(NWO) New World Order

[KanadaHye]

G20 commits to $1-trillion global stimulus package

Another wave of invisible money being pumped into the system, surely to cause more inflation and interest rate hikes in the future

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/0...london237.html

Brown said the summit represented a "day the world came together to fight back against the recession."

"Today the largest countries in the world have agreed to a global plan for recovery and reform," he said. "I think the new world order is emerging and with it the foundations of a new and progressive era of international co-operation."

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So Capitalism has come to a crashing halt by greed and corruption – without regulations, Corporate Capitalism has taken over and North American's still refuse to remove their blindfolds.

The wealthiest 5% now own approx. 90% since they have successfully monopolized everything from resources to retail to mass media, and have even taken control over our governments … that’s why they have the power to give themselves trillions in bailouts with the OK of our governments.

Corporate Capitalism is like Communism – in that, it benefits only the few, the invisible elite, and destroys free markets & competition.... in turn destroying democracy & freedom.

Those that support Capitalism in it's current form will brand you as Communist or Socialist ... lazy and uneducated because they are blind to see that the same system they support and live under is the same system that is destroying them.

The trickle down in the pyramid scheme is gone. The wealthy are benefiting from big corporations with welfare bailouts on the backs of the working class. The invisible hand has become greedy, corrupt and destructive. Welcome to the New World Order, aka happiness in slavery.

[ArmSurvival]

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Good post. The G-20 summit was rife with calls to establish a "New World Order".

Its interesting, the same statesmen who call it a conspiracy to believe that they are planning a New World Order, are the same ones who talk about it at every available opportunity. People need to wake up.

[hipeter924]

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As for new economies/societies Anarcho-Capitalism is so much better, since some versions of it eliminate corporations and government, and form a society based upon free will.

[hrai]

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As for new economies/societies Anarcho-Capitalism is so much better, since some versions of it eliminate corporations and government, and form a society based upon free will.

hipeter, I take it that these versions you mention are just theoretical?
Various economic/political/social theories are excellent until people are put into the equation.
The bulk of these ideas on social reconstruction should stay, where they are now, on college campuses and surrounding coffee shops.

[KanadaHye]

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hipeter, I take it that these versions you mention are just theoretical?
Various economic/political/social theories are excellent until people are put into the equation.
The bulk of these ideas on social reconstruction should stay, where they are now, on college campuses and surrounding coffee shops.

Who's to say what system is better or worse? There have been successful societies formed with Socialism, Communism, Capitalism and variations in between. They are merely different ways of distributing the land's natural resources FAIRLY to the people. However, with Capitalism, the wealthy remain wealthy without ever being in the same system as the slaves below them provided they aren't complete morons.

[hrai]

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Who's to say what system is better or worse? There have been successful societies formed with Socialism, Communism, Capitalism and variations in between. They are merely different ways of distributing the land's natural resources FAIRLY to the people. However, with Capitalism, the wealthy remain wealthy without ever being in the same system as the slaves below them provided they aren't complete morons.

Where are the successful Communist states?
Have you lived in one? I'd love to hear your point on these.



A good book to read would be "Animal Farm" by George Orwell.

[KanadaHye]

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Where are the successful Communist states?
Have you lived in one? I'd love to hear your point on these.

A good book to read would be "Animal Farm" by George Orwell.

I've read Animal Farm, 1984 and Brave New World.... Communism fell for the same reasons Capitalism hiccups... greed and corruption. Might I add that with the advancement of technology and the possibility that you might be tracked via satellite and be taxed according to mileage traveled along with many other possible methods of privacy intrusion, the world isn't too far off from total robotic control. Big brother doesn't have to watch, machines will do the work for him.


Brave New World:
Although the novel is set in the future, it contains contemporary issues of the early 20th century. The Industrial Revolution had transformed the world. Mass production had made cars, telephones and radios relatively cheap and widely available throughout the developed world. The Russian Revolution of 1917 and the First World War (1914–1918) were resonating throughout the world. Many characters in the story are named after influential people of the time, for example, Benito Hoover and Bernard Marx.

