Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

[Catharsis]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

You are generalizing because you are naive and uninformed. What about new Julfa, Iraq, Syria?

Do you know the percentage of Armenians that made it alive to build New Julfa? Do you know the level (and centuries) of devastation the forced migration had on Armenia?

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

Why should Armenians defend Muslims? After their treatment of us throughout history, their support of Azerbaijan during Karabakh war? All they have is brought to us is war and oppression, it is their Muslim religion that also majorly contributed to the Genocide.. So I really could care less if they can or can't build minarets for themselves and we Armenians should not care or defend them.

You are generalizing because you are naive and uninformed. What about new Julfa, Iraq, Syria?

[Mos]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

Why should Armenians defend Muslims? After their treatment of us throughout history, their support of Azerbaijan during Karabakh war? All they have is brought to us is war and oppression, it is their Muslim religion that also majorly contributed to the Genocide.. So I really could care less if they can or can't build minarets for themselves and we Armenians should not care or defend them.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

KanadaHye, do you always have to go off of the deep end? Yes the Masons build the pyramids, US blew up its own word trade centers, and a new word order is coming. Can we stick to what effects us directly please, I left my thin foil hat at home.

Eddo... a New World Order is nothing new, all it means is a shift in the order of power. The wealthy people buying up property everywhere (and I mean everywhere) will simply make the rules whether they are Chinese, Muslim, or green with yellow polka dots. It's not that difficult of a concept to understand. If a wealthy Turk wants to plant mosques all over the world, who's to stop it if he/she is willing to pay for it?

[Armanen]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

I agree with Eddo. Immigrants should adopt to the host country not the other way round. The Swiss are not asking the muslims to become Swiss, but they also don't want islamic culture to be projected to them, literally in this case.

[Eddo211]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

Unless of course, you are a celebrity or politician.

The problem with laws are that they are not applied in a vacuum and the equalness of their application relies on political forces (i.e. the person applying it and the person upon whom it is applied relative to controlling beliefs, ideology, public opinion and sympathies)

You are talking about bending the laws or the politicians using some laws to their advantage while ignoring others including peoples interests. That is true, no system is perfect and there is no such thing as a true democracy but until someone comes up with the better system I am sticking to it.

KanadaHye, do you always have to go off of the deep end? Yes the Masons build the pyramids, US blew up its own word trade centers, and a new word order is coming. Can we stick to what effects us directly please, I left my thin foil hat at home.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

Everybody has equal rights. As a migrant you are suppose to respect your host countries culture, customs, laws, and ethics. You cannot demand them to change their ways to suit you. In other words you must adjust to your new environment (intergrade, no one is asking them to assimilate) rather than adjust the environment to accommodate you when it is in conflict with the said country.

Unless of course, you are a celebrity or politician.

The problem with laws are that they are not applied in a vacuum and the equalness of their application relies on political forces (i.e. the person applying it and the person upon whom it is applied relative to controlling beliefs, ideology, public opinion and sympathies)

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

You do realize that Muslims in Swiss have not lost their religious rights at all……they just can’t change the landscape by erecting anymore speaker towers. Minarets have nothing to do with Islam, in fact it is a sign of dominance, and sharia law is not far behind. Even after Mohammad there was no such things and they would just scream out of roof tops. The hypocrisy of some the Muslim word leaders are astonishing to me. Swiss may not be addressing the real issues and this ban by the people may cause trouble for them but democracy has spoken and majority has decided.

Everybody has equal rights. As a migrant you are suppose to respect your host countries culture, customs, laws, and ethics. You cannot demand them to change their ways to suit you. In other words you must adjust to your new environment (intergrade, no one is asking them to assimilate) rather than adjust the environment to accommodate you when it is in conflict with the said country.

I think you miss the point. The use of a minaret in architecture is purely expressive. Its use on a mosque is an expression of religious belief as is a cross or star of David.

A person's right to express his or her religion is part and parcel of a person's right to exercise it.

First, they make laws preventing you to do something. Then, they pass acts requiring things to be done to you.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

You do realize that Muslims in Swiss have not lost their religious rights at all……they just can’t change the landscape by erecting anymore speaker towers. Minarets have nothing to do with Islam, in fact it is a sign of dominance, and sharia law is not far behind. Even after Mohammad there was no such things and they would just scream out of roof tops. The hypocrisy of some the Muslim word leaders are astonishing to me. Swiss may not be addressing the real issues and this ban by the people may cause trouble for them but democracy has spoken and majority has decided.

Everybody has equal rights. As a migrant you are suppose to respect your host countries culture, customs, laws, and ethics. You cannot demand them to change their ways to suit you. In other words you must adjust to your new environment (intergrade, no one is asking them to assimilate) rather than adjust the environment to accommodate you when it is in conflict with the said country.

If you are more powerful then them, then you don't need to demand for them to change their ways to suit you. You can change the laws according to your taste. These major changes usually occur after the fall of democracies and the rise of kingdoms whether they be lead by royal families or sultans. Democracies have allowed for the wealthy to become wealthier, and therefore giving them more power.

[Eddo211]

Re: Switzerland voted to ban the building of Minarets

You do realize that Muslims in Swiss have not lost their religious rights at all……they just can’t change the landscape by erecting anymore speaker towers. Minarets have nothing to do with Islam, in fact it is a sign of dominance, and sharia law is not far behind. Even after Mohammad there was no such things and they would just scream out of roof tops. The hypocrisy of some the Muslim word leaders are astonishing to me. Swiss may not be addressing the real issues and this ban by the people may cause trouble for them but democracy has spoken and majority has decided.

Everybody has equal rights. As a migrant you are suppose to respect your host countries culture, customs, laws, and ethics. You cannot demand them to change their ways to suit you. In other words you must adjust to your new environment (intergrade, no one is asking them to assimilate) rather than adjust the environment to accommodate you when it is in conflict with the said country.