Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

[Mos]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

You didn't read the rest. Even though they don't agree with the Zionists, they still support Israel. It's their homeland. They may not like who's in power but they are still in support of the Israeli state even if they don't admit it.

A Zionist is an ardent supporter of Israel who has his ultimate allegiance to Israel and the interests of Israel. Not all J3ws fall into that category. There is a difference between a J3w who passively supports Israel and a Zionist who tends to be right wing and has allegiance to Israel and its interest above everything else. If you even talk to J3ws they admit to these divisons within themselves. And I am not even talking about the J3ws who are indifferent about Israel. So certainly all Zionists are J3ws (except the neo-cons) but all J3ws are not Zionists.

Again, where is evidence that Zionists are taking over.

Well i guess since people confessed there is no reason to doubt the official line. Heh this kind of reasoning is as flawed as the rest of your arguments. Did it ever cross your mind that these confessions are staged-fake? Did it ever make you wonder why the "trials" were not open to the public? The guy who "confessed" will never be seen again so how do you even know if he really is in jail? If i confess to blowing up the earth then i guess it must be true and you must be living on another planet since the earth was blown up. Do you see the flaw in your logic yet?

Err, I was talking about the non-interrogation confessions. Osama was never interrogated and yet he claimed his group's responsibility in the attack. Though I don't agree that any country (including US) should torture in interrogating, the information that was gotten from those interrogation were essential in tracking Osama down.

You shouldn't be the one talking when it comes to flawed arguments. You're the one suggesting a Zionist plot to take over the world, yet provide no concrete evidence supporting you claims. Seems more like from a paranoid fantasy tale.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

A Zionist is an ardent supporter of Israel who has his ultimate allegiance to Israel and the interests of Israel. Not all J3ws fall into that category. There is a difference between a J3w who passively supports Israel and a Zionist who tends to be right wing and has allegiance to Israel and its interest above everything else. If you even talk to J3ws they admit to these divisons within themselves. And I am not even talking about the J3ws who are indifferent about Israel. So certainly all Zionists are J3ws (except the neo-cons) but all J3ws are not Zionists.

Again, where is evidence that Zionists are taking over.

They took over the world prior to WWI.

[Mos]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

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Al Qaeda confirms bin Laden's death
May 6, 2011 - 17:06 AMT
PanARMENIAN.Net - Al Qaeda released a statement on jihadist forums Friday, May 6 confirming the death of its leader, Osama bin Laden, according to SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors Islamist websites.
The development comes days after U.S. troops killed bin Laden in a raid on a compound in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad.
The statement, translated by SITE, lauded the late militant, threatened to take action against the United States, and urged Pakistanis to "rise up and revolt."
Bin Laden's death will serve as a "curse that chases the Americans and their agents, and goes after them inside and outside their countries," the message said.
"Soon -- with help from Allah -- their happiness will turn into sorrow, and their blood will be mixed with their tears," it said.
The statement said al Qaeda will "continue on the path of jihad, the path walked upon by our leaders, and on top of them" bin Laden "without hesitation or reluctance.
"We will not deviate from that or change until Allah judges between us and between our enemy with truth. Indeed, He is the best of all judges. Nothing will harm us after that, until we see either victory and success and conquest and empowerment, or we die trying."
It said that Americans "will never enjoy security until our people in Palestine enjoy it."
"The soldiers of Islam, groups and individuals, will continue planning without tiredness or boredom, and without despair or surrender, and without weakness or stagnancy, until they cause the disaster that makes children look like the elderly!"
It urged Pakistanis "to cleanse this shame that has been attached to them by a clique of traitors and thieves" and "from the filth of the Americans who spread corruption in it."
Bin Laden and other militants used the Internet to post messages to their followers before and after al Qaeda's September, 11, 2001 attack on the United States, BBC reported.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

Another bedtime story please.

[Mos]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

Another bedtime story please.

So if something doesn't fit your narrow conspiracy views it's a bedtime story, now?

[Federate]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

So if something doesn't fit your narrow conspiracy views it's a bedtime story, now?

I don't like the label "conspiracy" to dismiss people asking questions that are perfectly logical to be asking. The government says 9/11 was an al-Qaeda conspiracy against the US. That too is a "conspiracy theory". Since when is the idea that people, who have jobs that are based on being secret, sit down somewhere and plan something so ridiculous?

