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Well it's naive champagne Socialist European establiments, who are to blame for Europe's open door immigration policy.
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I agree that it's a problem and even that sectarian strife is not unlikely futher down the line. However you really have no sense of proportionality.Originally posted by Federate View PostMuslim birth rates are far higher than other birth rates (including that of the Jews, which is already pretty high) so it is only a matter of decades until Muslims become the dominant force in Europe. Could you imagine what would happen once Turkey enters the EU?
If Europe has a problem with Muslims outnumbering them, it has no one to blame but itself. They're the ones accepting them into their countries and not being tougher with illegals.
Europe's Muslims problem is no worse in scale than Russia's. As not ever foreigner in Europe is a Muslim. Their are around 50 million Muslims in Europe (mostly in France the UK and Germany) and maybe another 50 million foreigners, out of a total population of 500 million.
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No one thought it would really happen that a Christian nation would
end one day. The Greek Byzantine (I do not like to use that word,
but then everyone knows what I am referring to) armies were always
fighting and keeping at bay the Turkish Ottoman forces. It was battle
after battle, century after century. A non stop soap opera of war.
Yes, the Armenians too were doing this.
But no one thought it would actually happen.
Then one day the golden city fell to the invaders.
That was the beginning of the genocide. The real foundation that
set up for the events of 1868-1923.
Communities were not recognizing the real story there.
During the 1909-1923 the European ships were nearby and the Admirals
didn't like each other and many were out to help the tobacco busnessmen
as well as the turkish soldiers and leaders--they gave special orders
for only the businessmen and their tobacco to be allowed to go from
their places to the ships. The turkish helped them.
Then the ships had to be loaded to get the product out on time
so it did not spoil. That they felt was more important that allowing
Armenians to get on board to safety.
Yes, at the end, there were alot of Captains and Admirals that were
convinced to allow the refugees to go on board, and this was good,
yes, but this happened after alot of good people like teachers of
local schools, foreign schools, that had Armenian girls and boys as
students, these teachers really fought to save these children,
by doing what they had to to convince the ships top officers to allow
them on board.
It was due to the conviction and decency of these men and women and
many Armenian students were saved.
attaturk was playing one country off on another. He knew they wanted
the rights to the oil fields. So he was a great manipulator.
The European allies encouraged Greek army to invade to fight the
turks and when they almost made it to the golden city, the powers
that be in that group, ruined it for them.
That was the one great opportunity for there to be a Christian nation
again with an Armenian empire and a Greek one.
That the Greek government, with the war bonds, and all the difficult
situation, allowed Armenians to immigrate over with the Greek
population was wonderful.
You are right: the Europeans and other nations do not see the real
problems now that they allowed the muslims into their lands --
also for cheap labor or whatever reasons.
It does look very bad. And Yerevan should never have allowed a
Mosque.
Armenia for Armenians and for like minded Christians of the Apostolic
tradition.
Now if they have one, they will carry one wanting another mosque and
still another. They are doing this in Britian, France, United States.
This is their game: ask for one and never be satisfied. It is a
strategy of their own.
Besides, they are not Christians of the original faith-Apostolic--then
how can they live there? they will not understand the customs and
how it is to be there. I can only think they have another agenda.
Armenia for Armenians!
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That picture is Omar Mukhtar, a Libyan national hero who was executed by Italians for trying to organise a resistance movement against Italian colonialism in Libya. It was like Gaddafi claiming that even though we're friends now, we won't forget your colonial past in our country.Originally posted by retro View Post
Notice that the clown has got a picture pinned to his uniform?
This guy truly amazes me. I mean just how long has he been in power in Libya for now?
Gaddafi is more of a pan-Arab leader than any of those other Arab clowns will ever be. But anyway, coming back to his quote, he's totally right. Muslim birth rates are far higher than other birth rates (including that of the Jews, which is already pretty high) so it is only a matter of decades until Muslims become the dominant force in Europe. Could you imagine what would happen once Turkey enters the EU?Originally posted by arakeretzig View PostHe's the butt of jokes in the arab world, he always comes off as some kind of big boy with attitude. In reality, he's mostly exhausted his time, and his buddy barlesconi is trying to milk him while he's alive, with oil contracts and bussiness deals.
