IDF kills Palestinians for their organs

[Anoush]

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ArmSurvival jan; I have a similar story from my maternal grandmother who survived by a miracle the Armenian massacres by the orders of Attaturk in Smyrna in 1922. My maternal grandmother and cousins of hers and other Armenians were hiding in a house as turkish soldiers were looking for Armenians everywhere to locate and annihilate them; and some Jewish people there were yelling to the turkish soldiers that "there are Armenians in this house go and get them". We have been told recently that all the Salonika Jews in turkey were Doenme Zionist Jews. 130,000 Armenians were massacred in 1922 in and around Smyrna, turkey, then right after that they attacked and killed the Greek populace.

[ArmSurvival]

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I think that they don't wish to see Armenia's map on the globe. Because they know that now we know who really was the mastermind behind the turks in 1915.

You're right Anoush, they are catching on. Thankfully more and more Armenians are starting to realize that Zionists are not only enemies of Palestinians, but enemies of the Armenian people. This is just the first necessary step.

They must, why else would they go to that extreme to do everything and anything possible to suppress Armenia and Nagorno-Karapakh to the extent of making us Armenians extinct?

Ya, they sell technology to Turkey and Azerbaijan... and also, many "Professors of Armenian studies" at major universities worldwide, are Zionists who teach Armenians that we don't have a real national identity or a real homeland. There are actually Armenians who believe them because they don't know any better, and they think just because J ews have a big diaspora and have experienced genocide, that they are somehow our friends.

Actually my problem with Zionists stems from their inhuman treatment of Palestinians, as well as their activities in the US, and more recently I found out about their role in the genocide, but I also have a personal reason to loathe them-- My maternal grandfather was arrested by them during the mess in 1948, thinking he is an Arab. He kept telling the Zionists that he is an Armenian, so they beat him up numerous times and told him, "You are worse than an Arab"**. All in all he stayed in jail for one week, and the diet they provided him was bread and raw onion. He recieved this treatment even though he was completely innocent, so imagine what they do to Palestinians, much less the families of "suspected insurgents". Thats why this organ story didn't surprise me, I'm sure they also use captured Palestinians as guinea pigs in military experiments.

** A shining example of what your average Zionist thinks about Armenians.

[Anoush]

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Don't worry Pedro, the J ews involved in the genocide were at the highest level in the Turkish government, and chosen by the Turkish people to lead them. The Young Turks and later Ataturk's regime, even though both are J ews, are legally recognized leaders of Turks, therefore the Turkish nation is binded by the consequences of their actions (and so are Zionists, in my opinion). Even Pan-Turkism, the ideology to which the J ewish leaders of Turkey adhere to, was created by a Hungarian J ew. It would take a complete absence of human intuition to believe that all of this is mere coincidence.

In the case of Armenians, our greatest misfortunes have been masterminded by J ews (more specifically Zionist J ews), while Turks, who are easier to manipulate, are used by them as cannon-fodder. This does not absolve either party of guilt.

Actually, what Zionist J ews have done and continue to do to Armenians goes above and beyond their current alliance with Turkey. Judging by their actions, it seems they have an inherent hate towards us, the same inherent hate they claim gentiles have towads J ews. Its interesting how these Zionists project their own hate and their own insecurities onto others. Typical criminal behavior.

How well and thruthfully you summarized it ArmSurvival. And as you have mentioned it above, those Zionist Jews still hate us even after they killed our Armenian race pretty much and completely. Till today, why else they would control in the US the congress to be pro-turks and totally against the Genocide recognition, to have Obama suppress Armenia's president to control what they should and shouldn't do in the name of the turkish government and for Armenia to do everything that turkey dictates. And as if that's not enough they are giving the worst and the newest arms to the "azeris" and teaching them every inch of the way how to fight against Armenia and Nagorno-Karapakh. In my opinion the Zionist Jews hate us more than turks. They must, why else would they go to that extreme to do everything and anything possible to suppress Armenia and Nagorno-Karapakh to the extent of making us Armenians extinct?

