Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Clash of civilizations in the classrooms

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 1
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous template Next
  • #1

    Clash of civilizations in the classrooms

    The situation in Germany now ....

    - YouTube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDWs1l_N_g4&feature=player_embedded
    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


    - YouTube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOAZWTosK6s&feature=related
    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


    What is you opinion did you had any experience like that in your school?
    Tags: None
  • #2
    Re: Clash of civilizations in the classrooms

    The stronger culture wins... facts of life. It's normal to see immigrants get along with each other since they see themselves as having something in common.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

    Comment

    • #3
      Re: Clash of civilizations in the classrooms

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      The stronger culture wins... facts of life. It's normal to see immigrants get along with each other since they see themselves as having something in common.
      Yes, but when you voluntarily move to another country, and enjoy THEIR education system, better job opportunities, better living conditions, etc, you should have a bit more respect for the host nation. It's one thing to keep your culture alive (don't forget your mother language, history, customs, etc), but it's another thing to go around trying to take over the land you migrated to, pushing your culture (often violently) on to the indigenous people of said host nation. I think we, along with the Greeks, Assyrians, Bulgarians, Serbians, etc already went through this once ourselves with the Turks.

      It's very, very simple. Muslims don't WANT integration, much less assimilation. They want to create a mini Turkey/Lebanon/etc within whatever nation they're living in, where as YOU kowtow to THEM, and make accommodations for THEIR way of life. They want ZERO compromise with their host nations. If this isn't clear to you, you're viewing the world with your hippy liberal blinders.

      Comment

      • #4
        Re: Clash of civilizations in the classrooms

        Originally posted by Crimson Glow View Post
        It's very, very simple. Muslims don't WANT integration, much less assimilation. They want to create a mini Turkey/Lebanon/etc within whatever nation they're living in, where as YOU kowtow to THEM, and make accommodations for THEIR way of life. They want ZERO compromise with their host nations. If this isn't clear to you, you're viewing the world with your hippy liberal blinders.
        Agreed. But I think the western world has a card up its sleeve... It is able to assimilate you over the generations, because you came for your labour, you will be shaped by the education, legal and economic system to adhere to the prinicples of the host country. You will be charmed by odar things eventually. Allowing you to bring a knife into the classroom because you're a Sikh is just a little trinket, in exchange to being used by the machinery of the western world.

        If a non-muslim wants to preserve their culture in the face of muslims, it is not through defending the same socio-political norms that have assimilated us into this machinery. If you want to be Armenian in the face of Islam, or French in the face of Islam, or whatever in the face of Islam, it is through having passion for your own culture and expressing it with confidence, rocking the boat with it as the Muslims do. Complaining that we are already western by default, and they are the infidels overrunning the system is stupid, it is not "western-ness" that we should be defending, it is our own entity. Especially where "western-ness" threatens it, even for the European.
        Last edited by jgk3; 08-14-2010, 08:48 PM.

        Comment

        • #5
          Re: Clash of civilizations in the classrooms

          Originally posted by Crimson Glow View Post
          Yes, but when you voluntarily move to another country, and enjoy THEIR education system, better job opportunities, better living conditions, etc, you should have a bit more respect for the host nation. It's one thing to keep your culture alive (don't forget your mother language, history, customs, etc), but it's another thing to go around trying to take over the land you migrated to, pushing your culture (often violently) on to the indigenous people of said host nation. I think we, along with the Greeks, Assyrians, Bulgarians, Serbians, etc already went through this once ourselves with the Turks.

          It's very, very simple. Muslims don't WANT integration, much less assimilation. They want to create a mini Turkey/Lebanon/etc within whatever nation they're living in, where as YOU kowtow to THEM, and make accommodations for THEIR way of life. They want ZERO compromise with their host nations. If this isn't clear to you, you're viewing the world with your hippy liberal blinders.
          Did YOU voluntarily move to the country you're in? No, you were brought here as a result of war, it was out of your ancestors' control. Armenian communities were built across the world to accommodate the migration. Ask yourself why this was the case and why you don't think Muslims have the same right.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

          Comment

          Previous template Next
          Working...
          X