Eurovision 2010

[KanadaHye]

Re: Eurovision 2010

that's what i've always said. I pronounce the the "AP" in apricot like the "AP" in Application, not like "APE"


I mentioned this on the youtube video of the song once and basically everyone attacked me and generally said I was an idiot for thinking this and that "APE-ricot" is the right way to say it.

Abricot (Prunus Armeniaca)

That's because we pronounce it like the English but it comes from Arabic and is supposed to be pronounced the way she does.

[Yedtarts]

Re: Eurovision 2010

Abricot (Prunus Armeniaca)

That's because we pronounce it like the English but it comes from Arabic and is supposed to be pronounced the way she does.

I don’t know where do you get it from that apricot comes from Arabic?
Apricot in Arabic is “mushmush” ( مشمش ) it’s not even close to apricot.

[gegev]

Re: Eurovision 2010

Eva Rivas is a good singer and the song text is not that bad. The fact I dislike; is that she doesn’t want to learn a single Armenian word and didn’t pronounce them at the numerous interviews. (I don’t mean the few Armenian songs she sings with Russian accent). And the pants she used is another thing to criticize for her bad taste in fashion.

She “teaches” us the Russian language; she prefers. And yet she wishes to take part in Eurovision once more: on behalf of Armenia; strangers are not allowed doing it.

I vote against it; speakers of the Russian language should take part in Eurovision on behalf of Russia.

Eva either learn Armenian language or leave Armenian song stage, as soon as possible.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Eurovision 2010

I don’t know where do you get it from that apricot comes from Arabic?
Apricot in Arabic is “mushmush” ( مشمش ) it’s not even close to apricot.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=apricot
1550s, abrec0ck, from Catalan abercoc, related to Port. albricoque, from Arabic al-birquq, through Byzantine Gk. berikokkia from L. (malum) præcoquum "early-ripening (fruit)" (see precocious). Form assimilated to Fr. abricot. The older Latin name for it was prunum Armeniacum or malum Armeniacum, in ref. to supposed origin in Armenia. As a color name, first attested 1906.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rds_in_English
apricot
البرقوق al-birquq. Arabic is in turn traceable back to Byzantine Greek and thence to classical Latin precoqua, which was a type of peach in ancient Rome. The Arabic entered English (via French) from Portugese

[Yedtarts]

Re: Eurovision 2010

Abricot (Prunus Armeniaca)

That's because we pronounce it like the English but it comes from Arabic and is supposed to be pronounced the way she does.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=apricot
1550s, abrec0ck, from Catalan abercoc, related to Port. albricoque, from Arabic al-birquq, through Byzantine Gk. berikokkia from L. (malum) præcoquum "early-ripening (fruit)" (see precocious). Form assimilated to Fr. abricot. The older Latin name for it was prunum Armeniacum or malum Armeniacum, in ref. to supposed origin in Armenia. As a color name, first attested 1906.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rds_in_English
apricot
البرقوق al-birquq. Arabic is in turn traceable back to Byzantine Greek and thence to classical Latin precoqua, which was a type of peach in ancient Rome. The Arabic entered English (via French) from Portugese

Let’s see how “from Arabic al-birquq” would make someone pronounce the “apricot” as “ape-ricot”? the “al” in “al-birquq” is pronounced as the “al” in “Al Pacino”, so from where does “Ape” in apricot comes from?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Eurovision 2010

Let’s see how “from Arabic al-birquq” would make someone pronounce the “apricot” as “ape-ricot”? the “al” in “al-birquq” is pronounced as the “al” in “Al Pacino”, so from where does “Ape” in apricot comes from?

Follow the Etymology.... abercoc, related to Port. albricoque, from Arabic al-birquq

Arabic al-bir-quq ----> Portuguese alb-ri-coque ----> abe-r-coc

Put it this way... do you pronounce the long "A" as in Al Pacino in the Armenian language?

[One-Way]

Re: Eurovision 2010

Abricot (Prunus Armeniaca)

That's because we pronounce it like the English but it comes from Arabic and is supposed to be pronounced the way she does.

Uh, no. She's pronouncing it wrong, along with every other word she mouths. She doesn't even know proper Armenian, which leads me to assume this girl is in desperate need of a Linguistics class - in general.

I'm not hating on her but I refuse to support a certain person who essentially does nothing for me. She doesn't represent Armenia, in any way, and her song was not good, in my opinion. In fact, the only people who are defending her seem to be blindsided by the sole fact that she is Armenian. That's not reason enough for me to support her music.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Eurovision 2010

Uh, no. She's pronouncing it wrong, along with every other word she mouths. She doesn't even know proper Armenian, which leads me to assume this girl is in desperate need of a Linguistics class - in general.

I'm not hating on her but I refuse to support a certain person who essentially does nothing for me. She doesn't represent Armenia, in any way, and her song was not good, in my opinion. In fact, the only people who are defending her seem to be blindsided by the sole fact that she is Armenian. That's not reason enough for me to support her music.

I didn't even watch the stupid competition, but as far as linguistics goes... I'll take the word of multinational linguists over Americans any day. Both pronunciations are used depending on where you are from.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3091239AANvg88

You can listen to both pronunciations here:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apricot

[One-Way]

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What's your point, exactly? Yahoo! Answers is not a source, and in your second link, they pronounce it two different ways, one of which I was defending. Either way, it's not simply about her pronunciation of that word. It's her entire demeanor and the fact that she couldn't speak proper Armenian. That's the problem.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Eurovision 2010

What's your point, exactly? Yahoo! Answers is not a source, and in your second link, they pronounce it two different ways, one of which I was defending. Either way, it's not simply about her pronunciation of that word. It's her entire demeanor and the fact that she couldn't speak proper Armenian. That's the problem.

My point is I've heard it pronounced both ways depending on where people are from and I researched as to why that's the case. If it's any consolation I pronounce it your way as well <sigh>.

I just watched the video, she did alright... nothing spectacular but I wouldn't criticize her for not doing well in a politically motivated competition.