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  • #31
    Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

    Originally posted by Odar View Post
    Well I would not trust the Muslim Brotherhood - even if they're elected in a totally democratic way, it wouldn't be too hard for them to take back whatever promises they made and make things even worse for the Egyptians.
    This applies to every single political party.

    However, IF it happens, the West should only blame itself for failing to support real democracy in the Arab countries and choosing corrupt buffoons instead.
    Corrupt buffoons is the only way you could get the biggest Arab country in the region to turn their back on their fellow Arabs - the Palestinians.
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    • #32
      Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

      Originally posted by Federate View Post
      If the Muslim Brotherhood comes to power (which they have stated will happen through a democratic process), they have promised to put the Camp David peace accords to a nation-wide referendum. How much more democracy can the West want?

      Also, the former UN stooge Mohammad el-Baradei has returned to Cairo and is slowly becoming the face of the opposition as he has gathered with the 50 000 protestors defying curfew at the main liberation square.

      Mohammad el-Baradei has no following in the country. However no doubt he can count upon Tehran for support, given his years of tireless service to Iran.

      Since when have Arab Muslims believed in democracy, free elections and accountable government? The Gulf Arabs are sitting on three trillion USD in sovereign wealth funds. However they would much rather live a life of idleness and build mosques in the West. Than do anything to help impove the lot of their fellow Muslims.

      Whilst it's no real surprise that these North African regimes are collapsing under the weight of their own corruption and despotism. No small part of the reason why Egypt is so dysfunctional is that it is massively overpopulated.

      If the Muslim 'Brotherhood' comes to power in Egypt. Then the Muslims will likely take their frustrations out upon Egypt's Coptic Christian minority and Egypt's relations with Israel will go to hell.

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      • #33
        Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

        Egyptian Museum Damage

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        • #34
          Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

          Originally posted by retro View Post
          Egyptian Museum Damage

          Very tragic but relatively small damage. I read that two mummies had their heads ripped off and a few small artifacts were damaged but nothing more than that thanks to the civilian population who protected it from the looters and then the army that stormed the museum and backed them up.

          One guy was interviewed saying: "this is not Baghdad."
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          • #35
            Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

            Mohamed El-Baradei he’s a noble peace prize winner, cannot be trusted he’s a lapdog of western imperialism.

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            • #36
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              Azeri embassy staff killed in Egypt

              An Azerbaijani embassy worker has been killed in Egypt as the country is gripped by six days of bloody protests against the government of President Hosni Mubarak.

              The man, who worked as an accountant at the Cairo embassy, was killed Saturday evening as he was returning home from work, an Azerbaijani foreign ministry spokesman told AFP on Sunday.

              He could provide no further detail, although other reports said that the man had died of a gunshot wound.

              In Egypt, the popular uprising against the government of Mubarak is continuing.

              Reports say thousands of prisoners have escaped the detention facilities around Egypt during six days of anti-government protests that rocked the country following the revolution in Tunisia that led to the ouster of the Tunisian President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.

              The uprising also sent shockwaves across Arab and North African nations including Egypt, Yemen and Jordan.

              Meanwhile, tens of thousands of protesters have defied the extended curfew in major cities in Egypt. Reports say government forces have opened fire on protesters in the port city of el-Arish.

              More than 100 people have been killed and hundreds of others have been injured in six days of unrest in the North African nation.

              Other reports say demonstrators are carrying the bodies of killed protesters to Cairo's Tahrir Square, a major protest site.

              The protesters want Mubarak to step down. But the president has only sacked his cabinet and promised economic and political reforms.

              RZS/HRF

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              • #37
                Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                Azerbaijan is going to think it was an Egyptian-Armenian that killed him.

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                • #38
                  Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                  Originally posted by Davo88 View Post
                  Azerbaijan is going to think it was an Egyptian-Armenian that killed him.
                  Azerbaijani embassy staff member assassinated by Armenian 'cell' in Egypt


                  31 January 2011 [14:15] - Today.Az

                  An Azerbaijani embassy worker was gunned down Saturday evening in Egypt amidst the tumoil that has gripped the country since protestors took to the streets on January 25, calling for the resignation of democractically-elected President Hosni Mubarak.

