Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

[Mos]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Armenians shouldn't feel special.... we are among a long list of people who were victims of Zionist policies. We shouldn't confuse ultra right wingers with the local J3wish family that runs a deli or barber shop.

J3ws Plotted The Armenian Holocaust | Real Zionist News
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=77


Let's also not let our fear of being called "Anti-Semites" abstain us from keeping track of those who are enemies of the Armenian nation.

But all the J3ws are not enemies of Armenians. It's a uncalled for generalisation. Only those right-wing Zionist j3ws that partner with American neo-cons and always supported closer Turkish ties.

[Persopolis]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Armenians shouldn't feel special.... we are among a long list of people who were victims of Zionist policies. We shouldn't confuse ultra right wingers with the local J3wish family that runs a deli or barber shop. J3ws Plotted The Armenian Holocaust | Real Zionist News
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=77 Let's also not let our fear of being called "Anti-Semites" abstain us from keeping track of those who are enemies of the Armenian nation.

Where there is direct or circumstantial evidence that a group or organizations run by a certain group had a hand in Genocide, and someone points that out for purposes of discussion and investigation -- that's fair game; and there shouldn't be an issue. Would any Armenian refrain from exploring the involvement of the Turks in the Armenian Genocide if the Turks invented a new word called "Anti-TURKite"? For the same reason Armenians should not be intimidated from discussing the role of J*wish groups in the Armenian Genocide simply because they may attack you with the label "Anti-Semite" (or 'Anti-TURKite,' etc.). The objection isn't to the practice of their faith (= anti-Semitism), but to the CONDUCT of specific people and organizations regarding a serious crime (Genocide).

[Mukuch]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Where there is direct or circumstantial evidence that a group or organizations run by a certain group had a hand in Genocide, and someone points that out for purposes of discussion and investigation -- that's fair game; and there shouldn't be an issue. Would any Armenian refrain from exploring the involvement of the Turks in the Armenian Genocide if the Turks invented a new word called "Anti-TURKite"? For the same reason Armenians should not be intimidated from discussing the role of J*wish groups in the Armenian Genocide simply because they may attack you with the label "Anti-Semite" (or 'Anti-TURKite,' etc.). The objection isn't to the practice of their faith (= anti-Semitism), but to the CONDUCT of specific people and organizations regarding a serious crime (Genocide).

That is all right... but I wonder is there any serios evidence of envolvment od xxxes organizationes in Armenian Genocide?
So far I havent find any exept of some very doubtfull implicationes by some really antisemite spheres...

[Persopolis]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

That is all right... but I wonder is there any serios evidence of envolvment od xxxes organizationes in Armenian Genocide?
So far I havent find any exept of some very doubtfull implicationes by some really antisemite spheres...

Let's say that's true - Hitler was an anti-Semite, but Hitler also believed that wine can make a person drunk: Was he wrong? The point is that not everything that comes out of an anti-semite's mouth is false: facts should still be investigated. The second point is what proof is there that every single author who has noticed that some J*ws were involved in the Armenian Genocide is an anti-semite? A lot of authors have pointed out the Zionist connection - can they all be anti-semites? Should we stop asking questions as soon as we hear the word "anti-semite"?

I once explained it like this: If my family was subjected to genocide; and if there was even a tiny but reasonable suspicion that the Eskimos did it. I would investigate the Eskimos until the last breath in my body. And if the Eskimos don't like that, and call me "anti-Eskimo," what will I do? ANSWER: Tell the Eskimos to piss-off. J*ws don't get special treatment - all men are created equally when investigating crime - especially a serious crime like Genocide.

[Mukuch]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

A lot of authors have pointed out the Zionist connection - can they all be anti-semites? Should we stop asking questions as soon as we hear the word "anti-semite"?

All right.... who are thos authors? Could you mention some of them and sources wher this implications made?

[Persopolis]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

All right.... who are thos authors? Could you mention some of them and sources wher this implications made?

