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  • #61
    Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

    Armenia: Egypt Events Energizing Opposition in Yerevan
    February 2, 2011 - 12:13pm, by Marianna Grigoryan
    Armenia Egypt Armenian Politics
    Inspired by recent developments in North Africa, Armenia’s largest opposition coalition is preparing for “large-scale rallies” in Yerevan’s Freedom Square starting on February 18.

    The government’s public response to the announcement by Levon Ter-Petrosian’s Armenian National Congress (ANC) has been muted. But official actions suggest that authorities are taking the potential for an “Egypt Effect” in Armenia seriously. Soon after the ANC revealed its protest plans, Yerevan city officials countered that Freedom Square would be off limits because it would be the scene of “sporting and cultural events” from February 15-March 15.

    ANC have leaders say that if they can’t secure permission to rally in Freedom Square via PR efforts and official application procedures, they will simply protest without a city permit.

    Freedom Square has long been the preferred site for opposition rallies, and it was the scene of the 2008 post-presidential election crackdown, during which at least 10 people were killed. The date selected for the rally -- the eve of the date of the 2008 presidential election, a vote that the ANC claims was stolen from Ter-Petrosian – is designed to reinforce the opposition message.

    Ter-Petrosian, a skilled orator and former president, has repeatedly pledged to restart the ANC’s rallies in Freedom Square and has routinely had to contend with supposed city “scheduling conflicts.” When the ANC has staged protests at other venues in recent years, they have failed to attract large numbers.

    This time, timing may be on the ANC’s side, some analysts believe.

    Aside from heated discussions among Armenians about the changes underway in Egypt and Tunisia, economic discontent is brewing in Armenia. An ANC demonstration, if it takes place, would come on the heels of angry protests by Yerevan street traders, whose activities were recently banned. High prices – consumer prices in 2010 increased by 8.8 percent compared with the previous year, according to the National Statistical Service – and near-double-digit inflation (9.4 percent in 2010) are fueling a growing sense of discontent.

    “Revolutions act like contagions,” said Manvel Sarkisian, a political analyst at the Armenian Center for National and International Studies. “In any event, the incidents in Tunisia and Egypt have already affected Armenia’s domestic life; the opposition has whipped up its excitement, and the authorities are responding accordingly.”

    For now, the reactions of both sides are “predictable,” Sarkisian said. For the opposition to succeed in promoting substantive political changes, he added, Ter-Petrosian and others have to move beyond simply talking about holding protest rallies. “They must set goals and achieve them,” Sarkisian said.

    The leader of the opposition Heritage Party’s parliamentary faction, Stepan Safarian, agreed; while the complaints of protesters in Egypt and Tunisia may resonate in Armenia amid the simmering discontent about runaway prices and dwindling jobs, staging a rally, by itself, is not much of a political goal. “We need to clarify the issues,” said Safarian. “Occupying Freedom Square cannot be a goal when we face the problem of restoring the rights of the people and many other important issues.”

    Eduard Sharmazanov, the spokesperson for President Serzh Sargsyan’s Republican Party of Armenia, downplayed the chances that the Egyptian and Tunisian uprisings will prompt a large number of Armenians to take to the streets. “There is some discontent in Armenia, but there are no grounds for a social revolt,” Sharmazanov. “Armenian authorities are determined to carry out reforms to alleviate the consequences of the [economic] crisis.”

    One Yerevan pensioner, 63-year-old Janik Avagian, scoffed at such rhetoric, and indicated a readiness to protest. Social and economic conditions, Avagian asserted, were worsening by the day. “Everything gets more expensive, the public utilities, the food, life, and the authorities only give promises,” Avagian said.

