his acceptance of the invitation of the League of Nations to mediate between the Republic of Armenia and ........
See PDF File for the complete (but very short) New York Times article that I found accidently a while back.
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I agree with you Joseph jan,
Indeed the Germans were very involved with the Genocide of the Christians in turkey on or before 1915. Vahakn Dadrian wrote a whole book about the German involvement in the Armenian Genocide.
The Germans and the turks did the Genocide in WWI so that the Europeans and the allies won't be able to interfere. And they didn't or couldn't.Last edited by Anoush; 06-04-2009, 08:22 AM.
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Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
let me disagree on this one... most people in eastern Anatolia call them self kurds, they speak kurdish and they do not enjoy much beauty of the land that does not belong nether to them nor to turks... And even if some one enjoys that land: that is immoral or ignorant because they do not know what is price of owning that land...
Why only less than 25 years ago in several places in Der el Zor region and some regions in Eastern Anatolia people came across to unburied bones of humans and the locals knew that it was the bones of "Ermeni".Last edited by Anoush; 06-04-2009, 07:57 AM.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by Joseph View PostThe Germans advocated the slaughter of Turkey's Christian population since the rule of Abdul Hamid II. You should read:
Like Hidden Fire: The Plot to Bring Down the British Empire
by Peter Hopkirk
It explains the German strategy of instigating a religious war between Christian and Muslims to cripple the British Empire during WWI from India to Asia Minor and North Africa.
While German civilians and even some of the military was sympathetic towards treatment of Christian minorities in the O.E., the high-command use the Genocide to its advantage.
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There is not very much the US, France, UK nor even Russia could have done during the early and middle stage of the Genocide.
The theatre in Asia Minor was small compared to Europe, the British were struggling against the Turks in around what is currently Jordan and Israel. The French forces were bogged down in Belgium and France. Had the British and ANZACS been successful at Galipoili, {which may have been possible had they pressed their earlier advantage instead of wasting several days to move ahead and giving time for the Turks to reinforce their positions and bring up several thousand more troops} or had the Russians shifted more divisions from the E. European front to the Caucasus, or if the dilitante Armenians from Tblisi had actually formed battalions earlier it all could have been avoided. There are many what-ifs. Additionally, the US was neutral until 1916.
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Originally posted by Mukuch View PostGermans could do alot..... if they wanted to....
Like Hidden Fire: The Plot to Bring Down the British Empire
by Peter Hopkirk
It explains the German strategy of instigating a religious war between Christian and Muslims to cripple the British Empire during WWI from India to Asia Minor and North Africa.
While German civilians and even some of the military was sympathetic towards treatment of Christian minorities in the O.E., the high-command use the Genocide to its advantage.
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Re: Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
Originally posted by firat View PostIt seems you did not understand me at all. I don't want Armenians to instinct. .
Originally posted by firat View PostIf believing Turks do not have any identity makes you happier, so it is.
What does it change?.
Originally posted by firat View PostWhat I care in the first place is the wealth of my country and its people. Let others think what ever they want.
Originally posted by firat View PostSome believe that Turks are Mongolians some others believe just the opposite since they don't look like Mongolians and mixed up with every race in Anatolia. What do these change? Nothing
Originally posted by firat View PostDo people in Anatolia call themselves Turks, yes. Do they speak Turkish, yes. Do they enjoy the beauty of the country, yes. Do they own the country, yes.
Originally posted by firat View PostBottom line is you can believe whatever you want. This does not change a thing. You can't get to any point by proving the origin of Turks. What matters is that how people in Turkey perceive themselves.
they are mongoloid nomads and nomads do not own land.Last edited by Mukuch; 06-04-2009, 06:24 AM.
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