Here's one: What evidence in his past indicates that he is an anti-Semite?

xxxs, Zionists Behind Armenian Genocide Holocaust - By Jack Manuelian, 4-23-5

The plans of the 1915-23 Armenian Genocide, where a million and half Armenians perished in a barbaric way in their ancestral lands in modern Turkey, actually were drawn up and were in place by the year 1910 or 1912.

There is the book "Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution" written by Mevlan Zadeh Rifat in Turkish and published in 1929, the author, a pro-sultan Turk, claims that the "Armenian genocide was decided in August 1910 and October 1911, by a Young Turk committee composed entirely of displaced Balkan xxxs in the format of a syncretist xxxish-Muslim sect which included Talaat, Enver, Behaeddin Shakir, Jemal, and Nizam posting as Muslims. It met in the Rothschild-funded Grand Orient loge/hotel of Salonika." Syncretism means a combination of different forms of belief or practice; masonism fits that description. As the masons started the 1897 revolution in France with the cry "liberty, fraternity, equality," Young Turks used the same slogan in their revolution of 1908.

A 1994 conference paper/lecture by Joseph Brewda of Schiller Institute entitled "Palmerson launches Young Turks to permanently control Middle East " claims the founder of the Young Turks to be a certain xxx by the name of Emmanuel Carasso. He states: "Carasso set up the Young Turk secret society in the 1890s in Salonika, then part of Turkey, and now part of Greece. Carasso was also the grand master of an Italian masonic lodge there, called 'Macedonia Resurrected.' The lodge was the headquarters of the Young Turks, and all the top Young Turk leadership were members."

Further on Mr. Brewda says: "During the Young Turk regime, Carasso continued to play a leading role. He met with the sultan, to tell him that he was overthrown. He was in charge of putting the sultan under house arrest. He ran the Young Turk intelligence network in the Balkans. And he was in charge of all food supplies in the empire during World War I." It is ironic that four centuries after the Turkish sultans welcomed the expelled European xxxs into Turkey, certain xxxs belonging to secret societies and to Zionism will kick the sultan out of power early in 20th century, destroy the Ottoman Empire, and celebrated their victory by massacring by proxy almost the whole Christian Armenian people, one million and half Armenians; half million Greeks; and half million Christian Assyrians & Arameans.

In 1982, after the Israeli army conquered Lebanon, they celebrated their victory by massacring by proxy children and women in the Palestinian camp of Shattila, in Lebanon, by allowing Lebanese Phalanger militia fighters to move into the camp for two days and murder its inhabitants. Eighty percent of the camp were killed. Nearly all of the dead were old men, women and children and all of them had been unarmed. Not one gun, not one knife was found in their possession, claims a Palestinian witness.

All this according to the percepts of the Talmud, the Satanic Bible of the xxxs, which encourages xxxs to kill, directly or indirectly, by sayings like: "Every xxx who spills the blood of the godless, is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber Raba c21 & Jalkut 772. In the eyes of Talmudists all non-xxxs are godless. And "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Talmud: Coschen Hamischpat, Hagah 425. Very neatly put sentence indeed.

Jesus came and shed his blood for us in order to save humanity and put an end to human and animal sacrifices practiced by Talmudist xxxs who believe that the shedding of the blood of the innocents is a prerequisite of their reptilian gods, specially before embarking on an enterprise. They have orchestrated the massacres and slaughters of millions and millions of humanity so that their demonic gods will be appeased and grand them a new homeland in the near-east. Apparently, the sacrifice of hundreds of millions of humanity during the first half of the twenty century (including the six million xxxs of Nazi Holocaust) have appeased their gods and their wish was granted.

Back to the Young Turks. Mr. Brewda writes: "Another important area was the press. While in power, the Young Turks ran several newspapers, including 'The Young Turk,' whose editor was none other than the Russian Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky. Jabotinsky had been educated as a young man in Italy."