    In contrast to Avagian, one Yerevan taxi driver said that while events in Egypt had captivated the attention of Armenians, he personally remained reluctant to throw his support behind Ter-Petrosian. The driver, who declined to give his name, voiced disappointment over the outcome of the protest movement in 2008, and expressed the belief that Ter-Petrosian was merely trying to position himself for another presidential run in 2013. “After hundreds of thousands of people attended his rallies, and the notorious events [of 2008], Levon Ter-Petrosian dropped out of sight, and now he shows up again,” said the driver. “Why should I believe him?”

    Editor's note: Marianna Grigoryan is a freelance reporter in Yerevan and the editor of MediaLab.am.

    that summarizes ter-petrosyan, causes a huge protest, then disappears knowing he will be charged for his actions.

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    • #62
      Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
      I thought this is how they did war in the medieval times.
      No small part of the problem is that they are still living in medieval times.

      In North Africa, Berber/Amazigh separatism is on the rise and the region has been on the verge of going into open revolt against despotic and inept Arab rule for sometime.

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      • #63
        Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

        Taking advantage of the current mess in Tunisia and Egypt, the anti Armenian outlet known as, Public Forum Armenia (PFA), has been essentially calling for social unrest in Armenia. Along with their cohorts at ArmeniaNow, a1+, hetq, and similar anti-Armenian outlets. PFA is mainly doing this through their facebook and twitter accounts. What is really disturbing about this is that there are many Armenians who buy into the anti-Armenian propaganda, without thinking for themselves what their actually supporting.
        For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
        to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



        http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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        • #64
          Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

          Originally posted by Armanen View Post
          Taking advantage of the current mess in Tunisia and Egypt, the anti Armenian outlet known as, Public Forum Armenia (PFA), has been essentially calling for social unrest in Armenia. Along with their cohorts at ArmeniaNow, a1+, hetq, and similar anti-Armenian outlets. PFA is mainly doing this through their facebook and twitter accounts. What is really disturbing about this is that there are many Armenians who buy into the anti-Armenian propaganda, without thinking for themselves what their actually supporting.
          The sad thing is they know innocent people are going to die during these "protests" but they dont care. Look at how many people are dead in Egypt (300) and Tunisia (14) and yet they are saying Armenia should do the same. They think by causing a riot they will help the country? Look at Egypt, the country is in ruins and if the current situation was bad, imagine how many years it will take to reach the level they were at before the riots. The same thing about Armenia. If there are riots we can basically kiss Armenia goodbye. Those war mongering azeris will take advantage and attack. A war plus riots, imagine the death toll from these actions, imagine the toll this will have on the country.

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          • #65
            Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

            Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
            The sad thing is they know innocent people are going to die during these "protests" but they dont care. Look at how many people are dead in Egypt (300) and Tunisia (14) and yet they are saying Armenia should do the same. They think by causing a riot they will help the country? Look at Egypt, the country is in ruins and if the current situation was bad, imagine how many years it will take to reach the level they were at before the riots. The same thing about Armenia. If there are riots we can basically kiss Armenia goodbye. Those war mongering azeris will take advantage and attack. A war plus riots, imagine the death toll from these actions, imagine the toll this will have on the country.
            These "uprisings" are instigated through universities and colleges using the unemployed young people as a tool. Who else has nothing better to do all day except hang out in the streets. There is an old saying "idle hands are the devil's tools". You have to keep people busy or they'll think of ways to make trouble.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #66
              Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

              Alexander Iskandaryan: Recurrence of Egypt events in Armenia unlikely

              Anna Nazaryan
              “Radiolur”



              What’s happening in Egypt today is not a colored revolution, political scientist Alexander Iskandaryan says.

              "The population in Egypt and Tunis, which are considered more progressive in the Arab world, can use computers and organize acts of protest, as a result of which we witnessed such development of events. It’s quite possible that Islamists will assume the main role on the political field, which is a serious challenge to the region, including Armenia," he said.

              “If Islamists come to rule in Egypt’s politics, serious changes can be expected in the relations between Egypt and Israel. If Israel, which has lost its ally Turkey, loses Egypt, one of the most important countries in the Arab world, it will cause serious changes in the Middle East region,” Iskandaryan said.

