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    Mexico: The next Iraq?

    March 25: MSNBC's Contessa Brewer talks with retired U.S. Army General Barry McCaffrey about officials warning President Obama that drug cartels have become "criminal insurgents."


  • #2
    Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

    If there were no demand, there would be no supply. spending hundreds of millions of dollars into Mexico or elsewhere to fight drug traffickers would certainly not solve America's drug problem. The problem lies at home and as long as more and more Americans continue to consume huge amount of drugs.

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    • #3
      Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

      Most of the drug cartels in the US and in Mexico come from Colombia an ally of the US who openly grows drugs and has commited terrible atrocities, leaders were before charged on basis on violation on human rights but sadly America always give its tacit approval to allies

      Everytime the non Anglo parts of Anahuaca and Cenahuaca produce decent leaders they are usually attacked by the US or CIA, look at Allende, look at Castro, Chavez, the Sandanistsa, etc

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      • #4
        Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

        Try this one on for size. It's too big, we can't let it fail. Yeah, right. Almost completely beyond control and in complete disrepair.

        If they were not a militaristic state before, I see a junta in their future.

        The socialists are threatening and the democrats (if you can call em that) can't (or, won't stop) the violence.

        The rise of the left and continued threat of drug cartel violence at our Southern border and into South America is the biggest non-story, story of the last decade and the War on Terror/Shock and Awe in Iraq kept the media and U.S. leaders off the ball on the (and I say this sarcastically) existential threat of a failed state to our south.
        Between childhood, boyhood,
        adolescence
        & manhood (maturity) there
        should be sharp lines drawn w/
        Tests, deaths, feats, rites
        stories, songs & judgements

        - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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        • #5
          Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

          Er, sorry freaky but your posts is a little confusing, care to be a little more concise in your explanation, its confusing as you aren't naming exactly who, what and why and which you are referring to, a tad more clarity please man

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          • #6
            Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

            Since the ongoing major crack down By the US and the Mexican Government against transit routes and underground tunnels across the borders of California and Texas, the drug cartels have been battling it out over disappearing profitable routes and territory.
            It has become so bad that Mexican gang bangers (In LA) are going over to Mexico to fight for their rights. Many bodies with missing heads, these vatos are not happy. There has been talk of legalizing pot here (I think that will solve half of US illegal drug problem). National Guard is on standby.

            How should the Mexican government combat drug cartels? With everything they got without getting killed themselves.
            B0zkurt Hunter

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            • #7
              Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

              Its scary there.

              And it will only get worse.

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              • #8
                Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

                Okay, but everyone forgets the Colombians and Cubans, there are more drugs coming from them, there are Colombian cartels all over the US

                Funny thing when people say Latino gangs, they forget that can mean El Salvadorian, Guatemalan, Panamanian, etc. Mexico by far doesn't produce the ammount Colombia does and has none of the human rights abuses Colombia has but because its a US ally it can do what it wants

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                • #9
                  Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

                  Originally posted by Pedro Xaramillo View Post
                  Er, sorry freaky but your posts is a little confusing, care to be a little more concise in your explanation, its confusing as you aren't naming exactly who, what and why and which you are referring to, a tad more clarity please man
                  First, look at what the Mexican President had to do in Juarez within the last 3 months. They had to infiltrate the city with 6,000 troops to stabilize the violence laden border town.

                  Second, the last two presidental elections in Mexico almost ended in revolution with the left angered by losses some blamed on manipulation. Atleast Calderon is more proactive than Fox dealing with the drug cartel problem. During Fox's tenure, the cartels had infiltrated local and Federal police agencies.

                  Third, Mexican drug cartels have spread their operations into Southern California with marijuana growing operations in national forests and meth manufacturing labs in desert and outlying communities. Its gone beyond having distribution channels in place in the U.S. like the Columbians arranged, now they're producing in the U.S.

                  Fourth, its not the 80s anymore, the Mexican cartels are just as big now and powerful and brutal as the Colombians. And, they are on the U.S. border.

                  Fifth, you aren't any more specific than the specificity you require.
                  Last edited by freakyfreaky; 04-10-2009, 06:48 AM.
                  Between childhood, boyhood,
                  adolescence
                  & manhood (maturity) there
                  should be sharp lines drawn w/
                  Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                  stories, songs & judgements

                  - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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                  • #10
                    Re: Mexico, the next Iraq?

                    Originally posted by Anonymouse
                    The biggest sham is this stupid "War on Drugs" that is mostly led by America's never ending grip on these hypocritical "morals, morals morals."

                    Why was there never a "drug problem" prior to the middle of the 20th century? Inquisitive minds want to know.
                    War on Terror is the progeny of the War on Drugs. Was there never "terrorism" prior to 2001?

                    Neo-con psychobabble. The former promised democracy to the Muslim world, the latter promised democracy in Latin America. Both brought to fruition in a Bush presidency.

                    While democracy made gains in the 1990s, during Bush, Jr.'s presidency those gains retreated to a strong leftist resistance.

                    We can only wonder what the Middle East will look like in a decade.
                    Between childhood, boyhood,
                    adolescence
                    & manhood (maturity) there
                    should be sharp lines drawn w/
                    Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                    stories, songs & judgements

                    - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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