Mr. Brewda, ignoring the possibility that Talaat could have been a secret infiltrated xxx, writes: "Of course, there were also some Turks who helped lead the Young Turk movement. For example, Talaat Pasha. Talaat was the interior minister and dictator of the regime during World war I. He had been a member of Carasso's Italian masonic lodge in Salonika. One year prior to the 1908 coup, Talaat became the grand master of the Scottish Rite Masons in the Ottoman Empire. If you go to the [archives of] Scottish Rite headquarters in Washington, D.C., you can find that most of the Young Turk leaders were officials in the Scottish Rite."

By 1916 the British and French, overpowered by greed, already had a secret agreement to divide the Ottoman Empire between themselves. Presently Hitler's "Mien Kempt " anti-semitic book is a best-seller in Turkey, it is published by various Turkish publishers by thousands and thousands. Are the Turks finally waking up and realizing that their Sultan's refusal to grant Palestine to the Zionist xxxs as a homeland had cost them their centuries-old empire? And are the subjugated Turks about to discover who their real rulers are? There are claims that the blue-eyed founder of modern Turkey, Kemal Ataturk had xxxish origins. And it is known that at least two presidents of modern Turkey (Inonu and Bayar) were xxxish.

In Istanbul, which was the capital and the power center of the Ottoman Empire, there was only few thousands (less than 10,000) xxxs and some 200,000 Armenians and Greeks who controlled the trade, finances and arts of the Empire. xxxs and Christians were in strong competition through hundreds of years of the life of the empire. xxxs were the losers and Christians were the winner always because the Sultans ( there were very few bad sultans who killed Christians) listened to and favored the Christians. For the Zionist xxxs to take over Turkey, its Christians had to be eliminated; and that is another ugly facade of the first Genocide of the 20th Century in Turkey.

Another source is the lengthy article "The Armenian & xxxish Genocide Project: Eliminating Ethnic Conflict Along the Oil Route From Baku to the Suez Canal Region " written by Clifford Shack and posted in his web-site.

Mr. Shack writes: "In the 1880's, the French branch of the Rothschild family acquired interests in Russia's Baku oil fields in an effort to supply their refinery on the Adriatic with cheap Russian oil. In exchange for these interests they built a railroad linking Baku to the newly acquired Black Sea port of Batum. This opened up the Baku oil, a major world supply, to the world. With the success of the new railroad, the Rothschilds had more oil than they could actually sell. Overcoming their fear of competing with the giant Standard oil [of USA], they sought out the huge [Far East] markets east of Suez."

Further on Mr. Shack makes his point: "The decision by the shrewd French Rothschild branch to diversify into other areas of oil exploitation was, presumably, a calculated one. Three years after they joined Royal Dutch, production at Baku would come to an abrupt halt in 1905. Although shaken by political activity, the principal disruption was due to the violence of the ethnic conflict between the region's Muslims and the minority population of Armenians who are Christians. This ethnic conflict caused the first interruption of oil distribution to the world market. Standard oil was quick to supplant the needs of the effected markets as its source was operating under the blanket of peace. The Royal/Dutch/Shell Group (and the Nobles) watched their Baku investments go up in flames. Ethnic conflict was at the root of the matter. It could be safely assumed that they were taking measures to eliminate the possibility of that happening in the future." Oil corporations seem to have learned their lessons from history because before the construction of present-day Baku-Ceyhan pipeline has began, someone has made sure that no Armenians were left in Baku anymore. Mr. Shack notes that "the mere elimination of the Armenian population of Baku would not solve the problem of ethnic conflict in that region. The surrounding areas would provide reservoir effect in resupplying the conflicting minority element." And he asks: "was the removal [in 1915-23] of a small minority like the Armenians [from historical Armenia] a fair price to pay for the peace in a region so crucial to the development and investment of the Far East?" Apparently Mr. Shack ignores the factor of revenge raging in the heart of human beasts.

Mr. Shacks answers his own question by stating in his article about the big business or big corporations: "It would be fair to say that the genocide of a group of a million or so, to serve the benefit of a billion or so [in the Far East], is less of a question of should it be done, than how it could be done. So as not to reveal any plausible motive which could link the actual planners to the genocide, the scheme involved a proxy party [namely the Muslim Turks, Kurds & Azeris] , which was manipulated through layers of influence, providing sufficient cover for the planners."