              According to the political scientist, Iran’s role in the region will grow parallel to the weakening of Israel’s influence. The events in Egypt are unlikely to occur in Armenia, Iskandaryan told reporters.

              As for the intention of Armenian MPs to boycott the activity of PACE subcommittee on Nagorno Karabakh, the political scientist says “boycotting will be a non-diplomatic step.”

              http://www.armradio.am/news/?part=pol&id=19153
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • #67
                Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                Mortimer Zuckerman: Muslim Brotherhood would be a disaster for Egypt

                Mortimer Zuckerman is a US billionaire and influential member of the American j.e.w.ish community.

                He owns the New York Daily News and is a prominent commentator on US policy in the Middle East.

                He says if the opposition group the Muslim Brotherhood were to come to power in Egypt it would be a 'disaster' and enormously damaging to US interests in the region.

                Stephen Sackur asked him if it is time for the US to rethink its strategy in the Middle East.

                watch video:

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                • #68
                  Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                  FOX pundits support democracy, sometimes

                  Violence has erupted between protesters and armed pro-government activists in Egypt, leading many to conclude Mubarak’s reign is near its end. But, what will replace him?

                  Protests continue across Egypt, with continued calls for Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to step down and bring about democratic reforms. Protesters were not satisfied with his dismal of the government alone, or his promise not to seek reelection.

                  With the spike in violence and rise in protests it has became more evident Mubarak will eventually be removed from power, the question remains however what or who will replace him.

                  Many conservatives in the US are worried change could bring about a radical Islamist government. They oppose such an option at all costs, even if it is democratically elected.

                  Right leaning FOX News, owned by News Corp., is all too happy to promote American imperialistic ambitions when it comes to protest coverage in Egypt, highlighting conversations with conservatives John McCain, Tucker Carlson, and others.
                  “It’s possible in a country like Egypt, also in a country like Saudi Arabia, also in a county like Pakistan, if you left the majority of people decide the form of government they would wind up with a wacko anti-western, anti-democratic repressive government. What’s the point,” Carlson said.

                  “Now we have to make sure that a new election is free, fair, open, honest and that radical Islamic candidates or platforms are exposed for what they are,” McCain said.
                  The pundits are saying, “We want democracy as long as the people we want win,” explained David Swanson, an activist and the author of War is a Lie. “Which is of course not democracy.”

                  A lot of the fearmongering about Egypt does not line up with facts, he explained.
                  “Egypt is very unlikely given popular rule to turn into a radical theocracy,” Swanson commented. “These guys, Carlson and McCain, would have said the same thing about Al Gore and John Kerry when we elected them in this country. These are not people who respect democracy. These are people who see radical fanaticism in anybody who disagrees with them.”

                  In addition to spin, FOX News opted to cut away from live Egypt coverage in order to promote the launch of News Corps’ “The Daily,” a new pay service iPad application.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                    Originally posted by Lernakan View Post
                    Mortimer Zuckerman: Muslim Brotherhood would be a disaster for Egypt

                    Mortimer Zuckerman is a US billionaire and influential member of the American j.e.w.ish community.


                    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...lk/9383436.stm
                    Mortimer reminds of the two brothers from Trading Places and the bums on the street in Coming to America.

                    Last edited by KanadaHye; 02-03-2011, 04:05 PM.
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                    • #70
                      Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                      “Green revolution” propaganda launched in Azerbaijan’s public transport
                      February 3, 2011 - 18:47 AMT 14:47 GMT
                      PanARMENIAN.Net - “Green revolution” propaganda was launched in Azerbaijan’s public transport. Leaflets carrying mottos “Communism or Democracy?”, “Yesterday- hijab, today-mosque, what’s to be expected tomorrow?”.

                      The leaflets stress the necessity to protect traditions, openly urging to start a “green revolution”, Pia.az reported.

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