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Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

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  • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

    Wednesday, February 06, 2008
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    OUR BETTERS OR OUR WORST?
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    Since time immemorial man has known that “a house divided against itself cannot stand.” And yet, the only enterprise in which our leaders have been consistently successful throughout our millennial existence has been in dividing us and in keeping us divided.
    Our writers have called them “useless” (Zarian) and “brainless” (Issahakian), and if you think they overstated their case, you should hear what they (our leaders) call one another.
    Once, many years ago, when I published an interview with a Tashnak leader, which dealt not with politics or history but with childhood reminiscences and the personalities that had shaped his character and worldview, a Ramgavar leader published an attack so nasty that I was left speechless. This may explain the gutter mentality of some of my brainwashed partisan critics.
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    When things didn’t work out for them, the Bagratunis moved to Georgia, and from Georgia to Russia. When our revolution in the Ottoman Empire failed, our revolutionaries abandoned the people at the mercy of butchers and kept themselves busy by writing long-winded memoirs. They had a Plan B for themselves but only a Plan A for the people.
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    They flatter us by bragging about our survival in an environment where many others perished. They are right: “they” survived all right while countless others did not. They survived to what end and for what purpose? To divide us, of course, and to make sure we stay divided. That’s because that is the only undertaking in which they excel – after all, they had millennia of practice in which to refine and master the technique.
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    Are they our betters or our worst? I will let you answer that question in the hope you will come up with the right answer not because you are smart (I will let them use the maneuver of treating you like fools after flattering you to believe you are just about the smartest people on earth) but because I trust you are capable of using your common sense, which, it has been said, is the least common of all faculties.
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    • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

      Originally posted by crusader1492 View Post
      HAPPY BIRTHDAY HARUT SASSOUNIAN!!!!




      Harut Sassounian
      From Armeniapedia.org

      Harut Sassounian at Hai Tad Evening in ANCAHarut Sassounian, the publisher of The California Courier newspaper, is the President of the United Armenian Fund which has shipped $460 million worth of humanitarian assistance to Armenia since 1989. He is also the Vice Chairman of The Lincy Foundation which has funded $230 million worth of infrastructure projects in Armenia and Artsakh. He worked for Procter and Gamble in Geneva, Switzerland, as an international marketing executive from 1978 to 1982. He served for 10 years as a non-governmental delegate on human rights at the United Nations in Geneva, playing a key role in the UN recognition of the Armenian Genocide in 1985. He has a Master’s degree in International Affairs from Columbia University (NY) and an MBA from Pepperdine University. His book, “The Armenian Genocide: The World Speaks Out, 1915-2005, Documents and Declarations,” published in 2005, was republished in Arabic translation in Lebanon in 2006. He has been awarded the “Anania Shiragatsi” medal of honor by the President of Armenia and has received numerous other awards for his leadership and community activities.

      Sassounian's popular weekly opinion column is widely printed across Armenian press. Published in California State of the USA. An Armenian activist and lobbyist.
      What's your point Crusader? You post articles endorsing the position that a true armenian is one that has a direct relationship with the country - i.e. living within its borders - and then you wish Mr. Sassounian happy birthday. He is as equally an Armenian demagogue as Mr. Baliozian and he is an Armenian activist within the diaspora.

      Mr. Sassounian's endeavors and accomplishments for Armenia outside of the country are further evidence that without the diaspora, Armenia and NKR would be further isolated from the world and in disrepair economically and with regard to their respective infrastructures.

      However, as an activist or leader, Mr. Sassounian's true impact is marginal as he has an inability to motivate the masses to 'true' action - e.g. peaceful protest : for example, protests on the street in favor of genocide recognition - in LA, the grassroots organizations cannot get more than a couple thousand on the streets despite approximately 350,000 Armenians in the general population - or drum up meaningful public opinion in mainstream media.

      Moreover, he lacks an appreciation of the players on the other side of the field who place obstacles in front of the hai tahd within the American political arena.

      As for being a contributor to Armenian periodicals, anyone can write an opinion piece in Armenian and other publications. Woohoo. Soon, someone shall replace him as the flavor of the month.

      You insult Armenian diasporans and then salute a voice within it. You are either confused or ignorant. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but you are still nothing more than a domesticated cow.
      Last edited by freakyfreaky; 02-06-2008, 03:21 PM.
      Between childhood, boyhood,
      adolescence
      & manhood (maturity) there
      should be sharp lines drawn w/
      Tests, deaths, feats, rites
      stories, songs & judgements

      - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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      • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

        Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
        ...you are still nothing more than a domesticated cow.
        Are there such things as wild cows?

        ...you are a not bright.

