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  • #61
    Re: Eurovision 2010

    Originally posted by ara87 View Post
    that's what i've always said. I pronounce the the "AP" in apricot like the "AP" in Application, not like "APE"


    I mentioned this on the youtube video of the song once and basically everyone attacked me and generally said I was an idiot for thinking this and that "APE-ricot" is the right way to say it.
    Abricot (Prunus Armeniaca)

    That's because we pronounce it like the English but it comes from Arabic and is supposed to be pronounced the way she does.
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    • #62
      Re: Eurovision 2010

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      Abricot (Prunus Armeniaca)

      That's because we pronounce it like the English but it comes from Arabic and is supposed to be pronounced the way she does.
      I don’t know where do you get it from that apricot comes from Arabic?
      Apricot in Arabic is “mushmush” ( مشمش ) it’s not even close to apricot.

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      • #63
        Re: Eurovision 2010

        Eva Rivas is a good singer and the song text is not that bad. The fact I dislike; is that she doesn’t want to learn a single Armenian word and didn’t pronounce them at the numerous interviews. (I don’t mean the few Armenian songs she sings with Russian accent). And the pants she used is another thing to criticize for her bad taste in fashion.

        She “teaches” us the Russian language; she prefers. And yet she wishes to take part in Eurovision once more: on behalf of Armenia; strangers are not allowed doing it.

        I vote against it; speakers of the Russian language should take part in Eurovision on behalf of Russia.

        Eva either learn Armenian language or leave Armenian song stage, as soon as possible.
        Last edited by gegev; 06-05-2010, 01:31 AM.

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        • #64
          Re: Eurovision 2010

          Originally posted by Yedtarts View Post
          I don’t know where do you get it from that apricot comes from Arabic?
          Apricot in Arabic is “mushmush” ( مشمش ) it’s not even close to apricot.
          http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=apricot
          1550s, abrec0ck, from Catalan abercoc, related to Port. albricoque, from Arabic al-birquq, through Byzantine Gk. berikokkia from L. (malum) præcoquum "early-ripening (fruit)" (see precocious). Form assimilated to Fr. abricot. The older Latin name for it was prunum Armeniacum or malum Armeniacum, in ref. to supposed origin in Armenia. As a color name, first attested 1906.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rds_in_English
          apricot
          البرقوق al-birquq. Arabic is in turn traceable back to Byzantine Greek and thence to classical Latin precoqua, which was a type of peach in ancient Rome. The Arabic entered English (via French) from Portugese
          Last edited by KanadaHye; 06-05-2010, 10:34 AM.
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          • #65
            Re: Eurovision 2010

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            Abricot (Prunus Armeniaca)

            That's because we pronounce it like the English but it comes from Arabic and is supposed to be pronounced the way she does.
            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=apricot
            1550s, abrec0ck, from Catalan abercoc, related to Port. albricoque, from Arabic al-birquq, through Byzantine Gk. berikokkia from L. (malum) præcoquum "early-ripening (fruit)" (see precocious). Form assimilated to Fr. abricot. The older Latin name for it was prunum Armeniacum or malum Armeniacum, in ref. to supposed origin in Armenia. As a color name, first attested 1906.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rds_in_English
            apricot
            البرقوق al-birquq. Arabic is in turn traceable back to Byzantine Greek and thence to classical Latin precoqua, which was a type of peach in ancient Rome. The Arabic entered English (via French) from Portugese
            Let’s see how “from Arabic al-birquq” would make someone pronounce the “apricot” as “ape-ricot”? the “al” in “al-birquq” is pronounced as the “al” in “Al Pacino”, so from where does “Ape” in apricot comes from?

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            • #66
              Re: Eurovision 2010

              Originally posted by Yedtarts View Post
              Let’s see how “from Arabic al-birquq” would make someone pronounce the “apricot” as “ape-ricot”? the “al” in “al-birquq” is pronounced as the “al” in “Al Pacino”, so from where does “Ape” in apricot comes from?
              Follow the Etymology.... abercoc, related to Port. albricoque, from Arabic al-birquq

              Arabic al-bir-quq ----> Portuguese alb-ri-coque ----> abe-r-coc

              Put it this way... do you pronounce the long "A" as in Al Pacino in the Armenian language?
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              • #67
                Re: Eurovision 2010

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                Abricot (Prunus Armeniaca)

                That's because we pronounce it like the English but it comes from Arabic and is supposed to be pronounced the way she does.
                Uh, no. She's pronouncing it wrong, along with every other word she mouths. She doesn't even know proper Armenian, which leads me to assume this girl is in desperate need of a Linguistics class - in general.

                I'm not hating on her but I refuse to support a certain person who essentially does nothing for me. She doesn't represent Armenia, in any way, and her song was not good, in my opinion. In fact, the only people who are defending her seem to be blindsided by the sole fact that she is Armenian. That's not reason enough for me to support her music.

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                • #68
                  Re: Eurovision 2010

                  Originally posted by One-Way View Post
                  Uh, no. She's pronouncing it wrong, along with every other word she mouths. She doesn't even know proper Armenian, which leads me to assume this girl is in desperate need of a Linguistics class - in general.

                  I'm not hating on her but I refuse to support a certain person who essentially does nothing for me. She doesn't represent Armenia, in any way, and her song was not good, in my opinion. In fact, the only people who are defending her seem to be blindsided by the sole fact that she is Armenian. That's not reason enough for me to support her music.
                  I didn't even watch the stupid competition, but as far as linguistics goes... I'll take the word of multinational linguists over Americans any day. Both pronunciations are used depending on where you are from.

                  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3091239AANvg88

                  You can listen to both pronunciations here:
                  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apricot
                  Last edited by KanadaHye; 06-05-2010, 02:07 PM.
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                  • #69
                    Re: Eurovision 2010

                    What's your point, exactly? Yahoo! Answers is not a source, and in your second link, they pronounce it two different ways, one of which I was defending. Either way, it's not simply about her pronunciation of that word. It's her entire demeanor and the fact that she couldn't speak proper Armenian. That's the problem.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Eurovision 2010

                      Originally posted by One-Way View Post
                      What's your point, exactly? Yahoo! Answers is not a source, and in your second link, they pronounce it two different ways, one of which I was defending. Either way, it's not simply about her pronunciation of that word. It's her entire demeanor and the fact that she couldn't speak proper Armenian. That's the problem.
                      My point is I've heard it pronounced both ways depending on where people are from and I researched as to why that's the case. If it's any consolation I pronounce it your way as well <sigh>.

                      I just watched the video, she did alright... nothing spectacular but I wouldn't criticize her for not doing well in a politically motivated competition.
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