I think that they don't wish to see Armenia's map on the globe. Because they know that now we know who really was the mastermind behind the turks in 1915. They also know that we are resilient and smart bunch of people and they sure do not wish another strong and powerful country like Israel in the region. They would like to see turkey to get more powerful but no, not Armenia. They know that once we get stronger, we will get real strong because we are smart. From the beginning they controlled Armenia through Levon Ter Petrossian who was married to their sister J'ewish Zionist woman to have control over Levon and through him to Armenia. And they did succeed as Levon and his J'ewish Zionist wife left Armenia in such a poor state that 1 Million Armenians left Armenia and went abroad. Thus to the demease of Armenia.

[Anoush]

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OK, now I understand why J_ews are not liked in this forum. The word J_ew cannot even be written. Israel supports Turkey and J-ews in USA do not support the recognition of Armenian genocide since that would be bad for Israel.

I do not like Azerbaijanis and Turks either. Actually I hate Turks. I like Iranians since we Zazas are of Iranian descent just like Persians, Kurds, Talysh, Balochs... I do not like countries that allied with Turkey example: Georgia, Azerbaijan and Kosovo. The problem with Iran is not the people that live there! No way. It is the dictator Ahmadinejad and that Azeri Ayatollah Khamenei. That kind of people terrorize their own people since 1979. A lot of people are fed up with this Islamic Republic. A lot of Iranians leave Iran and beginn a new life in Europe, Australia and North America. A country where democracy, free elections, human rights, equality between men and women, freedom of religious choice, rights for homosexuals... do not exist cannot be a good country. You cannot walk free with your girlfriend since that is forbidden and you can not watch foreign TV with a satellite dish since it may be pornographic and against Islamic republic. Religious TV channels that Christians, Bahaii and Zoroastrians have are forbidden in Iran. It is good for Armenians since they are not terrorized and murdered like in Turkey but it is not good for Iranian people! How can you support a government that Iranians do not even like??? To be neutral is ok but to be for Islamists is totally different. People are losing their lives in Iran and you support their killer government? Believe me if Iranians would read your comments they would think twice whether Armenians are really their friends. One day Islamic Republic will collapse just like other dictatorial regimes. If peole are not supporting their govenment it is just a matter of time to collapse. Mossadegh was not supported by USA so they put Reza Shah but people kicked him out since he was a dictator just like the Islamists in Iran. One day this will happen to Mullahs too when they continue like that.

It is that simple: Israel suppports Turkey which is their only friend in the Middle East and Armenia supports Islamic Republic of Iran because it is their only friend in that area. Israel is surrounded by Arabs that are eager to eliminate them and Armenia is surrounded by barbaric Turks and weird Georgians.

Jam, Iranian nation and people and Armenians and Armenia they go way back through history. We were foes in the very old days; but we have been friends for more than a thousand years now. The Armenian Revolutionary Federation with their troops and Fedayis helped the late Shah's father and assisted him for the right of his throne. We are and have been good friendly neighbours for more than a thousand years now with Iran and the Iraqis. I was not crazy about Ayatollah Khoumeni at first, but him as well as Ahmadinejad are still very much friends with the Armenians and Armenia. I have numerous Iranian good friends, a teacher and acquaintances that I value, however the Iranian government until today are the only sole friends and good neighbours of Armenia. So what do you want me to tell you when we are surrounded by the denialist unfriendly turks that want to see us wiped out of the map on one side, and the "azeri" barbaric pogrom people and government on the other side who also wish to see us wiped out of the map as well as you put it, the weird unfriendly Georgians on the other side of Armenia. Who is left that are truly our friendly good neighbours? Iran, "Barsgasdan" in Armenian - thank goodness. They are the only ones that our landlocked country can breath air, negotiate with and communicate in an honest manner. I wish things can get better for you people; but we Armenians have been suppressed for more than a thousand years, and if it wasn't for the Doenme Zionist Jew Talaat Pasha and his killer crew who had the turks and the kurds kill us as a nation, I would have been in today's Eastern turkey which was Armenian lands and I would have been sitting beautifully and pretty on my grandfather's land that belonged to my forefathers and anscestors for more than 6 thousand years.

