Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Pentagon Attack on 911

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

    Wow I have pissed off the guy with the avatar full of crosses! Surprise surprise. Thanks for further illuminating my point so well.

    But here's something to ponder ... if the mainstream thinking here is that I am an idiot, wouldn't that actually mean that in reality I am very smart? Think about it! You might actually reach the conclusion that will make Armenian very proud of you
    Last edited by Sip; 12-31-2007, 01:35 AM.
    this post = teh win.

    Comment


    • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

      Originally posted by Sip View Post
      Wow I have pissed off the guy with the avatar full of crosses! Surprise surprise. Thanks for further illuminating my point so well.

      But here's something to ponder ... if the mainstream thinking here is that I am an idiot, wouldn't that actually mean that in reality I am very smart?
      This is Ara B type thinking

      Comment


      • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

        Originally posted by Fedayeen View Post
        today internet is the only place to get news
        and junk. Unfortunately there is far more junk than news on the net.
        this post = teh win.

        Comment


        • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

          Originally posted by Sip View Post
          Wow I have pissed off the guy with the avatar full of crosses! Surprise surprise. Thanks for further illuminating my point so well.

          But here's something to ponder ... if the mainstream thinking here is that I am an idiot, wouldn't that actually mean that in reality I am very smart? Think about it! You might actually reach the conclusion that will make Armenian very proud of you
          What would be more interesting for you? An avatar with full of stars of david?
          Surprise surprise. (1.5 million? )

          Comment


          • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

            I'll tell you what the problem with this thread is ... the problem is that it selectively picks some very narrow articles to support a certain hypothesis that is assumed to be true right from the get go (just read the first post and you'll see what I mean).

            But the reality is, that for every article that claims some sort of grand "cover up" or "setup" with respect to 9/11, there are about a zillion that portray it otherwise. It is rather convenient to simply dismiss all the rest as "mainstream propaganda" while selecting these very specific and hand selected few and declaring them as truths.

            Now of course while about a million different theories are plausible when it comes to 9/11, the reality is that planes hijacked with islamic fundamentalists linked to Al Qaeda crashed into some buildings. They all died. Al Qaeda proudly took responsiblity and the US went in and destroyed Afghanistan. The rest of the hoopla of "the jews knew", "bush did it", "secret service knew", CIA an FBI came up with this during dinner at Chucky Cheese etc etc etc are all theories.

            The problem is some people tend to entertain themselves a bit too much with these ultra skewed views of reality and tend to become a bit biased towards what is "truth".
            this post = teh win.

            Comment


            • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

              Originally posted by Sip View Post
              I'll tell you what the problem with this thread is ...
              Deaf, dumb and blind individuals like you are the problem in discussing this topic.

              the problem is that it selectively picks some very narrow articles to support a certain hypothesis that is assumed to be true right from the get go (just read the first post and you'll see what I mean).
              I have selectively picked 'quite a few' legitimate articles, news reports, interviews, documentaries, commentaries and essays to make my point.

              The posts found in this thread deal with:

              Bush's intimate relations with the Bin Ladens...

              How a Boeing 757 disappeared inside the Pentagon without a trace...

              News reports about the Pakistani ISI director, who just prior to the 9/11 attacks had sent terrorist ring leader Muhammad Ata $100000, being in Washington on the morning of the attacks having secret talks...

              FBI agents arresting dozens of Israeli Mossad agents in connection with the 9/11 investigation...

              Employees of an Israeli firm in the TWC being warned not to go to work on the morning of 9/11...

              How the Anthrax virus that terrorized America soon after the 9/11 attacks was traced to government laboratories in the US...

              How a bunch of young Arabs, who supposedly could not even properly fly a Cessna, performed great feats of aerobatics with massive airliners...

              How the Taliban and the Al-Qaeda are Pakistan based organizations with links to US intelligence, and how they worked side-by-side with US agents in Bosnia, Kosovo and Chechnya...

              How young uneducated Muslim youth are often times recruited by major intelligence agencies (such as MI6, Mossad, CIA, ISI) to perform various operations...

              Multiple anti-terrorism drills being conducted on the same day of the 9/11 attacks which in essence served to preoccupy NORAD and the USAF airplanes that were assigned to protect the American air space...

              How the 9/11 attacks have been used by Neocons in Washington DC as a pretext to invade oil rich Iraq (which had nothing to do with 9/11) and threaten Iran and Syria (who had nothing to do with 9/11)...

              How since 9/11 the US government has given billions in aid to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan - the only two nations on earth where militant Islamic fundamentalism is nurtured and exported, and the only two nations on earth that had intimate connections to the supposed terrorists that carried out the 9/11...

              WTC-7, a modern concert and steel structure, although 'not' hit by an aircraft collapsed exactly the same way as the Twin Towers - in almost free-fall speed, onto its very own footprint...

              How numerous eyewitness - cops, firemen, WTC employees, etc - reported hearing explosions throughout the WTC buildings just prior to its collapse...

              And much, much more...