Huxley was able to use the setting and characters from his science fiction novel to express widely held opinions, particularly the fear of losing individual identity in the fast-paced world of the future. An early trip to the United States gave Brave New World much of its character. Not only was Huxley outraged by the culture of youth, commercial cheeriness, sexual promiscuity and the inward-looking nature of many Americans;[4] he had also found a book by Henry Ford on the boat to America. There was a fear of Americanization in Europe, so to see America firsthand, as well as read the ideas and plans of one of its foremost citizens, spurred Huxley to write Brave New World with America in mind. The "feelies" are his response to the "talkie" motion pictures, and the sex-hormone chewing gum is parody of the ubiquitous chewing gum, which was something of a symbol of America at that time. In an article in the 4 May 1935 issue of the Illustrated London News, G. K. Chesterton explained that Huxley was revolting against the 'Age of Utopias'—a time, mostly before the First World War, inspired by what H. G. Wells and George Bernard Shaw were writing about socialism and a World State.

[hrai]

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I've read Animal Farm, 1984 and Brave New World.... Communism fell for the same reasons Capitalism hiccups... greed and corruption. Might I add that with the advancement of technology and the possibility that you might be tracked via satellite and be taxed according to mileage traveled along with many other possible methods of privacy intrusion, the world isn't too far off from total robotic control. Big brother doesn't have to watch, machines will do the work for him.


Brave New World:
Although the novel is set in the future, it contains contemporary issues of the early 20th century. The Industrial Revolution had transformed the world. Mass production had made cars, telephones and radios relatively cheap and widely available throughout the developed world. The Russian Revolution of 1917 and the First World War (1914–1918) were resonating throughout the world. Many characters in the story are named after influential people of the time, for example, Benito Hoover and Bernard Marx.

Huxley was able to use the setting and characters from his science fiction novel to express widely held opinions, particularly the fear of losing individual identity in the fast-paced world of the future. An early trip to the United States gave Brave New World much of its character. Not only was Huxley outraged by the culture of youth, commercial cheeriness, sexual promiscuity and the inward-looking nature of many Americans;[4] he had also found a book by Henry Ford on the boat to America. There was a fear of Americanization in Europe, so to see America firsthand, as well as read the ideas and plans of one of its foremost citizens, spurred Huxley to write Brave New World with America in mind. The "feelies" are his response to the "talkie" motion pictures, and the sex-hormone chewing gum is parody of the ubiquitous chewing gum, which was something of a symbol of America at that time. In an article in the 4 May 1935 issue of the Illustrated London News, G. K. Chesterton explained that Huxley was revolting against the 'Age of Utopias'—a time, mostly before the First World War, inspired by what H. G. Wells and George Bernard Shaw were writing about socialism and a World State.

Great points, another novel with a similar theme is H G Wells' "Time Machine".

Basically, they make my point, Kanada, that, regardless of which system is operated, greed & corruption will erode the original principles, no matter how laudable.

[hipeter924]

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hipeter, I take it that these versions you mention are just theoretical?
Various economic/political/social theories are excellent until people are put into the equation.
The bulk of these ideas on social reconstruction should stay, where they are now, on college campuses and surrounding coffee shops.

What part about medieval economics do you not understand? A capitalist system with small business as opposed to corporations existed for thousands of years quite well.

Removing the government and corporations from the equation wouldn't cause society to collapse because moral groups would still exist along with the infrastructure and money.

People just freak out when anything with anarchy is mentioned....when anarcho-capitalism means rule through capitalism as opposed to rule through government.

Anyways it hasn't been tried yet but what I do know is the current capitalist, socialist, communist and democratic socialist systems have failed miserably much due to fact few care about the system that runs their world and most only care about how they can personally manipulate its flaws.

[KanadaHye]

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What part about medieval economics do you not understand? A capitalist system with small business as opposed to corporations existed for thousands of years quite well.

Removing the government and corporations from the equation wouldn't cause society to collapse because moral groups would still exist along with the infrastructure and money.

People just freak out when anything with anarchy is mentioned....when anarcho-capitalism means rule through capitalism as opposed to rule through government.

Anyways it hasn't been tried yet but what I do know is the current capitalist, socialist, communist and democratic socialist systems have failed miserably much due to fact few care about the system that runs their world and most only care about how they can personally manipulate its flaws.

Few even realize they are living in a structured system of hierarchy. American's were told to hate "commies" yet the majority of the population didn't even know what "commie" meant. How many people truly understand the underlying principles of Capitalism?