In chapter 30 of the book of Isaiah we read God speaking by His prophet: "Woe to the rebellious children, who execute a plan, but not Mine, and make an alliance, but not of My Spirit, in order to add sin to sin;...For this is a rebellious people, false sons, sons who refuse to listen to the instruction of the Lord."

This is not the whole story; there is an evil aliens connection to it. Amitakh Stanford, in her web-site <http://www.xeeatwelve.com> and in her article "The Anunnaki Remnants Are Still on Earth" writes: "It is these horrible beings, the Anunnaki, that Sitchin has written an apology for. Reading Sitchin's material, he has painted these evil aliens as palatably as possible by presenting the story that they are trying to save their own planet, and leaves the readers to believe that after that is accomplished, they would leave without a trace, so to speak. But, the Anunnaki came here to conquer and enslave, not for any worthy purpose whatsoever, nor will they leave voluntarily. "Anunnaki cull people and other species from the planet. Before, this was often referred to as genocide. However, today the more euphemistic term of "ethnic cleansing" is used. The disdain of other races is another vile Anunnaki-sponsored trait to divide people into factions and create hatred and distrust of one another. Any fair look at history will verify this as true. The twentieth-century Holocaust is one such example." So after all, we are not dealing with normal human beings, but by humans who are possessed with those alien entities and humans that are manipulated, influenced, and given instructions by those evil aliens in their various factions.

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This research article is not copyrighted. Reproduction is permitted. No one need waste time calling the author an 'anti-semite.' He will be the first to come to the help of a xxx if and when a xxxish life is in peril. Before you call him anti-semite your better call the God of the Bible and His prophets 'anti-semites.' If not, then you have to re-read the Bible...carefully.

For Joseph Brewda's article go to : SchillerInstitute.org then put the name of the author or title of his article in the search tab of the web-site of the institute. For Clifford Shack's article, put his name in the search tap of Yahoo in order to find his web-site where his article is posted.

The Turkish book "Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution" has no known English translation. It was translated into Armenian in 1939 in Beirut, Lebanon, by Donigian Press.

[HermanGerman]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

If you hold the jexs liable for the Armenian Genocide, you help the Turks duck responsibility. Some people here try to transfere their ideologically motivated hate against Jxxs in general to the Armenian people. They spread hate, nothing more. I myself know that the zioxxxxs have neven been our friends, but I would not let my emotions overcome my ability of rational and reasonable thinking.

[Mukuch]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

If you hold the jexs liable for the Armenian Genocide, you help the Turks duck responsibility. Some people here try to transfere their ideologically motivated hate against Jxxs in general to the Armenian people. They spread hate, nothing more. I myself know that the zioxxxxs have neven been our friends, but I would not let my emotions overcome my ability of rational and reasonable thinking.

That is a very good point!

[Mukuch]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

Here's one: What evidence in his past indicates that he is an anti-Semite?

xxxs, Zionists Behind Armenian Genocide Holocaust - By Jack Manuelian, 4-23-5

The plans of the 1915-23 Armenian Genocide, where a million and half Armenians perished in a barbaric way in their ancestral lands in modern Turkey, actually were drawn up and were in place by the year 1910 or 1912.....

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Jack Manuelian....a comedy figure...
Yah ... I bet you belive in that Illuminaty bullxxxx as well.... this is hopeless...I am out of this ....

Persopolis,are you realy Persian? I doubt it... I think I know who exactly you are.... this is getting boring

[Mos]

Re: Why some Armenians are anti semitic?

If you hold the jexs liable for the Armenian Genocide, you help the Turks duck responsibility. Some people here try to transfere their ideologically motivated hate against Jxxs in general to the Armenian people. They spread hate, nothing more. I myself know that the zioxxxxs have neven been our friends, but I would not let my emotions overcome my ability of rational and reasonable thinking.

Exactly, some people enthusiastically love to generalise for a whole people based on the actions of a few. It's like generalising that all Armenians are criminals because of a few Armenian criminal groups.