The White Stripes

[Anonymouse]

While the band is very good and has topped music charts, the whole thing is a total classic rockesque rip off.

While I do admit they are talented the vocals and guitar is a total rip off of Jimmy Paige and Robert Plant, from Led Zeppelin, and even a similarity to Black Francis from the Pixies.

I mean come on. Anyone familiar with classic rock, Led Zepplin can see the obviousness of the hijacking. The White Stripes are riding on the ticket of appealing to the modern alternative and hardcore rock heads by bringing back that classic rock vibe since most youngsters these days are totally ignorant of classic rock era and Led Zeppelin for that matter.

Funny how when I mention this to White Stripes fans they say "nooo" but those are usually the same people not familiar with Zep or Pixies or classic rock in general. The reason I know this is true is because numerous articles I've already read mostly be people who are hardcore Led Zeppelin fans realize the Led Zeppelinesque nature of this new band.

I wish Jack and Meg White were a little more original in their style.

[surferarmo]

punk rock is way better than classic rock. But aside from that, the "originals" got their ideas from someone else. People before them might have been saying "Led Zepplin stole my music." I mean, come on, where does it end, and where does it begin.

[Anonymouse]

What you are referring to is true but for NEW STYLES. Everything is a building block but the White Stripes aren't building anything new they are just bringing back something that already was.

As far as punk being better than classic, I strongly disagree both because of personal and obvious reasons.

[Dorobo]

Oh my god i could not agree with you more. Anyone who rips off old style really lacks the overall tallent to create an image of themselves. We see that the white stripes make a copy of Led Zepplin. Poorly. Another example is Lenny Kravits. He is an almost identical copy of my personal hero, Jimi Hendrix. I really dont like it. And in no way is punk better than classic rock. Not only in musical quality (anyone can pump out a 4 power chord song) but in shear brilliance.

Also, i appologise for any spelling errors.

[Anonymouse]

Oh my god i could not agree with you more. Anyone who rips off old style really lacks the overall tallent to create an image of themselves. We see that the white stripes make a copy of Led Zepplin. Poorly. Another example is Lenny Kravits. He is an almost identical copy of my personal hero, Jimi Hendrix. I really dont like it. And in no way is punk better than classic rock. Not only in musical quality (anyone can pump out a 4 power chord song) but in shear brilliance.

Also, i appologise for any spelling errors.

Agreed. My point earlier was that yes we all stand on the shoulder of giants and we are all influenced by things and people prior to us, but that influence should lead us to different creative ends, not going back to the originals and ripping off them.

The only reason many of these youngins like The White Stripes is because they are ignorant and dont know about Led Zeppelin to see how xxxxing identical they sound and that Jack and Meg White are doing a rip off of it which is not becoming.

[Andromida806]

I agree with Dodo and Anonymoog in saying that classic rock is way better than punk. Not only as musicians but also as lyricists. Todays bands just seem to whine about the same old crap or really have anything to say that really says anything at all. The bands back in the day told stories through their music and it all had a meaning.... Not just hate songs and 'feal sorry for me songs'. Classic rock is definately above the punk of today.

[surferarmo]

I agree with Dodo and Anonymoog in saying that classic rock is way better than punk. Not only as musicians but also as lyricists. Todays bands just seem to whine about the same old crap or really have anything to say that really says anything at all. The bands back in the day told stories through their music and it all had a meaning.... Not just hate songs and 'feal sorry for me songs'. Classic rock is definately above the punk of today.

Obviously you have not heard real punk. Blink 182, and New Found Glory are not punk. They are bands made of people that were rejected by every girl they asked out in highschool and they have carried their sorrow to this day. I am talking about sick bands. Anti-flag, AFI, NOFX.

These bands all have political value and assesment in their lyrics. Most of the lryics created for classic rock are made while the writer is trippin off acid. While classic rock tells you a story of butterflies living with people in the elvin kingdom, punk looks at the real world today, and they bring that through their music.

Sure the guitar chords are simple, and the drum beat is somewhat repetitive for most bands, but not all. The two different genres of music were created for different reasons. Classic rock, there is a flow, but no real beat. It is good music to get high off of, or drunk. Punk has a consistent rythm and beat with the guitar base and drums. This consistency pumps people up, and gets them amped for the message that they wish to portray in their music.


I suggest you download some songs from those bands I mentioned above. From NOFX download "kill all the rock stars" and "dont call me white", from Anti-Flag I suggest you download "panama deception", and "911 for peace", and from AFI i suggest you download "lost souls". If you listen to the words and put them in context of society you will see things in a whole other way. Therefore, the lyrical value of punk, is much higher than that of classic rock.

If you want me to analyze any lyrics from punk bands that you have heard and think are ridiculous, send them to me and I am willing to examine them, and show you what they mean through the mind of a politically concerned person.

[Anonymouse]

Surfer you are going off the subject line because my original post dealt with the White Stripes ripping off of Led Zeppelin and the Pixies. It is an established fact that their style is nothing but a rip off going back to classic rock. What are you doing is trying to argue opinion with opinion. Most people on earth recognize classic rock as being the first of its kind and hence why it's classic, nothing can compare to it, as you even noted the guitar skills for punk are nothing like those of the classic rock era. As for the rest its just opinion vs opinion.

However getting back to the original point, I don't appreciate bands getting notoriety for ripping off of older more talented bands who started it all.

[Dorobo]

Hmm, um, well, er, yeah he's right. I'd just be arguing my opinion here. Start a thread about punk rock and then we could shout at each other to no end.

Ah yes and one more thing. Is it really that difficult to type dorobo? Or, at the very least doro. There is a slight difference between an extinct bird and a thief.

[surferarmo]

well I guess thats true. rip offs arent cool.