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  • The American Empire


    The End of the Affair
    Obama and the antiwar movement


    December 1, 2008
    by Justin Raimondo

    As the euphoria of the Obama cult builds toward a climax and the pundits declaim the advent of Something Big, it's the small changes that concern me, particularly those that touch directly on my job, which is to sniff out the War Party wherever it is presently burrowed. The election of Barack Obama has been the signal for many of them to migrate like fleas from the carcasses of the campaigns they attached themselves to and hop on the warm body of the new administration, which presents a rather large target. It's a new day, and in the age of Obama, the War Party's battalions are massed on the ostensible Left. Now that's the kind of change I can believe in.

    Ah, yes, the small changes, particularly the ones that concern me personally: those are what I'm really interested in, quite naturally, and the biggest change – and I have to say it comes as a welcome relief – will be in my targets. Instead of having to deal with all those tiresome neoconservatives with Republican leanings, I'll be dealing with a whole new crowd. Of course, a lot of veteran neocons will turn up, particularly at the fringes of the incoming administration, but the real core of the War Party's strength will be in the State Department, with Hillary Clinton lording over a new nest of neocon hatchlings, albeit of the social-democratic variety. In alliance with the "humanitarian" interventionists, whose shtick is sending troops to places like Kosovo, Darfur, Congo, and Burma, this new, reinvented War Party is ready and willing to open up several new fronts in our endless "war on terrorism," with potentially cataclysmic consequences for America and the world.

    The War Party's decisive influence in the Obama administration is going to be rolled out on Monday, so that even the most craven Obama-bots on the Left will be left wondering who and what they voted for. Hillary the hawk at State, Bush's warlord Robert Gates at Defense, and Gen. Jim Jones – who wants to station U.S. troops in the occupied territories under the rubric of NATO! – as national security adviser to the president. Yes, antiwar voters took a chance on Obama, reasoning that anything would be better than four more years of Bushian belligerence, yet now they discover to their chagrin that the dice are loaded.

    The same old crowd that brought us the invasion of Iraq is back, if not in full force or purest form, then at least in worrying numbers and high positions. The cries of "betrayal" are already being heard. The response from the Obama cult among the liberal landed gentry, in particular the ones who own choice pieces of editorial real estate in the nation's top newspapers, was delivered by E. J. Dionne from his perch at the Washington Post:

    "In electing Barack Obama, the country traded the foreign policy of the second President Bush for the foreign policy of the first President Bush. That is the meaning of Obama's apparent decision to keep Robert Gates on as defense secretary and also to select Hillary Clinton as secretary of state."

    This delights Dionne, even as it depresses those anti-interventionist voters who thought they had an ally in the White House. His message to us is clear enough:

    "The truth about Obama's worldview was hidden in plain sight in his most politically consequential foreign policy speech. Antiwar Democrats cheered Obama for addressing a rally against the Iraq war in Chicago's Federal Plaza on Oct. 2, 2002. His opposition to the war was a major asset in his nomination struggle with Clinton.

    "Obama did indeed denounce the impending war as 'dumb,' 'rash,' and 'based not on reason but on passion.' But in retrospect, the speech may be most notable for other things Obama said that separated him from some in his antiwar audience."

    In short: screw you, buddy, and you better get used to it.

    Amid all the talk about the reentry of the Republican "realists" into the circle of power in Washington and the hosannas to the rising influence of Brent Scowcroft, one has to remember that this is the same gang that brought us the first Gulf war and George H. W. Bush's "New World Order." It was a war to keep the emir of Kuwait on his throne, one that started after the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, gave Saddam Hussein the green light to cross the border with his troops. Out of the slaughter of that war arose the tide of anti-American radicalism that fueled al-Qaeda's recruiting and rationalized the stationing of our troops in Saudi Arabia. We had both feet in the quagmire, in Bush I's day; we just weren't up to our necks quite yet.