                  The man, identified as 96 year-old Ufuk Khanmammadov, was on his way home from work when a masked assailant ambushed Khanmammadov and fired 3 shots, fatally wounding him. The man's body was found mutilated moments later by passerbys who immediately formed a human chain around the body in order to protect it from the fire that had ingulfed the nearby jewelry store that reportedly belongs to an Egyptian man of Armenian origin.

                  An Azerbaijani foreign ministry spokesman told Day.az on Monday that there have been unconfirmed reports that this was a targeted assassination attempt by an Armenian cell operating within the country. Egyptian police, who have been virtually ineffective in stopping the illegal protests taking place across the country, have vowed to concentrate all their efforts into tracking down the assailant and are looking into the possibility that the Armenian xxxeler, whose shop was burning next to scene of the crime, was linked to the assassination.

                  "The Egyptian police have been highly cooperative with the investigation so far and we continue to value the effort they have put in order to track down the criminals and bring justice to the biggest crime against Azerbaijan since Xocalu." said Azerbaijani embassy staff member Vugar Abiyev. When asked if there might be a connection between Xocalu and this murder by Day.az staff, Abiyev responded that he suspects there is a link given the similarities between the mutilation of dead Azerbaijani bodies in Xocalu and the mutilation of Khanmammadov.

                  Notable Azerbaijani expert in Middle East affairs Dr. Javid Bayramov thinks that a dormant ASALA cell in Egypt is responsible for the assassination. "This definitely has the hallmarks of the Armenian terror group ASALA. ASALA is notorious for committing such crimes against humanity. Let us recall the countless murders of innocent women and children in the 1970s and 80s."

                  When asked whether Dr. Bayramov believes ASALA might have a hand in formenting the Egyptian unrest that has threatened President Mubarak, Dr. Bayramov was quoted as saying that it is rather another Armenian terror organisation, ARF Dashnakcutyun that is inciting the riots throughout the country. "The Dashnaks are well established in Egypt for decades now and they have waited for an opportunity to turn Egypt against their Muslim brothers in Turkey and Azerbaijan. Hosni Mubarak has been a great friend of Azerbaijan and this has probably incited them to topple the government. They did the same thing with Boghos Nubar Pasha in the early 1900s and possibly want a repeat scenario."

                  Meanwhile, protestors made up of mostly unemployed men and Karabakh Liberation Organisation (KLO) members took to the streets in Baku to condemn the killing and chanting "Justice for Khanmammadov, justice for Xocalu! NO to Armenian terrorism! NO to Dashnaks!"

                  Azerbaijani president Ilham Aliyev appeared on state television to condemn the killing and vowed to take back Karabakh by force as a reprisal if Armenia was found to be sheltering the suspect. Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak meanwhile took time off from his busy schedule to call president Aliyev in order to offer his condolences.

                  /APA/

                  URL: http://www.today.az/?=this_link_does_not_work
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                  • #39
                    Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                    Originally posted by Federate View Post
                    Azerbaijani embassy staff member assassinated by Armenian 'cell' in Egypt


                    31 January 2011 [14:15] - Today.Az

                    An Azerbaijani embassy worker was gunned down Saturday evening in Egypt amidst the tumoil that has gripped the country since protestors took to the streets on January 25, calling for the resignation of democractically-elected President Hosni Mubarak.

                    The man, identified as 96 year-old Ufuk Khanmammadov, was on his way home from work when a masked assailant ambushed Khanmammadov and fired 3 shots, fatally wounding him. The man's body was found mutilated moments later by passerbys who immediately formed a human chain around the body in order to protect it from the fire that had ingulfed the nearby jewelry store that reportedly belongs to an Egyptian man of Armenian origin.

                    An Azerbaijani foreign ministry spokesman told Day.az on Monday that there have been unconfirmed reports that this was a targeted assassination attempt by an Armenian cell operating within the country. Egyptian police, who have been virtually ineffective in stopping the illegal protests taking place across the country, have vowed to concentrate all their efforts into tracking down the assailant and are looking into the possibility that the Armenian xxxeler, whose shop was burning next to scene of the crime, was linked to the assassination.

