150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

[Eddo211]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

The article I posted says it was built in 1987 (22 yrs ago), the one Fed posted says it was 15 years old. So what is regarded as too old in terms of aviation?

There is an Aircraft primary structures service life, specifically for pressurized passenger aircraft (cycles of pressurization…..each cycle is one take off and one landing) that work stresses the aluminum, not to mention intergranular corrosion buiding over time that may not be visible with naked eye. Some aircraft get retired to other fields of aviation or get retrofitted to extend their service life. Also more vigorous inspection procedures are implemented.
Sometimes the cost of this out weighs the profit margins of airline co. Here in US we are strictly regulated by FAA and internationally by ICAO standards. This does not exist in certain countries that are not regulated as such.

Regardless, again ………….no one should be jumping to conclusion as far as the cause of this tragic crash for there are too many variables and not enough info when it comes to maintenance records and actions, compliance with time change items, airworthiness directives, pilot currency and their actions in this flight, flight data recorder, conversation with tower, weather conditions, sabotage……it goes on and on.

[KanadaHye]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

First I agree that we should not be jumping to conclusions as far as the cause of the crash…….being in Aviation myself I know that very well. As far as safety records this Aircraft does not have a good history but I take your word for it. I do like its ability to take off and land out of short rough runways.

BTW, ICAO is international standards………………..Aircraft operating and certified under FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) have the best safety record by far per flight hours.

The article I posted says it was built in 1987 (22 yrs ago), the one Fed posted says it was 15 years old. So what is regarded as too old in terms of aviation?

[Eddo211]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

Also remember the air flight incident when the U.S. shot down the civilian airliner "Iran Air Flight 655" in 1988. This may very well been an accident, poor maintenance, etc. One can never be too sure whether or not there is tampering involved.

Very tragic. My heart goes out to all surviving family and friends of those onboard for their loss.



Assuming this is a Tupolev Tu-154, which is a more common model, then it beats the American and European counterparts in terms of safety records:

"After the Tu-154 had been in service for 26 years (1998) and logged 21 million flight hours, it had a better than average safety record (1.7 times fewer incidents than the world average [ICAO stats])."

Unfortunately, they are dinosaurs.

First I agree that we should not be jumping to conclusions as far as the cause of the crash…….being in Aviation myself I know that very well. As far as safety records this Aircraft does not have a good history but I take your word for it. I do like its ability to take off and land out of short rough runways.

BTW, ICAO is international standards………………..Aircraft operating and certified under FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) have the best safety record by far per flight hours.

[Federate]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

Air Disaster: Plane never contacted Armenia authorities

Deputy Chief of the Head Department of Civil Aviation Arsen Poghosyan says that the Tupolev 154 Caspian Airlines that crashed in northern Iran Wednesday afternoon did not contact Armenia’s navigation services.

“When it took off at 12.02, they gave preliminary information that it was to enter Armenian territory at 12.52. However, already at 12.48 their controllers contacted our controllers and told them to cancel the moment of entering Armenia airspace, because the plane could not be seen on the screens.”

The plane went down in a location near the town of Qazvin, some 180 kilometers from Tehran killing 153 passengers on board, including two children, and 15 crew members.

According to Poghosyan, according to preliminary lists of passengers, 35 of them are Armenians, and four are citizens of Armenia – Ashot Nersisyan, Artur Grigoryan, Karine Margaryan and Ara Siroyan.

Two of the plane’s crew, Grigor Barseghyan and Suren Soghomonyan are also Armenians. Two of the passengers, Chkadua Givi and Natela Novikova are citizens of Georgia. The rest are citizens of Iran.

Among them were members of Iran's Junior Judo squad - eight athletes and two coaches – coming to Armenia for training.



Head of Armenia’s flight security inspection Serob Karapetyan said he did not exclude that the crew tried to head for some nearby airport to make an emergency landing but did not manage.

“The plane that crashed was Iranian registered and under Iranian aviation authorities’ control. Tu 154 planes are supplied with necessary equipment required by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). Of course, these planes were produced 15 years ago, but 15 years cannot be considered a long period for aircraft,” said head of Armenia’s flight security inspection.