What is "al-Qaeda" anyway? It's a brand. Anyone can wake up and claim to be claiming in the name of so-called "al-Qaeda" one day. There are no membership cards. All of a sudden "jihadist forums" are reliable sources/tools for claiming things.

[Mos]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

I don't like the label "conspiracy" to dismiss people asking questions that are perfectly logical to be asking. The government says 9/11 was an al-Qaeda conspiracy against the US. That too is a "conspiracy theory". Since when is the idea that people, who have jobs that are based on being secret, sit down somewhere and plan something so ridiculous?

What is "al-Qaeda" anyway? It's a brand. Anyone can wake up and claim to be claiming in the name of so-called "al-Qaeda" one day. There are no membership cards. All of a sudden "jihadist forums" are reliable sources/tools for claiming things.

So it's perfectly logical to say that J3ws are taking over the world and this whole al-Qaeda thing is just created in Hollywood? That to me seems very illogical and absurd - as the people here saying it can't come up with any evidence to back this ridiculous claim.

So you are saying it's impossible to stage terrorist attacks? That people can't organise themselves and attack something given they have the resources and training?

Al-Qaeda revolves around its principles which it uses internet/tv to spread and gain volunteers/supporters. Saying that al-Qaeda is just a hollywood creation demands credible proof or else it's just a blatant lie.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

So it's perfectly logical to say that J3ws are taking over the world and this whole al-Qaeda thing is just created in Hollywood? That to me seems very illogical and absurd - as the people here saying it can't come up with any evidence to back this ridiculous claim.

So you are saying it's impossible to stage terrorist attacks? That people can't organise themselves and attack something given they have the resources and training?

Al-Qaeda revolves around its principles which it uses internet/tv to spread and gain volunteers/supporters. Saying that al-Qaeda is just a hollywood creation demands credible proof or else it's just a blatant lie.

Right, so you're telling me that while the U.S. government created laws in America to spy and wire tap and have access to people's internet dealings without warrant but between the CIA, Mossad and British intelligence, they couldn't track or block the internet traffic from Al Qaeda operatives. Makes sense because they were more worried about the spread of bootleg movies and music than catching "terrorists".

[Mos]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

Right, so you're telling me that while the U.S. government created laws in America to spy and wire tap and have access to people's internet dealings without warrant but between the CIA, Mossad and British intelligence, they couldn't track or block the internet traffic from Al Qaeda operatives. Makes sense because they were more worried about the spread of bootleg movies and music than catching "terrorists".

Do even know how al-qaeda's information is spread? There isn't a "al-qaeda.com" that is official website to all their material - they are more covert and smart than that, they spread their information through different means, through different websites. That being said, West has actively worked on closing some notable websites and threatening the hosts that host them.

[Federate]

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So it's perfectly logical to say that J3ws are taking over the world and this whole al-Qaeda thing is just created in Hollywood? That to me seems very illogical and absurd - as the people here saying it can't come up with any evidence to back this ridiculous claim.

So you are saying it's impossible to stage terrorist attacks? That people can't organise themselves and attack something given they have the resources and training?

Al-Qaeda revolves around its principles which it uses internet/tv to spread and gain volunteers/supporters. Saying that al-Qaeda is just a hollywood creation demands credible proof or else it's just a blatant lie.

I haven't said anything that you have mentioned. When Kanada says Hollywood, he does not mean Hollywood literally, he means it's all a show/front/manipulation. As for the J3ws, they have overrepresentative power in all levels of society and this is fact. Within these levels of society, Zionists are represented as well and they work for their interests through the only superpower in the world. These interests run counter to most other countries, including the host one as Michael Sheuer has described in Kanada's posted video. I don't know if "taking over the world" is the right way to describe this though.

Quite the contrary, i'm saying it is very easy to stage (excellent choice of word ) terrorist attacks. Men in suits with briefcases can be as much terrorists as people with sandals and beards. The difference is that the first kind has more resources . I would not be quick to rule out any kind of conspiracy theory for the government's claims are just as much one of those than other people's claims are. Asking questions and demanding answers is great. For some people, this is crazy and unpatriotic.

Some good links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_operation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag