America's Financial Crisis

[KanadaHye]

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I really don't think it matters if the rich are taxed more... they send the money to Israel either way

[Haykakan]

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I don't like what this article implies. I do not think the government should tax anyone above20% and if it taxes people 20 percent then it should be a tax on everyone and it should offer way more then the USA does now. Punishing success by taxing it is stupid in my opinion. I think Canada has a way better system then the USA but again i would not tax anyone above 20% there either. The USA can make the most positive changes for ts people since its system is so xxxxed up but it will probably happen only if this kind of protest grows into a rebellion. Bring home our troops, stop waging unjust wars, spend more on your own people and less on scifi weapons and other countries.. there are real simple fixes to the problems facing the USA but special interests wont let these changes happen. Special interest groups need to be killed for good!

[KanadaHye]

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What the Wall Street protests mean in Canada

Armine Yalnizyan
Globe and Mail Blog
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:47AM EDT


This is not the stuff of usual protests. Over the past month, a little idea from a Vancouver outfit has mushroomed into a cross-continent movement.

Occupy Wall Street, kicked off by Adbusters in July and coming to Toronto this weekend, has already spread to 70 American cities and is going global as protestors challenge society to rethink how the economy and the government operates, and for whom.


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It’s an awakening -- a populist call for that “adult conversation” many thought would take place after the global economic calamity of 2008. It didn’t then. But it may now, thanks to Occupy Wall Street, in a city near you.

Like the Tea Party protesters, Occupy Wall Street was triggered by outrage over the fact that the very people who created the Great Recession were protected from financial pain courtesy of citizens with a lot less money who couldn’t duck the mess. Now the institutions that soaked up hundreds of billions of dollars in government assistance are vigorously gutting government attempts to reform banking and investment practices that led to the disaster.

Unlike the Tea Party protesters, the folks occupying Wall Street and elsewhere believe governments should be part of the solution.

Even without a clear ask, the protesters’ simple presence makes the point that the interests of the elite have been well-served in the run-up to and aftermath of the Great Recession. The concerns of the vast majority have been neglected.

The same government is supposed to serve them both. It’s no coincidence that the online sister movement to Occupy Wall Street is “We are the 99 Percent”. They’re drawing attention to the fact that too much inequality corrupts democracy.

As one protester put it: “It's time to get together and re-evaluate, not necessarily do away with the system, but figure out where we went wrong and figure out how we're going to do it right now."

Here’s how things go wrong, on both sides of the border. The richest 1 per cent of Canadians took a third of all income gains in the decade preceding the recession, when the economy was firing on all cylinders. Not even during the Roaring '20s did that elite group capture such a large share of the fruits of growth.

It’s often said the rich can’t do much to help the rest of us, because there really aren’t that many rich people in Canada. We may not have as many millionaires as in the U.S. but, like the Americans, Canada’s millionaires are taxed at rates last seen in the 1920s. They can afford to help out a little more.

You don’t have to be a millionaire to make a difference. Raise the top tax rate by 3 per cent on those making over $250,000 -- a round number which marks the entry gate for the fabled 1 per cent - - and, at 32 per cent, you’d still pay less than the 33 per cent rate in the U.S. at that income level. It would raise about $2-billion, the federal share of, say, a national child-care program.

A 35 per cent tax bracket for Canadians whose income is higher than $750,000 -- the U.S. top rate, except there it’s applied on incomes above $373,650 -- would yield $1.2-billion. Over a decade, that could pay for the federal share of fixing drinking-water and waste-water infrastructure across Canada.

Canada’s rich could make a difference. Our governments should ask them to step up to the plate.

But governments are increasingly tangled up in elite interests. The latest example is Finance Minister Jim Flaherty ‘s drive to marshall support to scuttle a proposed financial transactions tax, a mechanism that could help slow down the wild gyrations of the stock market we’ve witnessed of late. Flaherty and other G20 finance ministers will be meeting in Paris just as thousands of Canadians gather to Occupy Toronto on Bay Street. He will be protecting certain interests, just not those of the majority of Canadians.

Joseph Stiglitz, former chief economist for the World Bank, called this capture of public policy government “of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1%”. Chair of the panel that oversaw the TARP bailouts of Wall Street, Elizabeth Warren, makes it clear that nobody got rich by themselves. Everyone benefits from a social contract.

When the rich say they are no longer willing to uphold their end of the social contract, it’s time to occupy Wall Street. When our governments say the same thing, it’s time to wake up.

Democracies are not supposed to produce an economic and political system that primarily benefits the 1 per cent.

Occupy Wall Street is partly about Wall Street, and Bay Street, and taxes. But it’s mostly about getting governments to serve the interests of the other 99 per cent. It’s about reclaiming democracy. It’s about demanding better results.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle2199652/

[KanadaHye]

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According to Iran, these protests are the collapse of Capitalism.... I thought it collapsed long ago, specifically when government started bailing out the money men.

[Haykakan]

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Yeh he looks like one of those aholes i would like to have some alone time with. My sister is participating at these rallys and she says they are pretty big with many people taking part. I hope they get a lot bigger.

[KanadaHye]

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O'Leary is one of the business "experts" on the show Dragon's Den (in Canada) and Shark Tank (in USA). He usually talks down to people just because he's wealthy so he's naturally on the side of banks and corporations.

[Haykakan]

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That reporter was an ahole. The guy being interviewed did a great job. I hope these movements succeedand bring back power to people instead of coorporations.

[KanadaHye]

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O'Leary Gets Schooled

[KanadaHye]

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United States (1812-1814 and 1861-1865)

The United States has experienced two currency collapses. The first was the Continental Currency ("Not worth a Continental") the American colonists used to finance the Revolutionary War. While the Americans won their independence, their currency was destroyed in the process.

The second were the Confederation notes. In an effort to finance the civil war with the north, the Confederate States of America issued vast amounts of money. At one point, the Secretary of the Treasury recommended that counterfeit money be utilized. Anyone holding a counterfeit bill was to exchange it for a government bond. The government would then stamp it "valid" and spend it.

Below is a chart showing the falling value of the current American currency since inception:

[Lernakan]

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What the Federal Reserve is up to, and how we got here.


Everyone should watch this video. It's funny and informative and will only take about 5 minutes of your time.