Caspian Airlines operates up to 13 Tehran-Yerevan flights a week and is the only company to service this direction.

Operative headquarters were deployed at Zvartnots Airport, with medics and psychologists, and ambulance vehicles, on standby to help people who came to see their family members or friends arriving on the ill-fated flight.

President Serzh Sargsyan cut his visit to northern provinces of Armenia short and rushed to Yerevan upon learning the news, his press office reported. Sargsyan declared a day of mourning in Armenia for July 16.

http://armenianow.com/?action=viewArticle&AID=3942&CID=3737&IID=1243&lng=eng

[KanadaHye]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

My heart broke as I woke up to this news. Vay mayr@ taghem, meg had shnorkov autanav chen kider shinel asonk? Yeghadz cheghadz@ 10 million joghovourt enk yev yergou autanav ingadz eh hayerov 3 darva metch.

Also remember the air flight incident when the U.S. shot down the civilian airliner "Iran Air Flight 655" in 1988. This may very well been an accident, poor maintenance, etc. One can never be too sure whether or not there is tampering involved.

Very tragic. My heart goes out to all surviving family and friends of those onboard for their loss.

This problem will not go away and it will happen again with these aging aircraft that have flown beyond their service life...........not to mention they were a peace a crap to begin with. Damn

Assuming this is a Tupolev Tu-154, which is a more common model, then it beats the American and European counterparts in terms of safety records:

"After the Tu-154 had been in service for 26 years (1998) and logged 21 million flight hours, it had a better than average safety record (1.7 times fewer incidents than the world average [ICAO stats])."

Unfortunately, they are dinosaurs.

[Sako]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

I still don't get how stupid one has to be to allow such planes to even continue to exist . They were old as hell.

[Eddo211]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

My heart broke as I woke up to this news. Vay mayr@ taghem, meg had shnorkov autanav chen kider shinel asonk? Yeghadz cheghadz@ 10 million joghovourt enk yev yergou autanav ingadz eh hayerov 3 darva metch.

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This problem will not go away and it will happen again with these aging aircraft that have flown beyond their service life...........not to mention they were a peace a crap to begin with. Damn

[seruven]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

May all rest in peace. Sorry for your loss, Lucin.

[Eddo211]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

God be with them.
RIP

[Karabed]

Re: 150 passengers on board a flight from Tehran to Yerevan feared dead

Names of those died, i am posting this for information if it is inappropriate delete it please:

1 - Abdullah Hamid Reza Zadeh
2 - Ahmadi peaceful Nvrh
3 - آنت wrinkle
4 - Ghasem Akbari
5 - Maryam Alaei
6 - Q. Alavi Shyrkhv
7 - Ahmed Ali Mohammadi
8 - Ali Mohammadi Arash
9 - Ali Akbar Ali Mohammadi
10 - Ali Mohammadi, Kaveh
11 - Manizheh Alirezaei
12 - Mojdeh Alirezaei
13 - Amini Anahita Jafari
14 - Ali Amiri
15 - Nana Ntashyan
16 - Edwin Sadvryan
17 - Rshavyr Avakian
18 - Free Avanesiyan
19 - Msyb Zyzalhy
20 - Enos Babvmyan
21 - Y. Bagher Pour
22 - Ali Bahrami
23 - According to H.
24 - M. Brfrvshan
25 - Q. Beheshti race
26 - Anna Bvghvsyan
27 - Roya Bhlvly
28 - Leon Davydyan
29 - This Vhydrza Dehghani
30 - Martyk Dravansyan
31 - Vahid Ebrahimi deuce
32 - Darius resuscitation
33 - Nayyry Estepanian
34 - Shvghr Estepanian
35 - Jamshid Flamrzpvr
36 - M. Fallahzadeh
37 - Rashid Faraj Zade
38 - Mohsen spiritual virtues
39 - aperient Garanyan
40 - Ms. F.. Hamid Black
41 - Ali judge
42 - Neda Gholamhossein
43 - Hassan Qlvby
44 - Hasmak Qlvyan Haft
45 - Karabd Bvkasyan
46 - Chkadva Syvy
47 - Nik Name Abbas
48 - Gnutella Nykvnva
49 - Mohsen Nvrvzpvr
50 - Nasser Nosrati
51 - Ibrahim Pydarsy
52 - Castle Poolad Hmaspvr
53 - Ali Reza Ghorbani Poor
54 - Mrs. M.. Pour Moqaddam
55 - Mr. and. Mansour Rafiee
56 - M. Reihani
57 - Mostafa Sabagh
58 - Shhnam Sabouri
59 - David Salaryan
60 - Arian Salehi
61 - Saeed Salehi
62 - F. Samarkand
63 - S. Samarkand
64 - Mohammad Hossein Snayy
65 - Armen Sarksyan
66 - Vavh Sarksyan
67 - Armen Srkysyan
68 - Mr. Q. Seyed Ali Pur
69 - Masoumeh Shadkhv
70 - Yvryk Shahbazian
71 - Ms. Shahmradyan
72 - Khachatvr Symvnyan
73 - Khachyky
74 - Ara Syrvyan
75 - Amin Soleimani Far
76 - Muhammad Ali
77 - Zrmynh Svktazyan
78 - Vartanvsh Thmasyan
79 - Lvsyk Tarmynyan
80 - Ramon Tarvyan
81 - Christian Trvvansy ?
82 - Anahita Trvvansy ?
83 - Nasser T.
84 - Tadh Tymash
85 - Siyavash patriotic
86 - Yqvbyan
87 - ر. Yqvbyan
89 - A. Yamini
90 - Reza Yousefi
91 - Ala Zare
92 - Amir Zare
93 - Trlan Zare
94 - Mr. M.. Mahmoud Zarif
95 - Mr. A.. Zbrdst
96 - believe Zyny وند
97 - Arthur Gregorian
98 - Mohammad Hadadi
99 - Arian Hadykhan
100 - M.. ر Hadykhan
101 - GholamReza Haghparast
102 - Asadollah Haghparast
103 - Hassan Hassanzadeh
104 - Plvryk Hayrvptv
105 - Seyed Mehdi Hosseini
106 - Joe Mohammad Izadi
107 - J. Jafari
108 - jacob Jafari
109 - Majid Jalali
110 - Vahid Jvanbkhsh
111 - H. Jvanbkhsh
112 - Seyed Mohammad Jazayeri
113 - Shayan S. Jazayeri
114 - Roham Seyed Jazayeri
115 - Hamid Reza Kakavndy
116 - Talyan Karatypan
117 - Nadia Karimi
118 - Niloofar Karimi
119 - Nima Karimi
120 - Hossein Karimi
121 - Q. Kashani Qareh
122 - Ahmad Kermani
123 - Amin baker work
124 - Edward Khachyk
125 - Khvanyn Hassan Zadeh
126 - Ali Iron Date
127 - Ahmadreza Khrady
128 - Homa sociable habit
129 - Division A.
130 - Roya Lotfi person
131 - Mr. A. Mahmood Zadeh
132 - Nayry Maylyan
133 - Rshavyr Manasryan
134 - Karin Margaryan
135 - Masis Matyan Kvnara
136 - Annie Mlkvmakar
137 - Aryan Mlkvmakar
138 - Meghdad teacher
139 - Ali Mohaddes
140 - Sir H.. Mohammadi
141 - Gholam Reza Mohammadi
142 - Fatima Mohammad Safa
143 - Babak Mokhtari
144 - Mr. T. Moradian Haji
145 - Mr. M.. Mozafari
146 - Nazila نعيم
147 - Sadeq Najafi Lahiji
148 - Lvard Navasartyan
149 - Ali Nazari patience
150 - Shvt Nrsysyan
151 - H. Nyaqy
152 - Seyed Farhad Nyavrany
153 - Saeed Rasooli

I used a translator some names are written wrong.
If someone want it in Farsi let me know.