    Scowcroft and his friends are valorized by Washington's cocktail party peaceniks for not going all the way to Baghdad and toppling the regime. These people are conveniently forgetting the dicey origins of that war, its official rationale – wasn't it James Baker, who crowed "Job, jobs, jobs" in an argument of unsurpassed vulgarity? – not to mention the horrific slaughter of the Iraqi "army," which at that point was mainly boys and old men with few arms and even less willingness to fight. The first Iraq war paved the way for the second and the current occupation, as the Clinton administration took up the anti-Saddam campaign and sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act, which set the whole disastrous process in motion and led us to the present moment.

    Dionne goes on to note that Obama said "I don't oppose all wars" "not once but five times." Dionne praises Obama for mentioning all the "good" wars, singling out the liberals' two favorites – World War II and the Civil War – as well as "the battle against terrorism after the attacks of Sept. 11." This latter phrase is indistinguishable from George W. Bush's multi-generational twilight struggle, which Obama will continue, albeit on a different battleground, namely Afghanistan and Pakistan. So don't worry, all you hawks out there: this isn't the end of the good times!

    Dionne's point, however, is this:

    "Obama's national security choices are already causing grumbling from parts of the antiwar left, even if Obama made clear six years ago that while he was with them on Iraq, he was not one of them."

    If you "progressives" are now feeling like someone who's been kicked out of bed before dawn, on one pretext or another – "Boy, was I drunk last night! I don't remember a thing!" – well, then, you can't say you weren't warned.

    Well, somebody was drunk, though it probably wasn't Obama. After all, he's not the one who hooked up with someone he thought was cool, only to wake up with… Brent Scowcroft!

    NOTES IN THE MARGIN

    Dionne mentions the Center for a New American Security (CNAS) as the Obama administration’s source of talent and a key player in the policymaking apparatus currently being assembled. Go here for my take on CNAS. Shorter version: kind of like the Project for a New American Century, except different…

    ~ Justin Raimondo


    As the euphoria of the Obama cult builds toward a climax and the pundits declaim the advent of Something Big, it's the small changes that concern me, - Justin Raimondo for Antiwar.com
    Achkerov kute.

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    Re: The American Empire

    A little off topic but Alex Jones seems to have his finger right on the problem.

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    Alex Jones on 590 KLBJ "What Have We Become"


    Part-1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhapA...eature=related

    Part-2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOH6Z...eature=related

    Part-3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7dpu...eature=related

    Part-4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ULFr...eature=related

    Part-5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSIW7...eature=related

    Part-6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgJi0...eature=related

    Part-7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b54YH...eature=related

    Part-8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CupZn...eature=related
    Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

    Նժդեհ


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    • #3
      Re: The American Empire

      This "The End of the Affair" article was probably one of the most poorly written and pointless articles I've read from what seems to be a pundit. It is just rhetoric; there is no substance of any sort.

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        Re: The American Empire

        Originally posted by Stark Evade View Post
        This "The End of the Affair" article was probably one of the most poorly written and pointless articles I've read from what seems to be a pundit. It is just rhetoric; there is no substance of any sort.
        Because you're dense and you can't comprehend the article is a reflection of you, not the writer.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #5
          Re: The American Empire

          Inauguration Day, 2009: A Day of Mourning
          For the victims of future wars, and for our old republic

          by Justin Raimondo

          When Thomas Jefferson was inaugurated, he sought to dismantle the evolving Federalist tradition of pomp and circumstance. In a ceremonial sense, royalism seemed to have been restored, or so it appeared to him. As this blogger put it, "Dressed in simple attire, Jefferson walked over to the Capitol with a phalanx of riflemen, friends, and fellow citizens from his home state of Virginia."

          In these last days of the American Empire, such austere republicanism would be considered impossibly quaint. Having long ago morphed into Jefferson's worst nightmare, the closer we get to the end, the more glamorous our inaugurals become. The poorer we are, the more millions we'll throw at a ceremony that is really the crowning of a monarch – and not just any old king, but an emperor bestriding the globe.

          Appearances must be kept up. Like a bankrupt living on a palatial estate – one step away from foreclosure – we bask in imperial splendor even as the repo man comes knocking at the door.

          At a time such as ours, the spectacle of xxxeled and gowned courtiers feasting on inaugural canapés is beyond tacky. The Bourbons partied, too, right up to the eve of the French Revolution. Amid all the sounding of trumpets and the hailing of the chief, however, there is something hollow about all this unseemly extravagance.