[ArmSurvival]

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I'm just worried that this will be the next tactic (it was the xxxs not us) Turks on the forum who deny the Genocide would try to use to absolve themselves of guilt, it wasn't meant at all against you.

Don't worry Pedro, the J ews involved in the genocide were at the highest level in the Turkish government, and chosen by the Turkish people to lead them. The Young Turks and later Ataturk's regime, even though both are J ews, are legally recognized leaders of Turks, therefore the Turkish nation is binded by the consequences of their actions (and so are Zionists, in my opinion). Even Pan-Turkism, the ideology to which the J ewish leaders of Turkey adhere to, was created by a Hungarian J ew. It would take a complete absence of human intuition to believe that all of this is mere coincidence.

In the case of Armenians, our greatest misfortunes have been masterminded by J ews (more specifically Zionist J ews), while Turks, who are easier to manipulate, are used by them as cannon-fodder. This does not absolve either party of guilt.

Actually, what Zionist J ews have done and continue to do to Armenians goes above and beyond their current alliance with Turkey. Judging by their actions, it seems they have an inherent hate towards us, the same inherent hate they claim gentiles have towads J ews. Its interesting how these Zionists project their own hate and their own insecurities onto others. Typical criminal behavior.

I think there is another important point that should be taken into consideration by all of us while discussing on this issue; who is (or rather was) a Hebrew? And who is a xxx or xxxish? There seems to exist almost no correlation between the two in 'modern' History. xxxs today are more a religious entity whose ancestors are anyone but the ancient Hebrews once living in Israel. I think this can also discard their baseless claims to any piece of land in Palestine.

Even if we assume they have a 'right' to that land, why displace, kill, trade body parts, deprive them of basic human needs (such as water, electricity, etc.) and torture them on a daily basis? No animal would survive under such conditions.

Good points, Lucin.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

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I am not insulted. I know that our bloods are on the turkish hands, there’s no doubt about that, in 1915 they used the turks of turkey to do the job, I’m afraid this time they are using the turks of azerbaijan or maybe Georgians to do the job. I don’t want to be “the history repeats itself”

Definitely, so far the craziest of the Pan Turkists I have ever came across have been "Azeris", the Georgians as well have had me worried but I think they are too scared of Russia to do much

[Yedtarts]

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I am not insulted. I know that our bloods are on the turkish hands, there’s no doubt about that, in 1915 they used the turks of turkey to do the job, I’m afraid this time they are using the turks of azerbaijan or maybe Georgians to do the job. I don’t want to be “the history repeats itself”

[Pedro Xaramillo]

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Read well what I said, and don't twist my words.

If you look at my post I am not disagreeing with you, nor am I trying to attempt to twist your words, I wasn't insulting you nor trying to be insulting.

I'm just worried that this will be the next tactic (it was the xxxs not us) Turks on the forum who deny the Genocide would try to use to absolve themselves of guilt, it wasn't meant at all against you.

In which case btw, if we are going to point something, neither Semites or Indo Europeans are Caucasian, Caucasians are Georgians, Chechen, Cherkess, etc.

Racially if we assume the definitions commonly used today to be correct, Semites, Caucasians and Indo Iranians are Caucasoid.

[Yedtarts]

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Hold on though, I know there were some xxxs involved, but this is a little far, most of the people who killed Armenians were Turks, lets not absolve them from their blame, the ideology was Pan Turkism, the aim was Turan, it was a Turkic movement as their cousins have tried to commit in the late 80s in Azerbaijan, to my knowledge Aliyev is pure Tatar

Read well what I said, and don't twist my words.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

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Let us not forget the most important one. Who were the architects, the planers, the financers and the perpetrators of the Armenian Genocide?

Hold on though, I know there were some xxxs involved, but this is a little far, most of the people who killed Armenians were Turks, lets not absolve them from their blame, the ideology was Pan Turkism, the aim was Turan, it was a Turkic movement as their cousins have tried to commit in the late 80s in Azerbaijan, to my knowledge Aliyev is pure Tatar