Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

[yerazhishda]

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The only drawback to this whole situation is that Armenia needs Georgia for transit and now the Russian-Georgia border is closed...at least until Georgia gets a new pro-Russian leader.

So pretty much Armenia is screwed in terms of trade with Russia? Damn why can't we have just one god-damn port on the Black Sea?!

[RSNATION]

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Any chance that Turkey or Azerbaijan will get involved; their holy pipeline is in danger.

Not a chance. Though it would be funny to see the Azeris try to start something with Russia and then get their asses handed to them.

I sincerely hope the Russians knock it out. It would be great for Armenia. Sure, the pipeline is only responsible for 2% of the world oil output but it generated enough revenue to make the Azeris bothersome. It would be a great victory if their distribution outlet is severed.

The only drawback to this whole situation is that Armenia needs Georgia for transit and now the Russian-Georgia border is closed...at least until Georgia gets a new pro-Russian leader.

[yerazhishda]

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source: http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008...er-war/?page=3

"Early Saturday, Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said the Vaziani military base on the outskirts of the Georgian capital was bombed by warplanes during the night and that bombs fell in the area of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline.

Any chance that Turkey or Azerbaijan will get involved? Their holy pipeline is in danger.

[RSNATION]

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source: http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008...er-war/?page=3

"Early Saturday, Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said the Vaziani military base on the outskirts of the Georgian capital was bombed by warplanes during the night and that bombs fell in the area of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline. He also said two other Georgian military bases were hit and that warplanes bombed the Black Sea port city of Poti, which has a sizable oil shipment facility.

Utiashvili said there apparently were significant casualties and damage in the attacks, but that further details would not be known until the morning.

Earlier, Georgia's Foreign Ministry accused Russian aircraft of bombing two military air bases, inflicting some casualties and destroying several military aircraft. Rustavi 2 television said four people were killed and five wounded at the Marneuli air base."

[North Pole]

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MEDVEDEV: Georgia xxxxxles international law, the killers of Russian citizens anywhere in the world are facing inevitable retribution.

China is firm on the Russian side. President Hu Jintao told this to Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.


MEDVEDEV: GEORGIA xxxxxLES INTERNATIONAL LAW

Medvedev believes the Georgian assault on South Ossetia represents a gross violation of agreements for Russian-led international peace-keeping in that independence-seeking territory.
President Medvedev has been speaking about this at an emergency sitting of his National Security Council:

The Russian military presence in South Ossetia complies with international law and is aimed at enforcing peace. As ever throughout its history, Russia guarantees security in the Caucasus. The action by Georgia flouts Russia’s mandate for peace-keeping and amounts to a blatant aggression. The victims are Russian peace-keepers and local people.

About a dozen Russian soldiers are killed. The attackers on them included members of what was supposed to act as a Georgian peace-keeping force. The civilian deaths are in the dozens and continue to mount. Most of these old folk, women and children were Russian passport holders.

Defending Russian nationals worldwide is a key part of my job as President. This is the line of action on the Russian side. The killers of Russian citizens anywhere in the world are facing inevitable retribution.
China is firm on the Russian side. President Hu Jintao told this to Prime Minister Vladimir Putin at a meeting with him in Beijing on Friday.

Mr Putin accused Georgia of violating the universal Olympic truce:

Ever since inception, the Olympic Games have been an occasion to hold fire in conflicts in all parts of the civilized world. Georgia has openly defied this accepted rule. Russia hopes the Commonwealth of Independent States will denounce the Georgian action and press for an immediate ceasefire in the conflict area.

http://www.ruvr.ru/main.php?lng=eng&q=30732&cid=56&p=08.08.2008

Georgian troops were even shooting at the Russian peacekeepers.

From BBC:

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has accused Georgian troops of attacking Russian peacekeepers in South Ossieta.

VIDEO -- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7549971.stm


America supports the terrorist state of Georgia.

[HayotzAmrotz]

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Exactly. But there's a problem they seemed to have overlooked; Saakashvili was already growing ever more unpopular in Georgia. I'll be that his political career may be coming to an end soon after an inevitable backlash of his failed war. The US will have to find a new stooge.

In a just world Saakashvili should be brought before The Hague Tribunal for War Crimes and charged with war crimes. But the Western hypocrats will naturally block those moves, that's why I suggest that once the Georgians kick him out of the country, once he becomes an ordinary citizen and moves to West, the Ossetians/Russians should kidnap him Eichmann style http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann and put him before a court in Russian Federation.

[RSNATION]

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And here come the Cossacks to bring joy, cheer, and good tidings for Georgia

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/09/russia.georgia1

Armed Cossacks pour in to fight Georgians
Neighbours mobilise in anger at Tblisi's attack on enclave

Tom Parfitt in Vladikavkaz, North Ossetia
The Guardian, Saturday August 9 2008
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Hundreds, possibly thousands, of volunteer fighters from Russia were mobilising to enter the war in Georgia's breakaway republic of South Ossetia last night.