          The Obama cult has imbued our new president with superhuman powers: they expect and enjoy the spectacle. Yet the relentless lionizing of this messianic figure is ironic, because here is an American chief executive who will doubtless become aware of his own limitations rather quickly. America is a bankrupt empire engaged in two overseas wars, with troops on every continent and bases ringing the globe. It's unsustainable, and our ruling elites know it.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #6
            Re: The American Empire

            Inaugural Inanity

            by Becky Akers

            Ten thousand National Guardsmen, 7,500 active-duty soldiers, 25,000 cops from "99 federal, state and local law-enforcement agencies." A city "honeycombed" with "communication command centers" spying on supposedly free Americans with 5,265 surveillance cameras. And, as if we aren’t already up to our eyeballs in goons, an entire brigade of the US Army on call. The cost for this hyperbolic hysteria? Hundreds of millions at a time when many taxpayers can’t scrape together the next month’s mortgage. All for an inauguration that has attracted no "specific threats."

            "Critics" contend that this is overkill. Go figure.

            The piranhas swarming the security food-chain beg to differ. After all, they aren’t squandering their own money to guard against every conceivable threat, whether it’s a discarded cigarette igniting Obama’s hot air or the Almighty hurling a meteorite at DC’s massed mountebanks. Michael Chertoff, large intestine at the Department of Homeland Security, pompously assured CNN, "We are literally going to be watching this every minute between now and the conclusion of events on the 20th." Having turned Washington into an armed camp, this twit added, "You don't want to make this like an armed camp because it spoils the event itself."

            Then there’s White House chief of staff Josh Bolton. He equates dreaming up the remotest of risks and spending other people’s money to prevent them with common courtesy: "In the post-9/11 world, this isn't just good manners, good government; it's a national [sic for ‘homeland’] security responsibility." Geez, Josh, get with the program. Your boss has been tossing off the Nazi terminology for 8 years now: time you did, too.

            The excuse for militarizing the inauguration is the same tired one trotted out for militarizing the country: 9/11. Gordon Johndroe is a spokesman for the National Security Council who apparently boasts as little historical perspective as Chertoff and Bolton do common sense: "…obviously the world is a substantially different place in 2009," he opined to CBS.

            Yo, Gordie: politicians have ever embroiled their subjects in wars, attacks, ambushes, assaults, and incursions that invite reprisals. Farmers in ancient Israel feared Philistine raids thanks to their kings’ provocations; medieval serfs huddled inside their lords’ castles lest the enemies those lords made massacre them; French and British settlers in the New World kept a musket within reach while plowing their fields. 9/11 was just another link in a very long chain, not the cataclysmic break Our Rulers allege.

            Naturally, Gordie and his buddies understand none of this. Nor do they see the irony in protecting politicians from us when we’re the ones needing protection from them.

            Some of our millions will pay everyone’s favorite bureaucracy to strut about DC during the inauguration, searching the people footing its bills as though they’re criminals. Whoops, I misspeak: criminals usually merit the dignity of a warrant before a search commences. Not so the throngs jamming the capital – who are guilty, I admit, but only of criminal stupidity. Yet the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), steadfast stomper of the Fourth Amendment for the last 7 years, will take its war on the Constitution from the country’s airports to its capital. "TSA spokesman John Allen [said]… that 300 TSA workers from all over the country are being flown in to Washington, D.C. to work security for special events. They will screen guests as though they were coming into the airport."

            Whoa-ho! That oughta endanger everyone but good: these are the nitwits who can’t discern plastic props from weapons. They actually called a bomb squad a few days ago when a screener uprooted a forgotten, fake grenade from an actor’s bag at Los Angeles International Airport. Said squad helpfully pointed out that "the weapon wasn’t live because it didn’t have a firing pin or explosive." No matter. "It was a practice grenade; a prohibited item," sniffed one of the TSA’s leeches, Nico Melendez. I hope but I doubt that he blushed and stammered while trying to excuse such lunacy.

            You can say this for the TSA and the millions of Americans cheering an emperor who has no clothes: they certainly deserve one another.

            http://www.lewrockwell.com/akers/akers101.html
            Achkerov kute.

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