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        • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

          Once again, you are unable to respond to a rebuttal of one of your senseless, knee-jerk posts.

          Umm, you are definitely not a buffalo, ox or yak. But, you are certainly full of bullshiat.
          Between childhood, boyhood,
          adolescence
          & manhood (maturity) there
          should be sharp lines drawn w/
          Tests, deaths, feats, rites
          stories, songs & judgements

          - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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          • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

            Originally posted by TomServo View Post
            An exchange between writers Ara Baliozian and Harut Sassounian.
            I have read Mr. Sassounian's work for the past 15-20 years and in my opinion, he is an exemplary Armenian, he is one of the most politically mature and balanced public figures we have in the diaspora as well. Too bad Mr. Sassounian had to waste his time debating a mentally retarded egomaniac within a Turkish website. What an embarrassment...
            Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

            Նժդեհ


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            • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

              Atleast, unlike some of his detractors here, Mr. Sassounian had the respect and common sense to recognize Mr. Baliozian as an Armenian literary figure.

              At each step his detractors here prove his point without even putting Ara's proverbial feet to the fire.
              Between childhood, boyhood,
              adolescence
              & manhood (maturity) there
              should be sharp lines drawn w/
              Tests, deaths, feats, rites
              stories, songs & judgements

              - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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              • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

                Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
                Once again, you are unable to respond to a rebuttal of one of your senseless, knee-jerk posts.

                Umm, you are definitely not a buffalo, ox or yak. But, you are certainly full of bullshiat.
                ...and once again you are a dumbfcuk...your post is not "senseless" and "knee jerk"?...do you see the irony, the hypocrisy?

                Anyway, since you are a dumbfcuk, I suggest you let someone do your thinking for you. Preferably someone who is not a mental midget (like Ara B).

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                • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

                  There is no hypocrisy or irony here, but only coincidence, the coincidence that beyond your ad hominem attacks there is nothing but dead air.

                  You did it to Ara. You did it to me.

                  At every opportunity I gave you to counter intelligently to rebut information that I provided to my premises, you proferred only and reverted immediately to meaningless personal attacks. And, even in insulting someone the same could be done intelligently.

                  But, you lack the skills to insult someone without them recognizing it. I encourage you to debate with Ara and fellow humans meaningfully; at the very least, perhaps, it shall assist you in improving your presentation.

                  Du shat dadark es.
                  Last edited by freakyfreaky; 02-06-2008, 05:39 PM.
                  Between childhood, boyhood,
                  adolescence
                  & manhood (maturity) there
                  should be sharp lines drawn w/
                  Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                  stories, songs & judgements

                  - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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                  • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

                    Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
                    There is no hypocrisy or irony here, but only coincidence, the coincidence that beyond your ad hominem attacks there is nothing but dead air.

                    You did it to Ara. You did it to me.

                    At every opportunity I gave you to counter intelligently to rebut information that I provided to my premises, you proferred only and reverted immediately to meaningless personal attacks. And, even in insulting someone the same could be done intelligently.

                    But, you lack the skills to insult someone without them recognizing it. I encourage you to debate with Ara and fellow humans meaningfully; at the very least, perhaps, it shall assist you in improving your presentation.

                    Du shat dadark es.

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                    • Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

                      Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
                      Du shat dadark es.
                      A famous Anonymouse quote, "I am going to chemy in here" and just make a few points. You calling Crusader "dadark" is like the teapot calling the kettle black, I would suggest you make sure, again, who you attack and "make an example of". Furthermore, if Crusader is "dadark", what the hell is Ara then? "Metza Mitk"? So, let me get this straight, Ara, with all his rants and insults, living off Canadian welfare, and yapping across the Atlantic about the failures and flaws of his people is a "visionary", but Crusader, defending the fundimental drive of his people, making honest effort to move to Armenia, and defending values that, incidently, are the backbone of the a people is "dadark"? What kind of f'ed logic is this? It is very f'ed logic and I would recommend you keep your illogic to yourself, you are just making yourself look bad, it is getting annoying, all this to defend a man that has spent his entire life picking and disecting the very same values that contributed to his growth as a human being. I can only hope you change your ways and see the light, personally, the xxxx I see in real life and experience on the daily basis pales in comparision to these rants. I can tell you that in 50 years, we are all screwed, but then again, who is listening? What would it take for people to change? A hero? A war? Famine? Death? Disease? Who knows, but what I do know is that, again, max 50 years, if this trend continues that is. The only soldiers and "knights in shining armor" we have remaining is indeed Crusader, godspeed to him and his endeavors.
                      Last edited by Virgil; 02-07-2008, 06:12 PM.

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