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  • #11
    Re: 2015

    Originally posted by Mher View Post
    To me the purpose of the movement wasn't that any country or parliament accepted the events as genocide; it was for the general world population to gain awareness, and for the academic and historical texts to reflect the truth. This has been achieved, beyond that, what more is there to do? The events ended on a satisfying high note, with global consensus and sympathy. Dragging on the events that are now widely known and acknowledged risks creating fatigue in the collective minds of the global population

    I think it would be smart to move forward, and instead of protests and expensive marches, have solemn memorial of the victims, and dedicate the day, and the month to investing in, and advancing Armenia. If we are indeed serious about undoing the wrongs done by the Genocide, of returning to Armenia the land, wealth, and pride that it was robbed of, we need to strengthen the Armenian nation, so it can one day retake what was taken when the opportunity presents itself.
    Although I agree with much that's said in above post , I think there is much unsaid that needs saying .
    (1) the Armenian people ---are victims ---. Both the victims of murder and torture (and) their offspring .
    (2) the millions of dollars being spent *** every year *** by the purpetratrators and their cohorts to deny , minimalize , obfuscate , and rewrite history is an extension and continuization of the genocide and the precursor Hamidan and Adana massacres .
    The people who suffered the initial massacres and genocide that survived these events had no choice but to continue .
    We of today have no choice either. Yes , we need to strengthen Hayastan but we cannot let the criminals or their lieing offspring who partake in the genocide via denying and marginalizing and fraudulently *** condoning *** the genocide to go unrecognized for what they are . Niether can we tolerate the world community to accept this propaganda so they (world community ) can move on with their personal motivations .
    The turcs teach lies in their schools . The world at large doesn't really care .
    That is not acceptable and needs to be addressed at every occurrence . Nothing less is acceptable .
    Don't care if the world is burnt out on hearing the truth .
    We keep aiming till we get a skull shot , otherwise , we keep shooting .

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    • #12
      Re: 2015

      Originally posted by Artashes View Post
      Although I agree with much that's said in above post , I think there is much unsaid that needs saying .
      (1) the Armenian people ---are victims ---. Both the victims of murder and torture (and) their offspring .
      (2) the millions of dollars being spent *** every year *** by the purpetratrators and their cohorts to deny , minimalize , obfuscate , and rewrite history is an extension and continuization of the genocide and the precursor Hamidan and Adana massacres .
      The people who suffered the initial massacres and genocide that survived these events had no choice but to continue .
      We of today have no choice either. Yes , we need to strengthen Hayastan but we cannot let the criminals or their lieing offspring who partake in the genocide via denying and marginalizing and fraudulently *** condoning *** the genocide to go unrecognized for what they are . Niether can we tolerate the world community to accept this propaganda so they (world community ) can move on with their personal motivations .
      The turcs teach lies in their schools . The world at large doesn't really care .
      That is not acceptable and needs to be addressed at every occurrence . Nothing less is acceptable .
      Don't care if the world is burnt out on hearing the truth .
      We keep aiming till we get a skull shot , otherwise , we keep shooting .
      Agree 100%

      .
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • #13
        Re: 2015

        Originally posted by Mher View Post
        To me the purpose of the movement wasn't that any country or parliament accepted the events as genocide; it was for the general world population to gain awareness, and for the academic and historical texts to reflect the truth. This has been achieved, beyond that, what more is there to do? The events ended on a satisfying high note, with global consensus and sympathy. Dragging on the events that are now widely known and acknowledged risks creating fatigue in the collective minds of the global population .
        This is a loosing strategy.

        Time erodes memory of the facts.
        It becomes easy victim of counter propaganda.

        If the people are are told to get on with it I can assure you in 5 – 10 years nobody would bother.
        Even a movement will start with the view that we will be healthier people if we do not teach our kids the facts.

        I could go on .....



        I think it would be smart to move forward, and instead of protests and expensive marches, have solemn memorial of the victims, and dedicate the day, and the month to investing in, and advancing Armenia. If we are indeed serious about undoing the wrongs done by the Genocide, of returning to Armenia the land, wealth, and pride that it was robbed of, we need to strengthen the Armenian nation, so it can one day retake what was taken when the opportunity presents itself.
        This is a different issue and a valid one.
        However they are not exclusive to to the issues above.

        One of the reasons why the diaspora care and is keen to help Armenia is because of our history.
        It is one ( not only ) of the hallmarks of our history and heritage.
        Anything that undermines this within or from outside should be resisted vigorously.
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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