Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

[hrai]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

Well actually Turkey's blockade/closure of border is an illegal act in accordance with international law. On top of that, their pre-conditions on open the border makes it impossible for any thing to be done. Plus in establish official ties with Turkey we would accept that Western Armenia is part of Turkey, when in fact there are repirations to be made in that regard, as the native Armenian populace of Western Armenia was illegally cleansed from their lands.

Any agreement made would set the present border, surely that can't be in Armenia's interests?
If this border is opened Armenia would be flooded by turcs and the countries economy would go down the pan, have a look at Georgia.
Opening the border would be like putting a cat-flap on your kitchen door when you lived in the lion's den.

[Mos]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

I am from Turkey. I don't want my country to become any sort of 'leader' in the Middle East. The AKP are a bunch of neo-Ottomanist, Islamist (or 'semi-Islamist', if that's more suitable) imperialists.

Turkey should concentrate on having good relations with its neighbors, including Armena. I am so annoyed that the land border is closed. Turkey should open the border and stop causing so much economic difficulty to many Armenians.

As for EU, I think Turkey won't be able to join the EU because there is the Cyprus factor. If there is no development in the Cyprus issue, the EU-accession talks won't go ahead much. Sad but true.

Cem

Well actually Turkey's blockade/closure of border is an illegal act in accordance with international law. On top of that, their pre-conditions on open the border makes it impossible for any thing to be done. Plus in establish official ties with Turkey we would accept that Western Armenia is part of Turkey, when in fact there are repirations to be made in that regard, as the native Armenian populace of Western Armenia was illegally cleansed from their lands.

[Joseph]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

I am from Turkey. I don't want my country to become any sort of 'leader' in the Middle East. The AKP are a bunch of neo-Ottomanist, Islamist (or 'semi-Islamist', if that's more suitable) imperialists.

Turkey should concentrate on having good relations with its neighbors, including Armena. I am so annoyed that the land border is closed. Turkey should open the border and stop causing so much economic difficulty to many Armenians.

As for EU, I think Turkey won't be able to join the EU because there is the Cyprus factor. If there is no development in the Cyprus issue, the EU-accession talks won't go ahead much. Sad but true.

Cem

Cem,

Agree with most of your sentiments.

But as bad as the AKP are, it seems the CHP and the MHP (especially the MHP who are essentially akin the a Turkish Nazi party,) are potentially worse- the choice seems to be either pan-Islam (AKP) or pan-Turk (CHP, MHP). As stupid as the AKP is, they have done far more to promote equal rights of minorities since 2002 than all previous regimes combined. I certainly do not like/trust them but they appear to be the lesser of all evils in my opinion with regards to political parties/movements in Ankara.

I agree that keeping the border closed is shortsighted as much more can be accomplished with normal communication and trade. It is not Armenia with the preconditions but Turkey and Turkey keeps trying to change the format, goalposts, posturing, adding conditions, bullying, etc. Normal relations would build trust and magnanimity and benefit Turkey's "ethnic brethren", the Azeris. Thus far all attempts at normalcy have failed due to the aforementioned.

Furthermore, I'll never understand why Turkey refuses diplomatic relations with Armenia when even India and Pakistan have exchanged ambassadors/talk directly, how can anything be accomplished by behind the scenes diplomacy, small-scale cultural exchanges, communicating through third parties? My opinion isthat there really isn't a desire or political will for Turkey to help remedy the situation.

[Antifascist]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

I am from Turkey. I don't want my country to become any sort of 'leader' in the Middle East. The AKP are a bunch of neo-Ottomanist, Islamist (or 'semi-Islamist', if that's more suitable) imperialists.

Turkey should concentrate on having good relations with its neighbors, including Armena. I am so annoyed that the land border is closed. Turkey should open the border and stop causing so much economic difficulty to many Armenians.

As for EU, I think Turkey won't be able to join the EU because there is the Cyprus factor. If there is no development in the Cyprus issue, the EU-accession talks won't go ahead much. Sad but true.

Cem

[Haykakan]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

TURKEY SIGNS MILITARY PACT WITH AZERBAIJAN

HETQ
13:56, October 14, 2011

Turkey's Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz, now in Baku on an official
visit, stated yesterday that Turkey is ready to extend support to
the Azerbaijani armed forces.

Yilmaz told reporters that a bilateral strategic cooperation agreement
had been signed between Ankara and Baku.

[Mukuch]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

Cool, I see you are having great time trying to convince each other like "hey don't worry Turks won't roll us on their fingers". Fail. I can smell poop in your pants.

LOL
what a figure...))))

[lipton]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

Cool, I see you are having great time trying to convince each other like "hey don't worry Turks won't roll us on their fingers". Fail. I can smell poop in your pants.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

I think countries should mind their own business and get their own house in order before trying to be leader for other countries.

[Armanen]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

Nice one Yedtarts!


No, turkey is not a regional leader. They have tense relations with the Greeks and Syrians, although there has been a thaw recently. Furthermore, they have no relations with Armenia, so they automatically can't lay any leadership role in the Caucasus.

In my opinion Iran is better poised to be a regional leader, and once the US leaves Iraq, we will indeed start to see an increase of Iranian leadership in the region. Iran has decent to good relations with its neighbors (unlike turkey), has a large population, and is rich with natural resources (again unlike turkey). If they do not mess with Russia's dominant position in the Caucasus, and instead attempt to form an axis with Moscow and Beijing they have much to gain.

[Yedtarts]

Re: Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

Do you think Turkey has become a regional Leader?

Yeah, regional around my d**k area leader