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  • KanadaHye
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    Originally posted by Federate View Post
    Good point.

    As for Hezbollah's ideology, if you mean "Islamism" then you might be surprised to know that Hizb has published a new manifesto where it drops much Islamist rhetoric. http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/...5AT3VK20091130
    ""Our problem with them (the Israelis) is not that they are J3ws, but that they are occupiers who are raping our land and holy places," Nasrallah said."

    Can't argue with that.

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  • Federate
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    Originally posted by HayotzAmrotz View Post
    Hizballah takes its cue exclusively from Iran, it will not support Turks because Armenia's strategic partnership with Iran is of extreme importance to both of our countries, at this stage anyway.
    Good point.

    As for Hezbollah's ideology, if you mean "Islamism" then you might be surprised to know that Hizb has published a new manifesto where it drops much Islamist rhetoric. http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/...5AT3VK20091130

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  • KanadaHye
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    Originally posted by HayotzAmrotz View Post
    Hizballah takes its cue exclusively from Iran, it will not support Turks because Armenia's strategic partnership with Iran is of extreme importance to both of our countries, at this stage anyway.
    Turks are sitting on Byzantine land so I'd have to say Iran has the upper hand in the region and its the Turks that are on rented property.

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  • HayotzAmrotz
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    Let's be honest here. If Hezbollah had a choice would they support Turks or Armenians, given today's political situation? Given they utilise religion, would they see past the religious difference, or just support the "Muslim side"?
    Hizballah takes its cue exclusively from Iran, it will not support Turks because Armenia's strategic partnership with Iran is of extreme importance to both of our countries, at this stage anyway.

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  • Mos
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    Re: Hezbollah

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    Prior to the Young Turks taking power, a lot of these parts of the Ottoman Empire were led by Armenian leaders. There is no "Muslim side" when it comes to real politics, it's about who has more friends in higher places.
    But organisations driven by strict ideology can't always afford to go against their ideology which has made them powerful, in order to full fill "realpolitik". The reason I'm asking is that my way of assessing if we should do meaningful friendship with a group or not is heavily based on their historical and current relations with the Turks. For example, in this manner, we can be very close friends with the Cypriots (and we are).

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  • KanadaHye
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    Let's be honest here. If Hezbollah had a choice would they support Turks or Armenians, given today's political situation? Given they utilise religion, would they see past the religious difference, or just support the "Muslim side"?
    Prior to the Young Turks taking power, a lot of these parts of the Ottoman Empire were led by Armenian leaders. There is no "Muslim side" when it comes to real politics, it's about who has more friends in higher places.

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  • Mos
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    Let's be honest here. If Hezbollah had a choice would they support Turks or Armenians, given today's political situation? Given they utilise religion, would they see past the religious difference, or just support the "Muslim side"?

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  • Federate
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    How is Hezbollah's relations with the Turks?
    Historically has been cold due to years of Turkish support of Israel plus the heavy Armenian lobby in Lebanon and Nasrallah's good relations with Armenians. However, the Flotilla incident of last year has warmed relations to a certain extent with Nasrallah praising Erdogan's tough stance, though such feeling was found even more in the Sunni parts of Lebanon such as Tripoli.

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  • KanadaHye
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    How is Hezbollah's relations with the Turks?
    I wouldn't trust these polls as far as I can throw a yarmulke but....



    Turks hold least favorable view of Hamas, Hezbollah, Pew poll shows

    Turks offer the least positive ratings for Hamas and Hezbollah among the countries surveyed, while Hamas has a favorable view in Egypt, a Pew poll has shown.


    The survey, conducted between April 12 and May 7 by the Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project, finds that Hamas receives mixed ratings across the Muslim publics surveyed. Jordanian Muslims express the most support -- 60 percent have a favorable view of Hamas -- while Muslims in Turkey offer the least positive ratings (9 percent favorable and 67 percent unfavorable).

    In Egypt and Turkey, attitudes toward Hezbollah are generally negative. Just 30 percent of Muslims in Egypt, and even fewer (5 percent) in Turkey, offer favorable views of the Lebanon-based organization.

    http://www.todayszaman.com/news-2445...oll-shows.html

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  • Mos
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    How is Hezbollah's relations with the Turks?

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