              I may have personal theories and ideas regarding what occurred on that day. However, I do not know for sure how the attacks were carried out, who organized/ordered/funded the attacks, why was it done, etc... I do know for sure, however, that what we are being told by the government is very-very-very far from the truth. And even if a single article of the official story is shown to be false, or unfounded, then whole stinking official fairytale revolving around 9/11 falls apart. The fact of the matter is, outside of the US, a majority of the people are convinced that elements within the US government (perhaps with the assistance of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and/or Israel) were complicit in the crime perpetrated on 9/11. Only in this country are there large numbers of idiots that still believe the official line: Namely that the evil one, Ossama and his the Islamic terrorist buddies, the bad guys, hate our freedom, hate our democracy, as a result they wants to kill us all, men women and child... However, this is gradually changing as more-and-more Americans today are beginning to wake up from their slumber. For someone to believe the absolute BS that officials have attempted to sell us is imbecilic to say the least.

              The official line 'is' the conspiracy.

              But the reality is, that for every article that claims some sort of grand "cover up" or "setup" with respect to 9/11, there are about a zillion that portray it otherwise.
              Do us a favor and post just a few if you don't mind. But first make sure you educated yourself regarding the topic of discussion. Forum member Armeniankid, the kid that is serving in the US Army, attempted to refute my claims regarding the Pentagon and this is what his posted link had to say about the supposed airliner that is said to have hit the Pentagon and disappeared without a trace:

              As the front of the Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, the outer portions of the wings likely snapped during the initial impact, then were pushed inward towards the fuselage and carried into the building's interior; the inner portions of the wings probably penetrated the Pentagon walls with the rest of the plane.
              In attempting to explain where the Boeing 757's wings, tail section and engines went this is what they came up with

              The scenario created in the sentence in question is so outlandish, so absurd, so irrational, it might as well have appeared in some low budget Sci-Fi flick. But seeing your intellectual caliber, I am sure it makes perfect sense to you.

              And let's consider the release of the official Pentagon parking lot video, my first post. The low quality grainy video clip showed 'no' Boeing 757 airliner hitting the Pentagon. You know what was funny? The video was being hailed by spin masters and government pundits at the time as the video clip that would silenced the "conspiracy" theorists... But let's put that aside for a moment and think: The most protected building on the planet, the Pentagon, has only a little dinky grainy parking lot video camera to monitor its grounds?

              The problem is some people tend to entertain themselves a bit too much with these ultra skewed views of reality and tend to become a bit biased towards what is "truth".
              The problem is some people tend to be, simply speaking, stupid.
              Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

              Նժդեհ


              Please visit me at my Heralding the Rise of Russia blog: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

              Comment


              • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

                Originally posted by Armenian View Post
                The problem is some people tend to be, simply speaking, stupid.
                They are not "stupid", I would say the "Sip type" are very smart, they are just "xxxxx whiped" by the government. Essentially, they have become the handjob of corporations and government that want to blend all kinds sludge together in order to make sure the state functions. All this at the expense of displacing foreigners and destroying their authonomy (i.e. setting up puppet governments, making sure the resources flow to the west, and reconstructing the basic functions in the image of the west, the final point is employed to make sure the contracts are provided by American firms, they want to make the last marginal profit on the blood foreigners. As a American, I am ashamed and, I am, essentially, a by product of these actions, Iranian authonomy was undermined and it got to the point where they had to resort to fanitical measures to oust western influences, sad, a people like the Persians, so use to culture and civlity, reduced to a bunch of religious zealots because the west refused to allow the Iranians to shape their own destiny.). The "Siphan type" have forgotten the ruthless actions carried out by the United States towards the Middle-East, he has forgotten about Operation Ajax, people quickly forget and history, thus, will always repeat itself. Again, the naive deserve to be used.
                Last edited by Virgil; 01-02-2008, 11:39 PM.

                Comment


                • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

                  Originally posted by Sip View Post
                  the reality is that planes hijacked with islamic fundamentalists linked to Al Qaeda crashed into some buildings. They all died. Al Qaeda proudly took responsiblity and the US went in and destroyed Afghanistan. The rest of the hoopla of "the jews knew", "bush did it", "secret service knew", CIA an FBI came up with this during dinner at Chucky Cheese etc etc etc are all theories.
                  I'll give this a shot to see if it's possible to have a serious discussion with you. "The reality" -- where did you get this alleged reality?

                  Comment


                  • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

                    Originally posted by Virgil View Post
                    They are not "stupid", I would say the "Sip type" are very smart, they are just "xxxxx whiped" by the government...
                    When I say "stupid" I mean more in the sense that they don't have intellectual depth, spiritual wisdom or analytical skills. These types of people are organisms that seek physical pleasures and mental entertainment at all times. These types of people thrive on primal pleasures. They also tend to be very materialistic, selfish and spoiled. These types of people try hard to steer away from thinking, or feeling, or asking questions. These are the types of people the political/financial elite love to have as constituents...
                    Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

                    Նժդեհ


                    Please visit me at my Heralding the Rise of Russia blog: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

                    Comment


                    • Re: Pentagon Attack on 911

                      Armenian, I will just say you basically have no clue how much "analytical skills" I actually have. Your conclusions about me are very much in par with your conclusions about many things you post ... based on your feelings.

                      Other than the ridiculous personal insults that seem to be inevitable whenever someone's viewpoints are challenged here, some interesting points have been raised above which I really hope I will have time to come back and address in a serious manner.

                      But please, don't simply assume I must be an idiot just because I tend to disagree with your skewed beliefs at times.
                      Last edited by Sip; 01-03-2008, 04:22 PM.
                      this post = teh win.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X