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    Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

    Originally posted by USAToday
    The 2008 results, to be released today, are based on 54,000 interviews with a margin of error of plus or minus 0.5%. It finds that, despite population growth and immigration adding nearly 50 million more adults, almost all denominations have lost ground since the first ARIS data was released in 1990.
    Atheism/Agnosticism/No religious identity is up.

    Click to see cool interactive graph
    [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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    Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

    Many people originally emigrated to US to free themselves from religious persecutions in Europe. US remains one of the most religious tolerant countries in the world (even if someone does not believe in any form of religion). This is constitutionally guaranteed to us as residents of this Nation.

    This is outstanding but……

    Here is the official language of US Department of State in regards to foreign policies:

    Given the U.S. commitment to religious freedom, and to the international covenants that guarantee it as the inalienable right of every human being, the United States seeks to:

    - Promote freedom of religion and conscience throughout the world as a fundamental human right and as a source of stability for all countries;
    - Assist newly formed democracies in implementing freedom of religion and conscience;
    - Assist religious and human rights NGOs in promoting religious freedom;
    - Identify and denounce regimes that are severe persecutors of their citizens or others on the basis of religious belief.

    Anybody see a problem here?

    ERROR: The request could not be satisfied
    http://www.state.gov/g/drl/irf/
    B0zkurt Hunter

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      Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

      No, why make people guess? Just say what you mean.

      And while the country provides these freedoms, I would not say the US is the most religiously tolerant, especially not for non-believers.
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        Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

        Originally posted by Siggie View Post
        No, why make people guess? Just say what you mean.

        And while the country provides these freedoms, I would not say the US is the most religiously tolerant, especially not for non-believers.


        Siggie, I always say what I mean. That is one of my problems.

        I was just trying to see if people realize what all of this beautiful statements really mean especially the last sentence.
        This gives the US leaders the justification to intervene in other countries affairs in the name of freedom, democracy, and religious intolerance when in reality is none of their business.

        OK, then where in the world is more tolerant?

        I personally do not object at all to Atheism. I am under the belief that man has lost/manipulated the true message of God but I will continue to stay loyal to my faith.

        Question: Do Atheists have a certain rules/code that they follow???

        Thanks in advance.
        B0zkurt Hunter

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          Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

          People with no spiritual zeal can still be pursuaded to irrationally fear half the world through propaganda. You just have to make them fear for their lives.

          Btw, what are you bets on what distribution of religions/lack thereof Americans will subscribe to 20 years from now?

          I can guess for Western Europe: My bet is 50% Islam, 50% Atheist/Agnostic.
          Last edited by jgk3; 03-09-2009, 01:33 PM.

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            Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

            Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
            Siggie, I always say what I mean. That is one of my problems.

            I was just trying to see if people realize what all of this beautiful statements really mean especially the last sentence.
            This gives the US leaders the justification to intervene in other countries affairs in the name of freedom, democracy, and religious intolerance when in reality is none of their business.
            Yeah, I did see that, but it wasn't relevant to the topic so I didn't think that was your point.

            OK, then where in the world is more tolerant?
            Parts of Europe.


            Question: Do Atheists have a certain rules/code that they follow???

            Thanks in advance.
            No, Atheists do not have certain rules or codes. You are making the very common mistake of assuming that morality comes from religion. It comes from society. So, atheists aren't amoral.
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              Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

              Come to think of it?
              the relevance of my question could indirectly imply that just maybe, under Atheism, such Government policies will no longer be needed….…..as it seems to be still needed in a Democracy that has a separation of Church and State.

              Gosh Siggie, you are so defensive. I never implied lack of morality when I asked about any set of codes or such. I am sorry if I came across wrong. I will do some research on this subject to understand it better.

              Sheers
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                Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

                I'm not being defensive. What did you mean by rules/codes then?
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                  Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

                  Ok I'm waiting for someone to say Atheism is a religion.
                  this post = teh win.

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                    Re: Religion in Decline? Shifting Religious Identities

                    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                    I'm not being defensive. What did you mean by rules/codes then?
                    I really was referring to our values (Code of conduct in my limited ancient mentality)…….but come to think of it, if I am not wrong, our values come from our culture which is much older than religion. That is for sure.
                    Last edited by Eddo211; 03-09-2009, 06:28 PM.
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