Units of armed Cossacks from across the North Caucasus region which borders Georgia were poised to join the battle for the separatists' capital, Tskhinvali.

In North Ossetia, the region of Russia which shares cultural links and a border with South Ossetia, lists of men willing to fight against Georgian forces were drawn up. Vitaly Khubayev, 35, from the capital, Vladikavkaz, told the Guardian: "There are already two busloads of fighters leaving for Tskhinvali every day. They give you a uniform on the way and you get issued with weapons once you arrive. If I didn't have three children I'd have gone."

The two Ossetias are historically inseparable and residents of the northern republic were furious yesterday at what they described as the "Georgian fascist attack" on their neighbours.

Many said they were willing to take up arms and travel to defend their relatives across the border in South Ossetia. Valentin Tekhti, 67, a teacher, said: "Our Ossetian brothers are dying. If we get the call, every man who can stand on two legs will go to fight."

Amiran Khubetsov, a doctor, said: "A nation is under bombardment in the land it has occupied for hundreds of years. The world must not ignore this aggression."

At a special meeting of the UN security council yesterday morning, the United States called on the Kremlin to prevent irregulars entering South Ossetia via the 4km Roki tunnel, the republic's only link with Russia. But at a meeting with the US president, George Bush, in Bejing, the Russian prime minister, Vladimir Putin, admitted "many volunteers" were heading to South Ossetia and it would be "very hard to maintain peace".

Under Russia law, Cossacks - the descendants of runaway serfs and outlaws who in the past were employed to protect the country's southern border - are allowed to carry arms and carry out policing functions in cooperation with interior ministry forces.

At the headquarters of the Terek Cossacks in Vladikavkaz yesterday a group of men sat under portraits of fierce looking warriors with drooping moustaches watching television coverage of Georgian artillery shelling Tskhinvali. One man said there would be a meeting today to discuss forming volunteer units.

In Volgograd the leader of the Don Cossacks, Viktor Vodolatsky, called on all Cossacks under 40 to volunteer. Reports said 100 men from the region had already left for Tskhinvali. "We must help our South Ossetian brothers," he said.

Irregular troops from the north Caucasus played an important role in the conflicts that saw both Georgia's breakaway regions, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, secede in the early 1990s.

In Abkhazia, Cossack and Chechen units fought side by side against Georgian troops, despite being historical enemies. Abkhazia has promised to help South Ossetia in its conflict with Georgia.

Ossetians in Vladikavkaz yesterday said they were hoping for a decisive strike by the Russian army to drive Georgia's forces out of South Ossetia. There were emotional scenes in the city, as hundreds of protesters, mostly women, gathered outside the regional government headquarters and shouted, "Russia, save us!"

Aelita Dzhioyeva, 41, a lawyer who fled Tskhinvali on Thursday evening, showed text messages on her mobile phone from relatives still sheltering in a basement in the city. One message read: "We are dying. Ask the government for help."

Dzhioyeva said: "Our men will stay and fight until the last drop of blood, but our old people and children must be saved. We are calling on the Kremlin to intervene and create a humanitarian corridor for them to escape."

Shota Kochiev, 60, said: "This is America's doing. They are supporting Georgia's mad lust for new land - our land."

About 2,000 refugees from South Ossetia, mostly women and children, have so far been bussed to Russia and are staying in hotels around Vladikavkaz.

[RSNATION]

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Are you kidding me? Don't you think the US could have prevented this war from happening - at least for the short term? America has entire networks of officials working on this sort of stuff and this comes as a "surprise". Give me a break. America wants this war to happen because it makes Russia look like the bad guy.

Exactly. But there's a problem they seemed to have overlooked; Saakashvili was already growing ever more unpopular in Georgia. I'll be that his political career may be coming to an end soon after an inevitable backlash of his failed war. The US will have to find a new stooge.

[yerazhishda]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Are you kidding me? Don't you think the US could have prevented this war from happening - at least for the short term? America has entire networks of officials working on this sort of stuff and this comes as a "surprise". Give me a break. America wants this war to happen because it makes Russia look like the bad guy.

[RSNATION]

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HAHAHA GEORGIA REALLY SH#T THE BED. MESS WITH THE BULL AND YOU GET THE HORNS

http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSL8226827?sp=true

Update 1-Georgia to impose martial law, port bombed-official

TBILISI, Aug 9 (Reuters) - Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili will declare martial law in a few hours time, the secretary of Georgia's Security Council said early on Saturday.

"The president is going to declare a state of martial law within a few hours," Kakha Lomaia told Reuters. "Russia has bombed the (Black Sea) port of Poti and the military base at Senaki. We think Russia has started to bomb civil and economic infrastructure."

In the port of Poti, the Russian fighter jets hit container tankers and a shipbuilding plant, Georgia's Deputy Economic Development Minister Vato Lezhava told Reuters. He said between 8 and 11 Russian jets were involved in the attack. (Reporting by James Kilner and Margarita Antidze; writing by Conor Sweeney)
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