                    "The Egyptian police have been highly cooperative with the investigation so far and we continue to value the effort they have put in order to track down the criminals and bring justice to the biggest crime against Azerbaijan since Xocalu." said Azerbaijani embassy staff member Vugar Abiyev. When asked if there might be a connection between Xocalu and this murder by Day.az staff, Abiyev responded that he suspects there is a link given the similarities between the mutilation of dead Azerbaijani bodies in Xocalu and the mutilation of Khanmammadov.

                    Notable Azerbaijani expert in Middle East affairs Dr. Javid Bayramov thinks that a dormant ASALA cell in Egypt is responsible for the assassination. "This definitely has the hallmarks of the Armenian terror group ASALA. ASALA is notorious for committing such crimes against humanity. Let us recall the countless murders of innocent women and children in the 1970s and 80s."

                    When asked whether Dr. Bayramov believes ASALA might have a hand in formenting the Egyptian unrest that has threatened President Mubarak, Dr. Bayramov was quoted as saying that it is rather another Armenian terror organisation, ARF Dashnakcutyun that is inciting the riots throughout the country. "The Dashnaks are well established in Egypt for decades now and they have waited for an opportunity to turn Egypt against their Muslim brothers in Turkey and Azerbaijan. Hosni Mubarak has been a great friend of Azerbaijan and this has probably incited them to topple the government. They did the same thing with Boghos Nubar Pasha in the early 1900s and possibly want a repeat scenario."

                    Meanwhile, protestors made up of mostly unemployed men and Karabakh Liberation Organisation (KLO) members took to the streets in Baku to condemn the killing and chanting "Justice for Khanmammadov, justice for Xocalu! NO to Armenian terrorism! NO to Dashnaks!"

                    Azerbaijani president Ilham Aliyev appeared on state television to condemn the killing and vowed to take back Karabakh by force as a reprisal if Armenia was found to be sheltering the suspect. Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak meanwhile took time off from his busy schedule to call president Aliyev in order to offer his condolences.

                    /APA/

                    URL: http://www.today.az/?=this_link_does_not_work
                    1.) how did they figure out it was an Armenian? Because his body was found near an Armenian xxxelers store?
                    2.) Who is Ufuk Khanmammadov to have been "assassinated"?
                    3.) I seriously doubt the police are going to waste there time looking into this since the whole city is in turmoil?
                    4.) It has to be the ASALA, all there evidence points to the ASALA, or the Dashnaks.
                    5.) Mubarak, who is basically hiding right now, has enough time to call Aliyev and send his condolences?
                    6.) Even thou the US is telling Mubarak to step down now, it was the Armenians who tried to overthrow Mubarak?
                    7.) I guess these idiots don't know how well respected Armenians are in Egypt.
                    8.) If this is similar to khojaly than i guess the assassin was an azeri.
                    9.) When i read azeri embassy member assassinated and i saw that guys picture i was so happy that rat faced idiot was finally gone, but was sadly disappointed when i read it wasnt him.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Revolutions in the Middle East

                      Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
                      1.) how did they figure out it was an Armenian? Because his body was found near an Armenian xxxelers store?
                      2.) Who is Ufuk Khanmammadov to have been "assassinated"?
                      3.) I seriously doubt the police are going to waste there time looking into this since the whole city is in turmoil?
                      4.) It has to be the ASALA, all there evidence points to the ASALA, or the Dashnaks.
                      5.) Mubarak, who is basically hiding right now, has enough time to call Aliyev and send his condolences?
                      6.) Even thou the US is telling Mubarak to step down now, it was the Armenians who tried to overthrow Mubarak?
                      7.) I guess these idiots don't know how well respected Armenians are in Egypt.
                      8.) If this is similar to khojaly than i guess the assassin was an azeri.
                      9.) When i read azeri embassy member assassinated and i saw that guys picture i was so happy that rat faced idiot was finally gone, but was sadly disappointed when i read it wasnt him.
                      It's a parody article I wrote ))
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