As for Black immigration, no money in the whole world can stop it.
If Europe has a problem with Muslims outnumbering them, it has no one to blame but itself. They're the ones accepting them into their countries and not being tougher with illegals. And when a leader of a nation-state tries to do something about immigration, they are vilified. Just look at the recent controversy in France. Sarkozy deported 1000 illegal Gypsies back to where they came from and almost every EU member condemned him and some even broke Godwin's law and compared this to Nazism
. And Gypsies aren't even as numerous as Muslims. The "damage" has already been done (if you are against a Muslim presence in EU) and it looks irreversible.
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Unfortunately capitalism only exists as (fascism, crony-capitalism, corporatism..). It also prevents any other type of government from succeeding because of its competative nature. Should another country with another system do anything better, well then we will bomb it. Capitalism values capital-not people- thus it cannot in any form be good for people.Originally posted by Anonymouse View PostUnlike communism, capitalism allowed a chance for common people to rise in ranks and gave them an opportunity to become owners based on their toil and merit.
Sorry sir, it remains to be the best system which has spurred man's ingenuity and industriousness the most advancing the industrial and technological revolutions and raising standard of living by leaps and bounds.
I wouldn't confuse fascism, crony-capitalism, corporatism, with "capitalism" understood in its strictest sense.
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Africa is a catastrophe and a ticking bomb. I don't understand how these people think. Do they think they're doing good by having so many children?Originally posted by retro View Post
As for Africa, you only have to look at the demographics of countries like Ethiopia. Which had a massive famine back in the 80's and now has a population of over 90 million people. To realise that things are going to end very badly for that crowd. Since in African women are forced by their men into having children, that they neither want or can support.
Anyway, I think Armenia has enough problems than to bring in blacks or immigrants or whatever, it will only create more problems. Who says Armenia can support a large population anyway? can Armenia sustain more than 10 million people? I don't see it.
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Berlusconi like Gaddafi is as I'm sure you know something of a ladies man and the Latins seem to think that he's some kind of national hero.Originally posted by arakeretzig View PostHe's the butt of jokes in the arab world, he always comes off as some kind of big boy with attitude. In reality, he's mostly exhausted his time, and his buddy barlesconi is trying to milk him while he's alive, with oil contracts and bussiness deals. As for Black immigration, no money in the whole world can stop it.
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The Libyan economy is highly dependent upon the country oil revenues. Which accounts for 95% of it's export earnings or about one-quarter of GDP. Libya also imports about 75% of its food and is increasingly reliant upon the desalinization of fresh water, presumably due to desertification.
The Arabian gulf states source much of their food from places like Sudan and naval forces aren't amassed off the horn of Africa merely to combat piracy in Somalia, but rather to protect the flow of trade.
The Russia's and Ukraine's recent drought related crop failure follows, on Australia's only a few years ago and global food secuity is now under strain. Armenia needs to lobby the EU for agricultural development grants and plant far more wheat with view to becoming a net exporter of cereals. The larger EU agricultural firms are very efficient producers and I suppose Armenia could offer some of these foreign firms cheap leases and tax breaks in order to attract investment in the sector.
As for Africa, you only have to look at the demographics of countries like Ethiopia. Which had a massive famine back in the 80's and now has a population of over 90 million people. To realise that things are going to end very badly for that crowd. Since in African women are forced by their men into having children, that they neither want or can support.Armenia has 2.1 million hectares of agricultural land, 72% of the country's land area. Most of this, however, are mountain pastures, and cultivable land is 480,000 hectares (452,900 hectares arable land, 27,300 hectares in orchards and vineyards), or 16% of the country's area. In 2006, 46% of the work force was employed in agriculture (up from 26% in 1991), and agriculture contributed 21% of the country's GDP. In 1991 Armenia imported about 65 percent of its food.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Armenia
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Muslims don't like it when you draw Mohammed, mmkay?
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